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10-21-2019, 01:03 PM
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I note the absence of Charlene of Monaco.
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10-21-2019, 01:06 PM
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I note the absence of Charlene of Monaco.
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Hardly surprising or unexpected though.
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Will there be any LIVE coverage of the enthronement? If so, what are the links?
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I believe there will be , but the time zone won’t help for those who want to see it live in the Americas.
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10-21-2019, 01:10 PM
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The President of Finland and First Lady Jenni Haukio will attend the ceremony and banquet.
https://www.presidentti.fi/en/press-...apan-in-tokyo/
And probably the President and First Lady of Iceland as well, as they're in Tokyo at the moment.
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10-21-2019, 01:10 PM
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Imperial Majesty
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Hardly surprising or unexpected though.
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Fair point.
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10-21-2019, 04:36 PM
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Aren´t there any "pre-enthronement-engagements" like they did back in 1990, like the Garden party?
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10-21-2019, 04:44 PM
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Heir Apparent
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Will anyone from Liechtenstein be present at the enthronement?
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10-21-2019, 04:45 PM
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Aren´t there any "pre-enthronement-engagements" like they did back in 1990, like the Garden party?
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I think the garden party is the day after and then the PM's banquet that evening.
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10-21-2019, 04:51 PM
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I note the absence of Charlene of Monaco.
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Yet another solo visit for the Prince of Monaco but its not a surprise any more,rather the opposite.
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10-21-2019, 08:04 PM
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Heir Apparent
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Yes, he is! Why do you think he isn't? He is fully qualified to fly this airplane. He received additional training when they switched from the former PBX (a Fokker F28-1000) to this GOV (Boeing 737-700).
You might be interested in this Guardian article.
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10-21-2019, 08:19 PM
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Japan’s Empress Masako arrives at the Imperial Palace on the day Emperor Naruhito is formally enthroned, in Tokyo, Japan October 22, 2019. REUTERS/Edgar Su
https://tamerexpress.com/2019/10/21/...cient-ceremony
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10-21-2019, 09:39 PM
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It's starting! I am so looking forward to this.
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10-21-2019, 11:26 PM
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Heir Apparent
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10-21-2019, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Blog Real
Will anyone from Liechtenstein be present at the enthronement?
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According to the confirmed guest lists, there's no representative from Liechtenstein.
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10-21-2019, 11:45 PM
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Has a full guest list been published? I haven't seen anything about Brunei, Morocco, Thailand, etc.
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I don't know about the full guest list, but the "Bad weather" article in post 229 lists the major foreign dignitaries.
The following is the lineup of major foreign dignitaries by region who are expected to attend Emperor Naruhito's enthronement ceremony on Tuesday, based on a list provided by the Japanese government. More than 170 countries and international organizations will send representatives to the event.
Asia
-- Bhutan
King Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck
-- Cambodia
King Norodom Sihamoni
-- China
Vice President Wang Qishan
-- India
President Ram Nath Kovind
-- Malaysia
King Abdullah
-- Myanmar
State Counsellor Aung San Suu Kyi
-- Philippines
President Rodrigo Duterte
-- Singapore
President Halimah Yacob
-- South Korea
Prime Minister Lee Nak Yon
-- Thailand
Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha
-- Vietnam
Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc
Oceania
-- Australia
Governor-General David Hurley
-- New Zealand
Governor-General Patsy Reddy
-- Tonga
King Tupou VI
North America
-- Canada
Chief Justice Richard Wagner
-- United States of America
Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao
South America
-- Argentina
Vice President Gabriela Michetti
-- Brazil
President Jair Messias Bolsonaro
-- Chile
Former President Eduardo Frei Ruiz-Tagle
-- Colombia
Minister of Foreign Affairs Carlos Holmes Trujillo
-- Paraguay
Vice President Hugo Velazquez Moreno
-- Peru
Minister of Culture Francisco Enrique Hugo Petrozzi Franco
-- Uruguay
Minister of Foreign Affairs Rodolfo Nin Novoa
Europe
-- Austria
President Alexander Van der Bellen
-- Belgium
King Philippe
-- Denmark
Crown Prince Frederik
-- Finland
President Sauli Niinisto
-- France
Former President Nicolas Sarkozy
-- Germany
President Frank-Walter Steinmeier
-- Hungary
President Ader Janos
-- Luxembourg
Grand Duke Henri
-- Monaco
Prince Albert II
-- Netherlands
King Willem-Alexander
-- Norway
Crown Prince Haakon
-- Russia
Deputy Speaker of the Federation Council Iliyas Umakhanov
-- Spain
King Felipe VI
-- Sweden
King Carl XVI Gustaf
-- Britain
Prince Charles
-- Vatican
Cardinal Francesco Monterisi
Middle East
-- Afghanistan
President Ashraf Ghani
-- Bahrain
Crown Prince Salman
Africa
-- Democratic Republic of the Congo
President Felix Tshisekedi
-- Egypt
Minister of Antiquities Khaled El Anany
-- Kenya
President Uhuru Kenyatta
-- South Africa
Deputy Minister of International Relations and Cooperation Candith Mashego-Dlamini
-- Zimbabwe
Former Minister of Foreign Affairs Simbarashe Mumbengegwi
International Organizations, others
-- United Nations
Chef de Cabinet, Executive Office of the Secretary-General Maria Luiza Ribeiro Viotti
-- European Union
High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, Vice-President of the European Commission Federica Mogherini
-- Palestine
President Mahmoud Abbas
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10-22-2019, 12:00 AM
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I wonder when this list was created. Crown Prince Hussein of Jordan isn't on the list and he is in Japan as the Jordanian representative.
