Princely Family current events 3: May 2007-

[Iain]

Originally Posted by Alisa

It's a rather sexist attitude to equate male rulership with stability. I suppose he thinks Queen Beatrix, Queen Margrethe, and Queen Elizabeth(the longest reigning monarch in history) has brought instability to their kingdoms and realms.

Queen Elizabeth was not the longest reigning monarch in history. That is King Sobhuza II of Eswatini who was monarch for 82 years and 254 days, When monarchs of non soveriegn countries are taken into account there are actually 24 monrchs who have reigned longer than Queen Elizabeth,

[Iain]

Originally Posted by SirGyamfi1

It would change because the name of the dynasty would change and as I stated they are a Holy Roman Empire Princely family, regardless of whether or not with the fact that we all know that the Holy Roman Empire does not exist, the point is that these types of families won’t change their structures to accommodate change of leadership in the family and they have a traditional outlook on what constitutes a Princely family. He’s probably had to defend his view on the succession because a certain rights movement criticized it some years ago and when I say no one, I mean the majority of citizens there aren’t overly worried about it. I have looked up, but I see little that questions the succession

There is no reason why the name should change. Normally when a female monarch marries a Prince the next generation would take the name of Prince's family but in the Netherland's Queens Wilhelmina and Juliana both married Princes but the dynasty name remained Oranje. Same in the UK. Prince Philip was a Prince in his own right but the dynasty has remained Windsor.

[SirGyamfi1]

Originally Posted by Iain

There is no reason why the name should change. Normally when a female monarch marries a Prince the next generation would take the name of Prince's family but in the Netherland's Queens Wilhelmina and Juliana both married Princes but the dynasty name remained Oranje. Same in the UK. Prince Philip was a Prince in his own right but the dynasty has remained Windsor.

The Princely family of Liechtenstein is not the same as the Royal families of the Netherlands or the U.K. It is a Princely family. Not all dynasties operate the same way.

[Tatiana Maria]

Iain's point was equally valid for princely families.

[SirGyamfi1]

Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria

Iain's point was equally valid for princely families.

Name a ruling Princely family other the Grimaldi's whose throne passed through other families via marriage due to co-agnatic primogeniture but have retained the names of the previous dynasty?

[SirGyamfi1]

Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria

Iain's point was equally valid for princely families.

My point is that not all Royal/ Princely families operate in that way. It is down to respective House laws, constitutions, legal bills etc.

[Tatiana Maria]

Originally Posted by SirGyamfi1

My point is that not all Royal/ Princely families operate in that way. It is down to respective House laws, constitutions, legal bills etc.

The discussion between you and Iain concerned what would or should happen if Liechtenstein were to amend its house law to allow female succession to the headship. The current house law only permits men to rule.

Originally Posted by SirGyamfi1

Name a ruling Princely family other the Grimaldi's whose throne passed through other families via marriage due to co-agnatic primogeniture but have retained the names of the previous dynasty?

Not sure how your comment relates to this scenario ... clearly, in today's circumstances no sovereign throne would be allowed to pass to another family via marriage. In the unlikely event that a hypothetical heiress to the Liechtenstein throne married an heir to another throne, one of them would be pressured into renouncing their position.

The Monegasque throne did not pass through other families, but they are the only other reigning princely family in Europe, and their female heads and heiresses all retained the Grimaldi name and transmitted it to their children.

And per your comment, not all princely families operate in the same way, so even if, hypothetically, all other ruling princesses in foreign families had given up their names, that would not be binding on the hypothetical ruling princess of Liechtenstein.

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