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Old 08-12-2020, 01:22 AM
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You mean outside the usual suspects?
Probably the authors' loved ones......but, they didn't write the book to get critical raves
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Old 08-12-2020, 01:24 AM
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Let me ask a question: is there anyone who has something positive to say about this book?
Well, you're willing to cherry pick instead of see the big picture, the peeing in the wood part, then the part where she carefully some shop (forget the name) and carefully picked shoes base on its price, can be some sort of proof that Meghan is not a diva.

Then their morning coffee ritual part and all details of their dates (and details of how Harry felt/feels about her) can indicate how in love they are and as a justification for their PDAs.

The part about how they don't want to have a live-in staff also shows about how they perceive their privacy (no intrusion, after all staffs are stangers who can leak any story to the press).

PS: I haven't read the book nor want to buy it, just read several screenshot/scanned/snaps of pages of the book circulating around in social media.
And I've read worse fanfictions than the aformentioned scanned pages above. But in term of "flowery" words, maybe they should pick Katie Nichole instead.

And maybe if Omid insists that the Sussexes have nothing to do with this book, then don't put that they interviewed them in the Author Notes (just forgo it or add another remarks that the said interviews were in capacity as reporter, not for book making as space to slither when necessary).
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Old 08-12-2020, 01:50 AM
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Let me ask a question: is there anyone who has something positive to say about this book?

Well I haven't read the book just the excerpts but the book was meant to make them look good. And it just doesn't. Maybe if they weren't a couple who loves to point their rich fingers at me and lecture me then retreat back into their life of luxury.
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Old 08-12-2020, 02:02 AM
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Unless I've missed something, I'm not recognising some of the references here to the "peeing in the woods" bit. This didn't happen when at the campsite with en suite facilities. It happened when they left the site for safaris (including camping out overnight) and according to a friend, Harry was "delightfully surprised by Meghan's down-to-earth attitude. While camping, she cleaned her face with baby wipes and happily wandered into the woodlands if she needed a bathroom break". There isn't anything else you can do on safari of course but it seems Harry was pleased she didn't make a fuss about it.

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* The Queen pulled Meghan aside and reprimanded her for the way she spoke to staff when testing the dishes for the up-coming wedding.
I don't think this is in the book at all. Where did you see it?
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Old 08-12-2020, 02:52 AM
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I really think the worst for Harry must have been the way his big function in the Army has been stripped.
As far as the book, is anyone remotely interested where she peed in Africa ?
Perhaps this is how posterity will remember her - the woman who peed in the forest! I hope it wasn't a habit when she was at home in Windsor Great Park!

On a serious note this book sounds like the worst kind of editorial trash in years about a royal. Agree they should sue is they didn't collaborate, and if they did they have some big questions to answer to Harry's family. The longer this goes on the more difficult to imagine them, or even Harry alone returning to full time duties as a member of the BRF.
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Old 08-12-2020, 03:16 AM
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[...] I really don't need to know that Meghan went behind a bush when there was no toilet available. Talk about too much information! Sounds like the author of this book's got an obsession with lavatorial-related matters .
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Old 08-12-2020, 03:18 AM
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I don't think this is in the book at all. Where did you see it?

I think you're right Lilyflo.

I think I saw it in amongst this stream of updates in "The Sun" -

https://www.the-sun.com/lifestyle/12...nding-freedom/


"The Independent" had a very good stream too, three pages, updating items as they read through the book last night -

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-a9663691.html

I'll remove it from my post up-thread if I stil have access to it.
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Old 08-12-2020, 03:19 AM
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Camilla Tominey reported that there is a note in the book that does state that the authors "when appropriate" spoke to the Sussexes. Have you come across that blurb yet?
Sorry Queen Claude, I don't have the book.
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Old 08-12-2020, 03:27 AM
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I used to be a Clooney fan, I mean over a decade long fan (and i’m not much younger than Harry) he has always guarded his privacy to the point he rarely speaks about his private life, only the odds bits and pieces.
There’s enough info there that he may feel his privacy violated, especially if he did not give permission.
why would he be bohtered about a story about them visiting if it was 2 years ago
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Old 08-12-2020, 03:39 AM
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He absolutely has the right to talk all he wants but Harry knows very well that none of the current working members of the BRF can respond to the claims in the book, even if they’re outright lies. He grew up in this family, he’s funded by the family and he continues to benefit greatly from being part of the family. He also left of his own free will for a life that was supposed to make him happier and more fulfilled.

