Christening of Prince Julian: August 14, 2021

[principessa]

Prince Julian will be christened 14-08-2021 at Drottningsholm slottskyrka.

https://www.kungahuset.se/press/pres...8359111c1.html

[LadyFinn]

Originally Posted by principessa

Prince Julian will be christened 14-08-2021 at Drottningsholm slottskyrka.

https://www.kungahuset.se/press/pres...8359111c1.html

The press release tells that this christening is not broadcast live on TV. Starting from Victoria's christening in 1977, all christenings of the royal family have been broadcast on TV.

The entire guest list will only be published shortly before the christening. But it is clear that the closest family is present. Margareta Thorgren said to Expressen that this involves the king and queen, and children and grandchildren.
Much about the ceremony depends at the same time on the state of the pandemic and current restrictions. Thorgren said that now the date is set and then they get to see how many people can be at the church and things like that. There is still the pandemic and that controls a little. But you can say that it will be a little smaller christening due to the pandemic.
Då ska prins Julian döpas – närmsta familjen deltar _ Kungligt _ Expressen

[An Ard Ri]

Originally Posted by principessa

Prince Julian will be christened 14-08-2021 at Drottningsholm slottskyrka.

https://www.kungahuset.se/press/pres...8359111c1.html

Thanks for that update I was wondering if the Prince would baptized privately.

[JR76]

Originally Posted by LadyFinn

The press release tells that this christening is not broadcast live on TV. Starting from Victoria's christening in 1977, all christenings of the royal family have been broadcast on TV.

No surprises there. It's all in line with the reformed royal family. I wonder if people will kick up a storm like they did when it was announced that one of Princess Madeleine's children wouldn't get a televised christening.

Edit: - People on Facebook are already protesting against the decision not to broadcast the christening.

[Tatiana Maria]

Originally Posted by JR76

No surprises there. It's all in line with the reformed royal family. I wonder if people will kick up a storm like they did when it was announced that one of Princess Madeleine's children wouldn't get a televised christening.

Edit: - People on Facebook are already protesting against the decision not to broadcast the christening.

But in the case of Prince Nicolas's christening the decision was made by the public broadcaster SVT without the consent of the King, and SVT backtracked after the storm of protest. Does the decision not to broadcast Prince Julian's christening come from the King or from the broadcaster?

If anyone else is searching for the thread on the broadcast of Prince Nicolas's christening: https://www.theroyalforums.com/forum...ml#post1824527

[JR76]

Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria

But in the case of Prince Nicolas's christening the decision was made by the public broadcaster SVT without the consent of the King, and SVT backtracked after the storm of protest. Does the decision not to broadcast Prince Julian's christening come from the King or from the broadcaster?



If anyone else is searching for the thread on the broadcast of Prince Nicolas's christening: https://www.theroyalforums.com/forum...ml#post1824527

The difference here is that the press release specifically states that there won't be a live transmission of the christening while the press release in the thread you linked to regarding Nicolas's christening didn't mention a live transmission at all. That time it quickly became public knowledge that it was SVT and not the Court that didn't want to televise Nicolas's christening, but so far not even Svensk Damtidning has gotten any other comment about Julian's christening than that the date has been chosen to make it able for as many family members as possible to attend.

[Blog Real]

I hope Casa Real will release a video of the baptism.
I understand the decision. Julian is not the son of the heir to the crown, so it is normal for the christening not to be broadcast on TV.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by Blog Real

I hope Casa Real will release a video of the baptism.
I understand the decision. Julian is not the son of the heir to the crown, so it is normal for the christening not to be broadcast on TV.

That argument doesn't apply to the Swedish royal family as the older 5 non-heir grandchildren all had their christening service broadcast.

The main difference is that prince Julian wasn't born as a Royal Highness and prince of Sweden unlike his older brothers and cousins. So, that could be an argument for a different treatment. It will be interesting to see whether he will get the order - as that is also part of the christening service in the SRF (his grandfather did give him a dukedom after all).

[Tatiana Maria]

Originally Posted by JR76

The difference here is that the press release specifically states that there won't be a live transmission of the christening while the press release in the thread you linked to regarding Nicolas's christening didn't mention a live transmission at all.

That seems to suggest the decision came from the King this time.

There is a second interesting difference in that the other grandchildren of the King were baptized by the archbishop of Sweden with the chief chaplain of the court and the pastor of the court parish assisting. But according to the press release, the Archbishop will not be present at Prince Julian's christening. Is that a reflection of his position, or does the Archbishop have other commitments for that day?

[JR76]

Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria

That seems to suggest the decision came from the King this time.



