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05-14-2015, 12:07 PM
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And what mind if someone wants to see them to eat? Who does not want as seen something else.
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05-14-2015, 02:17 PM
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I really like the picture on the SVT blog page - a princess in waiting with her prince by her side. Furthermore I'm pleased that their wedding coverage will be as broad as it was at Victoria and Daniel's wedding and if she also looks as beautiful as I hope she will - then I am a very happy camper.
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05-15-2015, 07:47 AM
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If Prince Carl Philip really had strippers on his stag party, then it declasses his circle of friends I must say. I can not imagine that the friends of the then Duke of Brabant, the then Prince of Orange or the then Prince of Asturias would have organized a stag party with "scantilly clad" persons...
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 They definitely didn't have strippers in this party. I know the place they went well , and it doesn't have strippers - these girls are professional dancers dancing on raised platforms and spots,and they don't strip (they usually wear full length nude(?) coloured uniforms), plus you are not allowed to touch them or you'l be thrown out. They are there only as an attraction and 99% of Greek clubs have them . For the record , Athens and Greece in general (minus Mykonos) has a "conservative" attitude towards nightclubs- drinking and smoking is OK, everything else is "shady" (strip tease included) , and doesn't happen in large,mainstream places like Akrotiri, because it would ruin their reputation and clientele. Only drunken clubbers getnaked in these places,not proffesionals  . So if Carl Philip misbehaved in Athens,it didn't happened in the places the article said they visited
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05-17-2015, 07:10 AM
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Here is the official announcement of Sofia's title after the marriage:
Kommuniké från Riksmarskalken - Sveriges Kungahus [NS4 version]
She will be HRH Princess Sofia of Sweden, Duchess of Värmland.
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05-17-2015, 07:24 AM
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Yay! As it should be, in my eyes. That makes it complete.
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05-17-2015, 07:44 AM
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As we have waited! A decision that make sense. This means that Sofia will get a monogram and coat of arms of her own. That was at least what happened with Prince Daniel.
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05-17-2015, 08:05 AM
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I wonder if the King will bestow any orders on Her Royal Highness Princess Sophia, Duchess of Värmland after the wedding?
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05-17-2015, 08:19 AM
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I wonder if the King will bestow any orders on Her Royal Highness Princess Sophia, Duchess of Värmland after the wedding?
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I guess she will be member of the Order of the Seraphim!
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05-17-2015, 09:11 AM
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I believe it is just "HRH Princess Sofia, Duchess of Värmland" without "of Sweden". That suggests she won't be created a princess on her own right, but use a courtesy title instead.
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05-17-2015, 09:23 AM
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 You are right. It says exactly that on the SRF website.
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05-17-2015, 09:23 AM
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Let's see what the Swedish Royal Court say when Sofia get her own section at the webpage.
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05-17-2015, 09:36 AM
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^^ uhm, i think they''ll copy and paste the biography and cv she has just now...
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05-17-2015, 09:39 AM
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That is interesting indeed! Though I still believe it's just an oversight and she will be Princess of Sweden too. Was for example Princess Lilian a princess in her own right? Just wondering.
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05-17-2015, 09:47 AM
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05-17-2015, 09:54 AM
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What diferrent are just princess or princess of Sweden?
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05-17-2015, 09:58 AM
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That is interesting indeed! Though I still believe it's just an oversight and she will be Princess of Sweden too. Was for example Princess Lilian a princess in her own right? Just wondering.
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I think the scandinavian Houses don't use the Concept of Prince/Princesss in their own right. Those who get the title Prince/Princess with marriage are simply styled like that.
It is also how it is done in the Netherlands where only Máxima was granted the Titles Princess of the Netherlands/Princess of Orange-Nassau. The other woman are simply styled Princess of ... beause of their marriages.
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I guess she will be member of the Order of the Seraphim!
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Perhaps she will get at first only the Order of the Polar Star and later the Seraphi,. Princess Lilian got at her marriage the Order of the Polar Star and only ariound 20 years later the order of the Seraphim.
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05-17-2015, 10:02 AM
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Thanks Stefan! I have just done a bit of research and yes, Lilian was definitely Princess Lilian of Sweden. So I still think Sofia's title will be the same. :-)
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05-17-2015, 10:39 AM
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Perhaps she will get at first only the Order of the Polar Star and later the Seraphi,. Princess Lilian got at her marriage the Order of the Polar Star and only ariound 20 years later the order of the Seraphim.
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Princess Lilian got the Order of the Seraphim on 30th August 1995, on her 80th birthday.
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05-17-2015, 11:26 AM
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That was the original post. As it got closer to the wedding ( just a few days) it was further announced he would be "Prince of Sweden"
From Wikipedia:
The Swedish Royal Court announced that Westling would become "Prince Daniel" and " Duke of Västergötland", [9] corresponding in form to the style used by previous Swedish princes, including Victoria's younger brother Prince Carl Philip, Duke of Värmland, i.e. Prince + Given name + Duke of [Place].
As was further announced in May 2010, on his wedding day Westling was made a prince of Sweden and was granted the style Royal Highness, making him an official member of the Swedish Royal Family and on a par with other senior members of the Royal Family, such as Prince Carl Philip, Princess Madeleine and Princess Lilian. At Stockholm Cathedral, he was also then made a knight of the Royal Order of the Seraphim and already wore its badge and ribbon upon emerging after the ceremony.
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05-17-2015, 11:53 AM
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I have read the announcements for Daniel and Sofia, but apart from the wording, I see no difference.
Daniel - after the wedding granted title of Prince1 (thus will be Prince of Sweden) and will receive the rank of Royal Highness2. Will also be a member of the Royal Family3. And Duke of Västergötland4.
Sofia - after the wedding will become a member of the Royal Family3 and receive the title of HRH2 Princess1 Sofia, Duchess of Värmland4.
I have tried to emphasize and point the similarities out as best I could and I believe the only difference is in their gender. Daniel had to be created, Sofia receives because of her husband.
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