So it seems pretty low for him to take shots at his brother and sister in law in such a public way, knowing they can’t defend themselves. It’s like punching someone who has his hands tied behind his back. It makes him look like a mean spirited bully.
no i was talking about his "Political " talk... I said that if he had come to believe in Meg's "lefty" viewpoint, he had a right to talk about it, if he has really left royal life...(though I think he'd be better to wait a bit, learn more and then if he wanted to talk about political issues, it might be a better time to do it.
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Old 08-12-2020, 03:52 AM
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Camilla Tominey reported that there is a note in the book that does state that the authors "when appropriate" spoke to the Sussexes. Have you come across that blurb yet?
It's in the Authors' Note towards the end and it refers to the range of sources they've spoken to as part of royal reporting, which I'm sure Ms Tominey is familiar with as a royal reporter herself. They speak with the royals on tours and visits 'when appropriate' and unless what is said is strictly off the record, presumably they can use it in any articles or books they write.
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Old 08-12-2020, 04:02 AM
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Perhaps this is how posterity will remember her - the woman who peed in the forest! I hope it wasn't a habit when she was at home in Windsor Great Park!

On a serious note this book sounds like the worst kind of editorial trash in years about a royal. Agree they should sue is they didn't collaborate, and if they did they have some big questions to answer to Harry's family. The longer this goes on the more difficult to imagine them, or even Harry alone returning to full time duties as a member of the BRF.
I dont think it will bother the 2 of them.. if the RF are willing to take them back. I think they'll just come home if they really feel they need to.. though I dont think it will sit well with Meghan. However when I saw her at the Commonwealth service, I really did get a vibe that although she was unhappy with her royal life, she was quite capable of stifling that, if the money making didn't work out and she and H had to turn back to Charles. mY initial feeling that she's fakey and insincere has doubled since the uproar happened.
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Old 08-12-2020, 04:03 AM
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If the Cambridges were part of the smear campaign they had it coming. Dad has been exposed in potentially another lie in regards to Archie. So far Daily Mail has not reported the Dad story, maybe because of the lawsuit, but you know they are checking out that chapter to see if there is anything in it that could help or hurt it's case. Trevor was brought up because the media dragged him in first and the tabloids claimed Meghan up and dumped her husband for no reason. Meghan and Harry stepped on the rake on the pregnancy announcement at Eugenie's wedding,. but she announced her congratulations to the Sussexes.

Again everyone messed up here.

https://etcanada.com/news/678302/fin...e-institution/


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In fact, Prince William comes across warmer that one would think from the past feuding brother headlines. While the two had their differences, William was welcoming to Meghan the first time they met.
“I was looking forward to meeting the girl who has put that silly grin on my brother’s face,” William said to Meghan the first time they met.
William was also a huge advocate for the couple when the Cambridges and Sussexes split households. It was Prince Charles who “controlled the purse strings” and seeing that William is heir, it was natural that additional funds for projects would go to him first.
Prince Charles wanted the split to be “cost neutral”, but aides told the authors “William fought to make sure that enough resources were allocated from the budget for the newly established Sussex household to have a proper working space and a suitable communications budget.”
Adding, “Over several weeks, William and his dedicated private secretary, Simon Case, attended meetings with senior Buckingham Palace aides to ensure that Harry and Meghan received the best deal possible.”
Doesn't sound like a smear campaign to me.
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Old 08-12-2020, 04:07 AM
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I doubt if William was all that sanguine about Meghan. He seems to have advised H to take it slow.. Harry didn't listen... and Im sure that there was a little tension over the feeling that William was a bit uneasy..
So I'd say Will approached Meghan warily hoping that she WAS indeed a nice woman who woudl continue to make his brother happy and that she'd be able to take on royal life, without too much strain.
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Old 08-12-2020, 04:09 AM
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Camilla Tominey reported that there is a note in the book that does state that the authors "when appropriate" spoke to the Sussexes. Have you come across that blurb yet?
From what I've seen in social media (screenshot of ebook or snapshot of hardprint), maybe she was referring to the Authors' Note.

