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Old 04-20-2018, 06:37 AM
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The next chapter is ready: Conqueror https://app.box.com/s/eckktttzzodqnukewlg050se37vbpz3p

This time about Frederik going on the Sirius Expedition in Greenland in 2000, and meeting, dating and eventually marrying Mary.

I hope I have made it more reader-friendly this time.

It's a long chapter! So I have summarized a few of the quotes that are not essential. And I have also "cut some corners" in many of the quotes, in order to make them easier to read and understand, while at the same time staying as true as possible to what was actually said, and how.

The scans, for verification, of the chapter will be uploaded in a day or two here: https://app.box.com/s/polat0w30qs9qdm1k46r6fz2ojvxdloi

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Thank you, Carlota.

I trust you will enjoy this chapter even more.


Wauh! Thank you So much. I have a lot to read this summer day
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Old 04-22-2018, 04:31 PM
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The next chapter is ready.

Academic.

This time about Frederik's time at Aarhus University and his happy year in USA, studying at Harvard and driving across USA.
But also the time where his public standing was at the absolute lowest point in his life. And how he recovered, or rather began to change the public perception of him.

It is of course impossible to translate expressions and sayings from Danish to English and still make sense. So I have cut a number of corners in an attempt to make the quotes more reader-friendly while still trying to stay as close as possible to the original words.

This chapter was easy, it had rhythm.

However, I have a little question for English speakers: In Danish there is a word that describes a full 24 hour day, from midnight to midnight. That word is a "døgn". What would be the best English translation for that word?

Anyway, read for yourselves here: Academic

Or read the original text here: https://app.box.com/s/o5clm1u209ac93fdptzpw177b23fp16m
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Old 04-22-2018, 04:32 PM
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Muhler, Did Crown Prince Frederik describe how he and Crown Princess Mary selected the names of each of their children?
Not in this book. And I don't recall having read anything about how and why they selected these names.

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Old 04-22-2018, 05:18 PM
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I can't decide on which chapter to take on next.

There is the chapter about the almost inhuman, but character building, trials during his time as frogman.

And there is the chapter about Frederik's relationship with his beloved mormor, Queen Ingrid. Frederik as the family man and Frederik the passionate music lover.
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Old 04-22-2018, 09:50 PM
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Hi Muhler!

I am really enjoying your translations - thank you! To attempt to answer your question about the word for all day, I can only think of an expression - ‘around the clock’ .
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Old 04-22-2018, 09:59 PM
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Thanks for the translation, Muhler.

My vote for next chapter would be on Frederik as a family man. It was between that and Frederik as passionate music lover.

Thanks again for translating!
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Old 04-22-2018, 10:46 PM
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The next chapter is ready.

Academic.

This time about Frederik's time at Aarhus University and his happy year in USA, studying at Harvard and driving across USA.
But also the time where his public standing was at the absolute lowest point in his life. And how he recovered, or rather began to change the public perception of him.

It is of course impossible to translate expressions and sayings from Danish to English and still make sense. So I have cut a number of corners in an attempt to make the quotes more reader-friendly while still trying to stay as close as possible to the original words.

This chapter was easy, it had rhythm.

However, I have a little question for English speakers: In Danish there is a word that describes a full 24 hour day, from midnight to midnight. That word is a "døgn". What would be the best English translation for that word?

Anyway, read for yourselves here: Academic

Or read the original text here: https://app.box.com/s/o5clm1u209ac93fdptzpw177b23fp16m
Muhler, your translation is wonderful, mange tak! Your question about the 24 hour day is a good one because it shows how important context is when translating. We have many words and expressions in English to describe the idea of day, so it depends what you mean! This is why google translate is still an imperfect tool, because it only translates literally and not with understanding the context of what needs to be said! I enjoyed reading the portrait of the Crown Prince at Aarhus; I also stayed there in a student house but only for two weeks as lodgings are very expensive! Luckily Prince Frederik could stay at his parents for freeI like how the Crown Prince wants to earn what comes to him rather than receiving favours for free; it is easy to get an honorary degree but a lot of sweat is needed to write a final paper, bravo
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Old 04-23-2018, 03:13 AM
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Thank you all of you.

Family man it is then. That's a nice little chapter about his mormor (and how Victoria remember her as well BTW), his family and love for music.
Stand by.

The word "døgn" is often a little tricky to translate. (It's a handy word, you ought to adopt it )

If an event lasts say five "døgn", you can only translate it with five days and nights, because it implies a non-stop event.

When using the word "døgn" simply as a term it means a 24 hour period, or a day and a night.

I asked because Frederik in the last chapter told about how he and Holger stayed for a "døgn" at the home of a family.
A day and a night. So it couldn't be translated accurately as a day, because that might be understood as only being there in the daylight hours. While translating it with "stayed the night", might be understood as only sleeping there. - So I hoped you might have a little handy word in English covering that.

I know it's a bit nerdy, but often it's the simple words that causes the most headache to translate correctly.
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Old 04-24-2018, 06:46 PM
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The next chapter is ready: Family Man.

It was a chapter I had fun translating.
About the very close relationship between Frederik and Queen Ingrid.
How M&F bring up their children, and how they don't always agree on how to do it.
How M&F allow each other room in their marriage.
And Frederik's deep passion for music.

I think you'll enjoy this chapter, it's a sitting-under-a-blanket-with-a-mug-of-hot-cocoa-in-your-hand chapter.

But read for yourselves here: Family Man
And the original text here: https://app.box.com/s/c3d11r62ceh4sbc24mgitfm2r51psnfx
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Old 04-24-2018, 07:39 PM
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This was a very beautiful chapter to read. Thank you Muhler.

Always nice to read them describing their family life and how they come together. Lovely!The last part was very sweet, how music affects him and is passing it on to his kids.
and this part was super sweet- "So we sat and listened to a lot of music and played tracks to each other. – She mostly to me – and talked about what she liked. Many of the tracks meant something to Mary I could tell, because she had been through a difficult period of her life after the death of her mother three years before. To Mary that had been a rude awakening in her life – who am I, and where am I going now? A period marked by deep grief, powerlessness and the feeling of not having done all you wanted with your mother. So we listened to a lot of Australian rock music, I remember, which also formed the basis for our love.”

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Old 04-25-2018, 06:06 PM
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Muhler, Did Crown Prince Frederik describe how he and Crown Princess Mary selected the names of each of their children?

I can actually answer your question now.
Read this post: http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ml#post2098282
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Old 04-25-2018, 09:36 PM
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Thanks for the translation, Muhler. I've very much enjoyed reading these chapters, especially the one where we finally learn about how Frederick met Mary and the details of their courtship, and her move to Denmark.

Mange tak!
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Did Frogman chapter ever get translated?

I just discovered the chapter-by-chapter translations of Under Bjælken -- thank you so much for doing this! I've downloaded five, but after scrolling through the posts a couple of times, I don't find a translation yet for Frogman. Did that ever get done? I would love to read it!
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