There is a second interesting difference in that the other grandchildren of the King were baptized by the archbishop of Sweden with the chief chaplain of the court and the pastor of the court parish assisting. But according to the press release, the Archbishop will not be present at Prince Julian's christening. Is that a reflection of his position, or does the Archbishop have other commitments for that day?

It could be a reflection of Prince Julian's position, but it could also be because the Archbishop is busy. Prince Gabriel was christened by Antje Jackelén's retired predecessor Anders Wejryd because Antje was away at the time on a previously booked engagement at the time of the christening.
The Court chaplain, Johan Dalman, is also the Bishop of Strängnäs.

[Tatiana Maria]

Originally Posted by JR76

It could be a reflection of Prince Julian's position, but it could also be because the Archbishop is busy. Prince Gabriel was christened by Antje Jackelén's retired predecessor Anders Wejryd because Antje was away at the time on a previously booked engagement at the time of the christening.
The Court chaplain, Johan Dalman, is also the Bishop of Strängnäs.

Thank you for the correction! Since the Archbishop Emeritus was not called in this time, couldn't we assume the omission of the Archbishop is deliberate?

[JR76]

Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria

Thank you for the correction! Since the Archbishop Emeritus was not called in this time, couldn't we assume the omission of the Archbishop is deliberate?

I think that it's deliberate, but it's impossible to do anything but guess without a statement from those involved (or not involved). Antje might be away on her summer holiday, Anders might be busy with one of his many engagements...

[An Ard Ri]

Originally Posted by Blog Real

I hope Casa Real will release a video of the baptism.
I understand the decision. Julian is not the son of the heir to the crown, so it is normal for the christening not to be broadcast on TV.

I'm sure there will be footage and some photos of the Prince's Baptism.

[LadyFinn]

Margareta Thorgren to Hänt Magazine about the christening:
- Prince Julian's christening will be documented and communicated in various ways both via photo and moving material, in the Royal House's channels and hopefully also in TV channels, however, there will be no live broadcast. The reason for this is that each christening is unique and adapted to the circumstances. Sweden is still in a pandemic which is an important part of this decision.
Thorgren also says that at best, the entire royal family will participate in the christening.
- Hopefully the whole royal family, but we will only present the guest list a few days before the christening. It all depends on the pandemic.
Hovets besked_ Så blir prins Julians dop – tvingas göra om _ Hänt

[LadyFinn]

The christening was put to the royal calendar
The King, the Queen, th Crown Princess, Prince Daniel, Prince Carl Philip, Princess Sofia, Princess Madeleine, Christopher O'Neill are listed to attend
Kalender - Sveriges Kungahus

[Tatiana Maria]

Originally Posted by LadyFinn

Margareta Thorgren to Hänt Magazine about the christening:
- Prince Julian's christening will be documented and communicated in various ways both via photo and moving material, in the Royal House's channels and hopefully also in TV channels, however, there will be no live broadcast. The reason for this is that each christening is unique and adapted to the circumstances. Sweden is still in a pandemic which is an important part of this decision.
Thorgren also says that at best, the entire royal family will participate in the christening.
- Hopefully the whole royal family, but we will only present the guest list a few days before the christening. It all depends on the pandemic.
Hovets besked_ Så blir prins Julians dop – tvingas göra om _ Hänt

That is an interesting statement. One can infer from it that the differences between Prince Julian's christening and those of his siblings and cousins are on account of the pandemic and not the fact that he was not born as a Prince of Sweden, but on the other hand, Margareta Thorgren never explicitly denies that Julian's status was a factor.

[LadyFinn]

Julian's christening will be shown on SVT.
- It will be broadcast in a summary at 18.15 pm on Sunday 15th August. The program lasts for 45 minutes, confirms Helena Brodén at SVT's press department.
Svensk Damtidning asked Margareta Thorgren, when was it decided that Julian's christening would be televised after all?
- It has been the plan from the beginning. It is not broadcast live but is filmed for the archives and because the Swedish people want to see the christening. The other grandchildren's christenings have been broadcast live, but Prince Julian's TV viewers will see the next day in a summary, says Thorgren.
Does it have to do with the fact that Prince Carl Philip's children no longer belong to the Royal House?
- No, it has to do with the pandemic. We will still be in a pandemic with restrictions in mid-August.
Prins Julians dop sänds i SVT – Sofias och Carl Philips beslut _*Svensk Dam

[Archduchess Zelia]

That's nice! Was sort of bummed out that Julian's was be the only christening we wouldn't get to see it so these are lovely news.

[Queen Ester]

I am Jewish, could someone explain why the baptism occurs not of the day of birth, but at 14,thank you

[JR76]

Originally Posted by Queen Ester

I am Jewish, could someone explain why the baptism occurs not of the day of birth, but at 14,thank you

There is no set time for when you have to be baptised, but in general the children who are baptised are so during the first six months of their lives.