Titles, Surname and Protocols for the Royal Family

[stef]

titlesI think there are two types of titles,The titles granted by the King, have no legal value .....The titles granted by law , dependent on the law but they have state value.

[snowflower]

You are talking in general or about Greece? Because I don't think that Greece grants titles to citizens, only medals. I think the only hororific title that Greece grants is to some ex ambassandors but I am not even sure about it.

[Vlaha Karatsokaros]

Stef is talking in general and her/his statement is correct. Insofar as Greece is concerned, its current Constitution prohibits the granting of Greek titles to any Greek or foreign citizen. Medals and decorations for valor are a different issue altogether.

[Vlaha Karatsokaros]

Originally Posted by Odette

The entire Royal family stays away from Greek political life and would never make any statements for or against any of the government officials.
Very wise of them. They never made any statements regarding political Greek life in the last 41 years.

They have no right anyway since they chose not to become Greek citizens. The very moment they became Hellenes, they would automatically have this privilege.

[Nikolopoulus]

He was born in Greece, he did not renounce his citizenship, his citizenship deleted by a law that denies that he was born in Greece.Was the law will of the King??????

[IRIS1983]

Originally Posted by Vlaha Karatsokaros

They have no right anyway since they chose not to become Greek citizens. The very moment they became Hellenes, they would automatically have this privilege.

if they have Greek citizenship, they would have no privileges, unlike, the Queen Ana Maria would have no title of Princess of Denmark.

[Odette]

Originally Posted by Vlaha Karatsokaros

They have no right anyway since they chose not to become Greek citizens. The very moment they became Hellenes, they would automatically have this privilege.

Nowdays, we gave the right to everyone to criticise or advise us.
The King has reigned in Greece and as such he has every right to express his opinions. Some may not want to hear what he has to say, however he still retains the right to speak his mind.

[IRIS1983]

hahahah!!!!!
You confuse me..
It is normal that a person was born in Greece is more close to the problems of his country.

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by Vlaha Karatsokaros

They have no right anyway since they chose not to become Greek citizens. The very moment they became Hellenes, they would automatically have this privilege.

He has every right if he wishes to comment on the state of the government. He was once King.

Originally Posted by IRIS1983

if they have Greek citizenship, they would have no privileges, unlike, the Queen Ana Maria would have no title of Princess of Denmark.

If they were married in Greece, surely she had Greek citizenship.
King Constantine was born there, he must have citzenship.

[IRIS1983]

The Queen Anne Marie has not passport of Greece, the law of 1994 affect her.

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by IRIS1983

The Queen Anne Marie has not passport of Greece, the law of 1994 affect her.

How do you know this?
If she married in Greece, she lived in Greece for a period of time, she married the Greek King, she must have citizenship.

[IRIS1983]

there is a group in facebook monarchical, serious, which was published this law translated.
I think one of the members of this group is at this forum, because this person has made reference to it.

[Lumutqueen]

Okay a facebook group doesn't prove anything, frankly I don't think anyone knows that she has or hasn't got a passport.

[IRIS1983]

You do not understand, I've told that person, published a Greek law of 1994 or 1993, translated into English, then other people commented that law and it eliminated the passport to all members of the Greek royal family, including Anne Marie and their children.I have read a interview in a mgazine of Spain, in where constantine speak about this law, and he said that it was validity in Greece

[Lumutqueen]

Okay. But she still must be a citizen of Greece, as I said before, she married the Ex- Greek King, she lived there, she married there. They have to both be citizens.

[GRspecialforces]

Originally Posted by lumutqueen

Okay. But she still must be a citizen of Greece, as I said before, she married the Ex- Greek King, she lived there, she married there. They have to both be citizens.

no she isn't and no one is from this family. the goverment told them to pick a surname if they want passports and citizenship and they didn't accept. some people must understand the difference between democratic countries and countries with royal houses(even if they are democratic too). we are all equal here and we must follow the same rules and laws. we all have surnames and titles are not allowed. constantine should respect this, if he loves greece.

greetings,
gregory

[IRIS1983]

Ok, must be Greek, I agree with you, that they eliminate the law that took away their passports

[BELTRANEJA]

Originally Posted by GRspecialforces

no she isn't and no one is from this family. the goverment told them to pick a surname if they want passports and citizenship and they didn't accept.

I do not agree with you , Constantino has accepted this, in Hola! magazine interview, he said he respected the law, he has a Danish passport with surname accepted in Denmark and the European citizen. He respects the law .The Princess Irene has a Danish passport.
IRIS83 , you could put the law translated here.

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by GRspecialforces

no she isn't and no one is from this family.

But shouldn't they both at some point of had Greek Citizenship, they married there, they lived there.

[Kastalia]

^I'm sure that he had Greek citizenship.I mean,he was born in Athens at Psyhiko district and he was raised here in Athens.But as grspecialforces said when he was asked to chose a surname he refused instead he continued to use the title ''King''.That move was concidered to be an anti-Greek action and although he kept his role as honorary member of International Olympic Comittee and that he is the Co-President of Honour of the International Sailing Federation he was teased by the media who ironically called him ''degretsias'' (instead of De Grecia) and Kokos which is very underestimating.