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So I see excerpts of Tina Brown's book are coming out. A lot of the stories I've heard from the book are pretty old.
The story about Diana being in love with the idea of a Prince rather than a real flesh and blood human being has been around for a long long time. From the time of her engagement, her schoolfellows talked about her infatuation with Charles and how she plastered posters of him on the wall at her finishing school in much the same way as young girls today would have posters of rock stars and movie stars.
If this is all the book is, its rather disappointing.
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06-11-2007, 01:44 PM
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Tina Brown is a skillful and sharp journalist. She does not seem to be biased because she does reveal the ways Charles and Camilla maintaining their affairs. It is my opion of course.
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she may be revealing the ways charles and camilla maintained their affairs but she isn't the first to do this. i've read other books that have revealed the friends and homes where they were able to meet discreetly, although to be honest i can't remember where i read them. i wonder if ms. brown is borrowing information from other sources or does she really have first hand information. at any rate, i think this book is going to be popular as it's been in the news a lot on this side of the atlantic.
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06-11-2007, 01:48 PM
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From this source in gfg02's post: Dodi 'just another lover' for Princess Diana | NEWS.com.au
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"Dodi was the perfect antidote," says Brown, "charming, sexually attentive, intellectually unthreatening and temporary."
Baroness Jay, who knew Diana well, told Brown: "We've all had our Dodi Fayeds."
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Ha! If only...
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06-11-2007, 05:10 PM
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'Diana,' the real and imagined
I just finished reading Tina Brown's new book, "The Diana Chronicles," and I think I'm going to the chiropractor now.
I read every whiplash chapter and came away rubbing my cervical vertebrae. This book is the closest I'll ever get to knowing Diana, the late Princess of Wales: a woman mesmerizing and charming one moment, manipulative and calculating the next … all affection and confiding phone calls one week, and the next, the coldest, best-dressed shoulder in England.
'Diana,' the real and imagined - THE SATURDAY READ - Los Angeles Times - calendarlive.com
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i wonder if ms. brown is borrowing information from other sources or does she really have first hand information.
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I've wondered the same thing.
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06-11-2007, 10:40 PM
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I've wondered the same thing.
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Since the book is intended as a biography and not a personal memoir, from what I've gathered is that, like most biographers, she has incorporated information from previous biographies and articles supplemented by her own addtional research.
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Well I understand that but I haven't heard too much of totally new revelations emanating from this book.
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Since the book is intended as a biography and not a personal memoir, from what I've gathered is that, like most biographers, she has incorporated information from previous biographies and articles supplemented by her own addtional research.
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06-12-2007, 05:06 AM
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Princess Di Was No Sweet Lamb, Tina Brown Bio Claims (Update1)
If you slapped an Edwardian-style picture hat on the head of Camilla Parker Bowles, you would be struck by her resemblance to Prince Charles's adored nanny,'' Tina Brown observes early on in ``The Diana Chronicles,'' her biography of the late Princess of Wales. This is a book from which no one emerges entirely unscathed
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06-12-2007, 05:39 AM
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how did you get the book so soon?
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06-12-2007, 05:57 AM
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Book reviewers get pre-publication copies, and it's available on Amazon (and probably elsewhere) now.
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I just ordered the book and will be receiving it in a few days;I am going to reserve judgment on it until I read it.I have read many books on Diana and the Royal Family and know that they are all too human;Diana had her good traits and her bad traits,just like Charles or anybody has good traits or bad traits. A competent biographer will be able to portray all aspects of a person and present without any bias so the reader can get as complete a picture as possible. I hope Tina Brown can accomplish this,but I'll just have to wait and read it for myself.
I've seen Penny Junor on several programs about Diana and the Royal Family;she has a pro-Charles slant so anything she writes would be a little negative. Diana suffered from mood-swings,a common occurrence with anorexia/bulimia patients;she was also under the stress of a floundering marriage which she so desperately wanted to work and she was very young and didn't know handle the situation well. But,I don't think Diana had any psychological disorder;she could be difficult which is an entirely different thing than being mentally unbalanced!
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Hiya All,
Just finished the book and maybe I'm missing something but I can not find a reference to Sir James Goldsmith as Diana's father.
It does refer to Frances's affair with Peter Shand Kydd after all her children were born.
I double checked the index at the back and pulled all Sir James pages and re-read the chapter on Diana's childhood and there is no mention of Sir James in this regard.
Also depending on where you are in the US the book has been out over a week. I picked it up at Target almost a week ago. Most stores stock new book titles on tuesdays.
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06-13-2007, 06:07 AM
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Just finished the book and maybe I'm missing something but I can not find a reference to Sir James Goldsmith as Diana's father.
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gfg02's post, which is a review of the book
Diana's half-sister Jemima? - Royal Watch
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06-13-2007, 02:42 PM
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When Diana was trying to woo Hasnat Khan,didn't she spend a lot of time with Jemima,who was married to a Pakistani cricket legend,Imran Khan?
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I don't think I agree with the Camillla's part about this book. She borrowed the conclusion from Patrick Jephson that "if Camilla backed off the marriage could be saved".Certainly Ms Brown should check up other books about Charles and Camilla.They are made for each other and they are destined to be together. Love can be against all odds.
Diana was a sad story but I don't think Diana can be ever the wife Charles always wanted. If both are suffered deeply in the marriage, I would rather they divource to pursuit their own happiness. Camilla issue won't disappear even she is not in the picture because she will be always in Charles' heart whatever happens.It always sounds cruel that locking Charles and Diana up in an unhappy and unloved marriage for ages. It's my opinion only.
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I've seen Penny Junor on several programs about Diana and the Royal Family;she has a pro-Charles slant so anything she writes would be a little negative. Diana suffered from mood-swings,a common occurrence with anorexia/bulimia patients;she was also under the stress of a floundering marriage which she so desperately wanted to work and she was very young and didn't know handle the situation well. But,I don't think Diana had any psychological disorder;she could be difficult which is an entirely different thing than being mentally unbalanced!
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Actually I thought Penny Junor was quite balanced. She hasn't been 100% approving of Charles or the royal family either so it seems she can criticize all the parties and not just Charles or Diana.
As far as Junor's assertion that Diana was mentally unbalanced, I think there are enough facts out there from which an objective person could draw the conclusion that Diana was mentally unbalanced.
Diana admitted herself that she suffered from bulimia, post-partum depression, and a tendency to inflict self-harm on herself. Given that she suffered from 3 distinct but different psychological problems, its not a stretch of the imagination for an author to come to the conclusion that she was mentally unbalanced. If you read literature on women who have just the tendency to inflict self-harm and not the others, they are often described as mentally unbalanced.
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06-13-2007, 07:17 PM
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I think the Princess of Wales was going through a mental breakdown during that time. She was heavily depressed over the breakdown of her marriage, buI believe by the time of her death she was no longer suffering from these diseases.
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