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10-22-2019, 12:13 AM
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Thank you for your months of first-rate reporting on the abdication and accession ceremonies. Thanks to your posts I've come to a significantly deeper understanding of these events.
I second your and Ista's recommendations of the Nippon.com articles, which I found to be short, informative reads.
One point from the first article which puzzles me is why a Prime Minister hailing the Emperor in the hall of state, wearing a tailcoat, is considered less politically charged in postwar Japan than a Prime Minister hailing the Emperor in the courtyard, wearing Heian-period attire.
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Program of ceremonies for foreign guests (English PDF file) - includes diagrams, dress code, etc.
Japanese version is more lengthy...
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The Emperor and Empress' entrance will be restored to pre-Showa era style as used at Kyoto Imperial Palace. They will enter from the rear of the Matsu-no-Ma state room and ascend the Takamikura and Michodai thrones. In the Heisei era, Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko walked around and into the Matsu-no-Ma.
See comparison: solid lines are the new/restored plan and the dotted line were the Heisei era entrance
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Originally Posted by Prisma
Jiji reports 30 42-200 inch monitors will be installed for guests to watch the ceremony as they will be seated in Homei-den (State Banquet Hall) or hallways. Due to the possibility of bad weather, a temporary stage will not be setup for guests in the courtyard like last time.
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I like the change to the Emperor and Empress's entrance, and a return to tradition is always an interesting choice. I wonder if the reason Akihito and Michiko entered from the front, with all that turning of corners, was so that the guests below could see them processing as they entered and left the State Room? If so, guests certainly were getting quite a distant view, so I'm not sure it was necessarily more inclusive. Was there any discussion of the reasons for both changes?
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Only speculating, but perhaps the return to the traditional shorter walk was a concession to the Empress's health?
Apparently the guest seating was a cost-reduction measure.
Bumper guest list sees enthronement-related bill rise 30%
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Enthronement events for Emperor Naruhito are expected to cost 16.3 billion yen ($152 million), up 30 percent from former Emperor Akihito's accession, due mainly to an increase in the number of guests.
With dignitaries from more than 190 nations and international organizations expected to attend the main ceremony celebrating Tuesday's enthronement -- up from 160 represented at the previous rite in November 1990 -- the accommodation bill will be 4.1 billion yen more, according to the government.
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One cost-reduction measure saw the government decide against following the precedent of erecting a stage in the courtyard of the Imperial Palace for the enthronement ceremony, saving some 300 million yen.
The government also trimmed 80 million yen from the budget for banquets to be held for attendees of the ceremony -- compared with 1990 -- by reducing the number of invites and events.
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Security expenses, including police vehicles and equipment, have been cut 1.5 billion yen from the previous accession to 3.8 billion yen, as equipment purchased for hosting the Group of Seven summit in Mie Prefecture in 2016 will be utilized.
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It will be interesting to see the effect of seating the guests indoors before monitors rather than positioning them in the courtyard as observers. No doubt the new arrangements will create greater visibility for the guests and secure the event against the potential of bad weather, but the ambience might be less traditional.
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The government is accelerating preparations to accept more guests at the enthronement ceremonies in October.
Emperor Akihito's enthronement on November 12, 1990:
- Representatives from 165 countries and international organizations
- 474 foreign attendees including ambassadors living in Japan
- Prime Minister hosted dinner for 607 guests
Estimates for Emperor Naruhito's enthronement:
- Representatives from 195+ countries and international organizations
- 600+ foreign attendees
- Prime Minister will host dinner for 800+ guests
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs sent invitations to 194 countries, the United Nations, and the European Union. More than half have responded.
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I wonder what factored into the growth in the number of foreign attendees. Is it simply dependent on the number of countries in existence in 2019 compared to 1990?
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Most of it is associated with Japan’s state religion. I don’t see it changing as it is an integral part of their ancient culture.
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Japan no longer has a state religion and the separation of religion and the state is an imperative under the 1947 Constitution. As a result, the state funding of the upcoming Daijosai rite, which is perceived as a religious ceremony, has come under question (even from the Crown Prince).
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10-22-2019, 12:43 AM
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Former princesses Noriko Senge and Sayako Kuroda arrive for the enthronement. Noriko's wearing a tiara!
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The tiara is certainly a surprise. It looks as though it might be her Hokusai wave tiara? Hard to tell.
Edited to add: Definitely not the Hokusai wave, it's much spikier.
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10-22-2019, 12:48 AM
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10-22-2019, 12:59 AM
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The imperial family members look stunning in court dress! The official live stream is of excellent quality.
Who was the official leading the procession?
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Originally Posted by Prisma
Former princesses Noriko Senge and Sayako Kuroda arrive for the enthronement. Noriko's wearing a tiara!
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Apart from the lack of an order, they look thoroughly royal! Does anyone know where they are being seated?
ETA: The official livestream is showing gorgeous close-ups of the decorations! I wish I had more understanding of the motifs on the platforms. According to the article in this post, birds are a royal motif as they were historically considered divine envoys, but what about the other animals painted on the base on the platform?
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10-22-2019, 01:11 AM
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Noriko's wearing her order
More relatives: former Mikasa princess Masako Sen and her husband Sōshitsu Sen XVI. She's wearing the Order of the Precious Crown and a bracelet as a tiara?
Yoshiki Kuroda (Sayako's husband) on the left
https://www.asahicom.jp/articles/ima...00817_comm.jpg
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