Here's the link of a tweet with a screenshot one:
https://twitter.com/HallieParker__/s...984321/photo/1

I've seen lots of screenshots and snapshots of various pages circulating in twitter and IG (and maybe in few days someone will even put the ebook version somewhere to be downloaded for free by whoever who want it).
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Old 08-12-2020, 04:18 AM
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I dont think it will bother the 2 of them.. if the RF are willing to take them back. I think they'll just come home if they really feel they need to.. though I dont think it will sit well with Meghan. However when I saw her at the Commonwealth service, I really did get a vibe that although she was unhappy with her royal life, she was quite capable of stifling that, if the money making didn't work out and she and H had to turn back to Charles. mY initial feeling that she's fakey and insincere has doubled since the uproar happened.
If it comes to a return I can see The Queen or the PoW as King taking them back in. Charles is too afraid of being perceived as a bad father etc. etc. not to offer an olive branch. If the various reports are true of the bad blood between the Cambridges and Sussexes I don't think that the former have any trust in the latter to allow them back in with a public role.
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Old 08-12-2020, 04:25 AM
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If it comes to a return I can see The Queen or the PoW as King taking them back in. Charles is too afraid of being perceived as a bad father etc. etc. not to offer an olive branch. If the various reports are true of the bad blood between the Cambridges and Sussexes I don't think that the former have any trust in the latter to allow them back in with a public role.
I think that Charles will take them back because he loves Harry, not because he's afraid of being seen as a bad father.. but I HOPE he'll be wary of using H again on the working rota. I think that the Cambridge's are more wary of Harry and Especially of Meg.. I think that they DO think now, "she's bad news, she's not going to fit in or be a reliable working Duchess.. and she may walk out or say something stupid, or just cause trouble... again."
Charles - exactly how he wuld play it, I don't know.. He may feel that he NEEDS his 2 sons working.. and be prepared to give H another chance.. but personally I wouldn't. I would say "If they do fail at money makng and come back, make things very clear.. DONT use them for royal work, they are not reliable..."
ANd I'd be cautious how much money I allowed to them.
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Old 08-12-2020, 05:50 AM
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I am enjoying it while feeling increasing levels of bile. The digestion will suffer.

In seriousness. It is the end online her in the UK. I don't know it will play in America. I haven't heard anything that makes me think Harry will be affected yet. Apart form the damage already done. For instance my brother is a similar age to Harry, and while not overtly into the royals, always liked Harry. Thought he did good work, was brave. Admired him going to Irag or Afghanistan or whatever. He is just let down by him now an said he just walked away from his reapinsibilities. And I think that is it for people who grew up with him. We are all getting older and we have increasing responsibilities. And it is a mark of a green up to stick with them.

I don't know how this will play for her in America. But she is coming across a intolerable.
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Old 08-12-2020, 06:02 AM
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why would he be bohtered about a story about them visiting if it was 2 years ago
For the same reason Meghan is suing the MoS- his privacy being invaded.
Does it matter it happened two years ago? He let this woman into his home and in return she blabbed about it to friends and/or a reporter.

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I doubt if William was all that sanguine about Meghan. He seems to have advised H to take it slow.. Harry didn't listen... and Im sure that there was a little tension over the feeling that William was a bit uneasy..
So I'd say Will approached Meghan warily hoping that she WAS indeed a nice woman who woudl continue to make his brother happy and that she'd be able to take on royal life, without too much strain.
I think that “silly smile” line was probably before Harry spoke about them rushing into things, and William was meeting her for the first time, so he has yet had time to get to know her.

I’d imagine given the super private details about the Cambridge’s home, William may feel his privacy has been invaded too.
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Old 08-12-2020, 06:07 AM
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I am enjoying it while feeling increasing levels of bile. The digestion will suffer.

In seriousness. It is the end online her in the UK. I don't know it will play in America. I haven't heard anything that makes me think Harry will be affected yet. Apart form the damage already done. For instance my brother is a similar age to Harry, and while not overtly into the royals, always liked Harry. Thought he did good work, was brave. Admired him going to Irag or Afghanistan or whatever. He is just let down by him now an said he just walked away from his reapinsibilities. And I think that is it for people who grew up with him. We are all getting older and we have increasing responsibilities. And it is a mark of a green up to stick with them.

I don't know how this will play for her in America. But she is coming across a intolerable.
That’s that, isn’t it?
This is why people are turned off by them, they appear irresponsible, vapid.
This is why I think the majority of their fans right now are young teenager or college kids, when that demo will grow up and start having responsibilities and exprience life they will outgrow the Sussexes, and see them for what they are.
They will become disillusioned with them, happens to most of us.
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