Prince Wenzeslaus (1974- ), son of Prince Philipp Erasmus - Page 2

suturegeisha · #21 08-23-2006, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Next Star

I wonder how a prince and a heir to a throne manages not to be seen by the public?

He's not the heir to the throne, actually. He is the second son of Prince Philip of Liechtenstein, who is the younger brother of the current reigning prince Hans-Adam.
So...while Prince Wenzeslaus is in line for the throne, he's not the heir. Prince Alois, the eldest son of Prince Hans-Adam, is the heir.

Personally, I think that the media is just not as interested in the Princely family of Liechtenstein, probably due to the country's size. Also, Wenzeslaus, as well as his brothers Prince Rudolf and Prince Alexander, seem to be very low-profile- it's rare to see photos of them at all.

HRH Kerry · #22 08-24-2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by suturegeisha

... Also, Wenzeslaus, as well as his brothers Prince Rudolf and Prince Alexander, seem to be very low-profile- it's rare to see photos of them at all.

Unless Wence's model girlfriend is making a spectacle of herself in public.

Next Star · #23 08-24-2006, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by suturegeisha

He's not the heir to the throne, actually. He is the second son of Prince Philip of Liechtenstein, who is the younger brother of the current reigning prince Hans-Adam.
So...while Prince Wenzeslaus is in line for the throne, he's not the heir. Prince Alois, the eldest son of Prince Hans-Adam, is the heir.

Personally, I think that the media is just not as interested in the Princely family of Liechtenstein, probably due to the country's size. Also, Wenzeslaus, as well as his brothers Prince Rudolf and Prince Alexander, seem to be very low-profile- it's rare to see photos of them at all.

He is still a heir to the throne I know he is not first when say the heir to the throne then your saying that the person is first in line to the throne you read my quote wrong.Forget about size of the country were talking about a prince I bet if someday he were to wed a famous woman like the one he is dating Paparazzi would over that country.

Next Star · #24 08-24-2006, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by suturegeisha

He's not the heir to the throne, actually. He is the second son of Prince Philip of Liechtenstein, who is the younger brother of the current reigning prince Hans-Adam.
So...while Prince Wenzeslaus is in line for the throne, he's not the heir. Prince Alois, the eldest son of Prince Hans-Adam, is the heir.

Personally, I think that the media is just not as interested in the Princely family of Liechtenstein, probably due to the country's size. Also, Wenzeslaus, as well as his brothers Prince Rudolf and Prince Alexander, seem to be very low-profile- it's rare to see photos of them at all.

You read my quote wrong I did not say he is the heir to the throne meaning that person is first in line to the throne. I was trying that he is still in line to the throne which makes a heir to the throne. I know the soverign Prince's son is the heir to the throne. meanig his first. Forget about the size of the country if were to pick a famous woman to become bride I bet paparazzi would be all over that country.Then he would become famous.

Warren · #25 08-24-2006, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Next Star

You read my quote wrong I did not say he is the heir to the throne meaning that person is first in line to the throne. I was trying that he is still in line to the throne which makes a heir to the throne. I know the soverign Prince's son is the heir to the throne. meanig his first.

To avoid such misunderstanding it would help if you used the correct terminology.

The term "heir to the throne" is understood by most people who know anything about Royal matters to be THE heir to the throne.

If you are referring to others with succession rights, the usual expression is "in the line of succession".

Rather than accusing others of misreading your quote it would be better if the facts were presented correctly in the first place.

Next Star · #26 08-24-2006, 11:28 PM

First of all they should what talking this website is called The Royal Forums everyone should royalty period.

Jo of Palatine · #27 08-25-2006, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Next Star

First of all they should what talking this website is called The Royal Forums everyone should royalty period.

I beg your Pardon?

Next Star · #28 08-25-2006, 05:18 AM

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First of all they should what I am talking this website is called The Royal Forums everyone should about royalty period.

A person in line to a throne is called a heir rather they are first or last when you say the heir to the throne it means the person is first. A heir to the throne can be second or beyond you don't hear a person say a heir in the line of succession you hear what spot they are in for example Prince Wenzeslaus is the 11th heir to the throne why? you use the line of successsion that is too much stuff to write I am tried for people reading my qotes wrong I know what the difference is .

Warren · #29 08-25-2006, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Next Star

A person in line to a throne is called a heir rather they are first or last when you say the heir to the throne it means the person is first. A heir to the throne can be second or beyond

Sorry, but you are wrong again Next Star. As already explained the term "heir to the throne" is used by those with even a basic knowledge of the subject of Royalty to mean THE heir to the throne. Nothing else. Wikipedia has HSH Princess Marie Louise of Schaumburg-Lippe holding 893rd place in line of succession to the British throne. By no stretch of the imagination would anyone describe her as an "heiress" to the throne.
It would appear you believe that everyone is out of step on the meaning of this term except yourself.

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Originally Posted by Next Star

you don't hear a person say a heir in the line of succession you hear what spot they are in for example Prince Wenzeslaus is the 11th heir to the throne why?

No, people who know the subject of Royalty will say, for example, "Prince Wenzeslaus is 11th in line of succession to the throne".

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Originally Posted by Next Star

you use the line of successsion that is too much stuff to write

For the sake of accuracy it is best to use the correct terms, even if that is "too much stuff to write." Made-up and incorrect shorthand serves only to confuse the issue and gives the impression you are not the "Royal Scholar" you have claimed so many times to be.

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Originally Posted by Next Star

I am tried for people reading my qotes wrong I know what the difference is .

I would suggest the reason that you feel so many people are "reading my quotes wrong" is because you are getting it wrong, not them.

Next Star · #30 08-25-2006, 03:59 PM

I say that he is a heir because that is what he is I don't say what others what me to say I never heared a person ever say that a heir beyond second is line of succession I always heared that spot they hold in the line and you can be a heir and not first now let's talk about the prince because I am tried about the line of succession.

Next Star · #31 08-25-2006, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Next Star

I say that he is a heir because that is what he is I don't say what others what me to say I never heared a person ever say that a heir beyond second is line of succession I always heared that spot they hold in the line and you can be a heir and not first now let's talk about the prince because I am tried about the line of succession.

There is no correct term to that your saying show me some proof than than I will agree but for I don't. And by the way actionms speak louder than words.

Jo of Palatine · #32 08-25-2006, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Next Star

There is no correct term to that your saying show me some proof than than I will agree but for I don't. And by the way actionms speak louder than words.

Most of the time I simply don't get what you want to say´. But nevertheless - if you insist, you might call the first in line "principal heir" and all the others "substitutional heir" Nr. 2 to 3000.... Even though I'm a lawyer and these words are legal expressions, I'll stick to "heir to the throne" and "2nd to 3000st in line of succession." But chacun à son gout.

Next Star · #33 08-25-2006, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Next Star

There is no correct term to that your saying show me some proof than than I will agree but for I don't. And by the way actions speak louder than words.

I was trying to say that is still a heir but is his not first in line to he throne he is 11th in line to the throne and don't have to be first to be a heir to be first that's just my opinion.

HRH Kerry · #34 08-25-2006, 05:45 PM

Link to the definition of an heir which has a singular meaning:

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/heir

Same sight with the definition of succession:

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/succession

Also, there's also Wikipedia's definitions of "heir" from heir-apparent and line of succession. There is a difference but don't take my word for it, look it up.

Alexandria · #35 08-25-2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Next Star

I was trying to say that is still a heir but is his not first in line to he throne he is 11th in line to the throne and don't have to be first to be a heir to be first that's just my opinion.

I don't think that this is necessarily a matter of opinon, but a matter of common terminology and respect for the other 19,999 members of this forum.

If in your personal life you refer to someone who is 11th in line to the throne as the "heir to the throne" that is fine. But when you come to a place where 99.9% of the membership refers to the heir to the throne as the person to immediately succeed the current monarchy, then I think you need to follow suit. You can't try to throw in your own terminology to try and confuse everyone else or insist that it's your right to call it that. That's disrespectful to everyone else here who have been members for a longer time than you.

Consider how many posts have been devoted to clarify the term for one member. Everybody else seemd to understand each other before you came along. You're free to continue posting of course, but I think some respect for other members is required, too.

Next Star · #36 08-25-2006, 08:23 PM

Okay he is not a heir to the throne but he is included in the line of succession.I will say he is 11th in line to the throne or 11th in line of the throne rather saying succession. I know what succession means it is when go by what place a person is in the line of succession. I am not trying confuse anyone but I am sorry if I did I admit that I was wrong and can move and talk about about the prince please. Thank You.

Next Star · #37 08-25-2006, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Next Star

I say that he is a heir because that is what he is I don't say what others what me to say I never heared a person ever say that a heir beyond second is line of succession I always heared that spot they hold in the line and you can be a heir and not first now let's talk about the prince because I am tried about the line of succession.

I said somewhat a royal scholar which means I know a liitle bit about about royalty and not as much as others.

Alexandria · #38 08-25-2006, 08:37 PM

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I said somewhat a royal scholar which means I know a liitle bit about about royalty and not as much as others.

Where did you study royalty Next Star?

I think everyone here fancies themselves a little bit of a "royal scholar."

I know that if you put me up against my friends I'd definitely win hands down in a trivia contest about royals.

I think the more humble thing to do here is not to promote yourself as a royal scholar everywhere because inevitably someone else knows more than you. I have been a member of this forum for more than three years and everyday I learn something new about a royal figure or a moment in royal history. Our members have immense knowledge if we just really read what they are writing rather than just trying to prove our own superiority or vast knowledge over others we can all learn from each other.

mybags · #39 08-25-2006, 08:54 PM

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Where did you study royalty Next Star?

I think everyone here fancies themselves a little bit of a "royal scholar."

I know that if you put me up against my friends I'd definitely win hands down in a trivia contest about royals.

Me too, Alexandria.

Next Star · #40 08-25-2006, 09:02 PM

My freinds do not know anything about I too wo uld win a royal trivia contest and I did I took one on the E! website they asked questions about royals hard to believe I passed their questions were too easy. I did not study it in school I was not into royalty until three years ago. I admit I should not say that anymore being that somewhat new to this thanks for trying to understand but I feel people still my quotes wrong.