Willem-Alexander, Máxima and Family, General News Part 4 (Sep 2020-Present)

[victor1319]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

I am afraid I am not so optimistic. I expect this year, around King's Day, we will see the traditional extensive polls and for the first time the majority will sink below the critical mass: only a minority supporting the system of hereditary kingship.

Well, the future is inherently unknown, so, I hope not at least in the interest of us, the royal watchers here in the Royal Forums, that your assumptions will be not come true.

Generally speaking, I feel, the Dutch Corwn is safe, as safe as the Crowns of Belgium and Luxembourg (albeit the Letzeburgers have lost all powers recently). These Monarchies are nice traditions as well and the zeitgeist will be becoming more conservative soon.

I had always the feeling too, the Dutch love their Oranje Dag or whatever and it is hard to explain, why everybody is wearing this orange alarm color, without the House of Oranje.

[iceflower]

The Palace has shared two photos of King Willem-Alexander taken today with the caption:


** Pic 1 ** Pic 2 **

Every year, the King signs about 500 laws and General Administrative Orders and about 3000 Royal Decrees. All these documents must be signed by the King. It is not possible to sign documents by someone else on behalf of the King.

Further information has been shared here (translation).


Addition: Some additional photos can be found here: gettyimages gallery

[Duc_et_Pair]

In ye olde times ordonnance officers would travel to the King or Queen, when outside the country. For an example in Lech am Arlberg or in Porto Ercole.

These days the King -when outside- signs Acts and Decrees with an electronic signature, to assent it and enable enforcement. But when he returns in the Netherlands, still the original Act and Decrees will need his physical signature (and a physical contraseign of the minister taking this Act or Decree for his responsibility).

This is the lay-out of Acts and Decrees under Willem-Alexander: picture.

[Marengo]

Apparently the king and his family are flying to Austria today for another well-timed vacation.

https://twitter.com/mennoswart/statu...869353989?s=21

[lula]

That a Head of State signs decrees or uses electronic signatures when abroad is nothing new or exceptional. Are the photos a way to show that although the king is on vacation in Lech he will continue to sign decrees? A world crisis, and they go on ski vacations, when a couple of weeks ago they were on vacation in Spain...

[Duc_et_Pair]

Millions of Dutchmen are flocking to the South this weekend for mass-events (Carnival) or for their Spring Break. All these millions seem not to care about a war in Ukraine. But I agree: if the royal family is wise, they better abort their eventual plans.

[SLV]

That those people celebrate carnival does not mean they don't care about what is happening in the Ukraine. Staying home will not change it.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by SLV

That those people celebrate carnival does not mean they don't care about what is happening in the Ukraine. Staying home will not change it.

I am a Southerner and I can not imagine myself singing and dancing lalalalala while on tv cruise missiles hit civilians in a country bordering the EU.

But when Carnival is no problem, then the royal family can go to Lech?

[An Ard Ri]

Originally Posted by Marengo

Apparently the king and his family are flying to Austria today for another well-timed vacation.

https://twitter.com/mennoswart/statu...869353989?s=21

Well timed indeed ,who on earth advises the king?

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by An Ard Ri

Well timed indeed ,who on earth advises the king?

For so far I have not seen, heard or read that the royal family has left for Austria.

[An Ard Ri]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

For so far I have not seen, heard or read that the royal family has left for Austria.

I hope they've had a change of mind.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by An Ard Ri

I hope they've had a change of mind.

And/or the Prime Minister.

[An Ard Ri]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

And/or the Prime Minister.

We will wait and see what happens.

[Duc_et_Pair]

It seems the Government plane has landed and left Innsbruck 7 hours ago. No idea if the royal family was aboard. Another Government plane went to Base Aerienne 7 Villacoublay-Vélizy near Paris, we may assume that has no relation to the royal family.

[An Ard Ri]

Has it been established if the king and family are in Austria or if they stayed at home?

[victor1319]

I thought the Dutch King has no say whatsoever in the Dutch Foreign or Defence politics.

And now, that the Dutch Royals seem to behave, like their presence is not needed, since they have no role to play at all - That is a problem!

Interesting!

In my mind, sure, no holidays for the King! I see Royals as some kind of backup and not only morally. So, the have to act responsible and as if...

[iceflower]

King Willem-Alexander and Queen Máxima have sent a message to the Dutch team for the start of the Paralympics in Beijing today:


** Twitter post **

The Paralympic Winter Games have started. While the world sympathizes with the people of Ukraine, our athletes are committed to a sporting event for which they have been preparing for years. We hope for great performances from #TeamNL. Good luck at #Beijing2022!

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by victor1319

I thought the Dutch King has no say whatsoever in the Dutch Foreign or Defence politics.

And now, that the Dutch Royals seem to behave, like their presence is not needed, since they have no role to play at all - That is a problem!

Interesting!

In my mind, sure, no holidays for the King! I see Royals as some kind of backup and not only morally. So, the have to act responsible and as if...

In fact no any royal has any operational say in foreign- or defence politics, with possible exception of the Pope (Swiss Guards). Apart from sending 200 Stinger air defence missiles, 50 Panzerfausts III anti tank systems with 200 missiles and an unknown number of sniper guns, the Netherlands are not involved.

Today it became known the Netherlands will send new items: an unspecified number of armoured vehicles, laptops, field hospitals with full equipment, bulletproof vests and additional missiles to Ukraine.

And that is it, no soldier is deployed, also no extra Dutch military as already assigned towards the NATO Quick Response Force in Eastern Europe. No role for the King as the Constitution says "The Government holds the supreme commmand over the armed forces". (Before 1983 it was "The King").

Originally Posted by An Ard Ri

Has it been established if the king and family are in Austria or if they stayed at home?

No idea, nothing seen, nothing heard. But half of the nation was holidaying or partying (Carnival) anyway.

[Lee-Z]

Half of the nation does not have a rolemodel position
but it is clear that the W-A regards kingship a job as a government employee

but the dutch hardly care where he is, so why should we

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by Lee-Z

Half of the nation does not have a rolemodel position
but it is clear that the W-A regards kingship a job as a government employee

but the dutch hardly care where he is, so why should we

A role model? For whom?
Have Willem-Alexander, Beatrix, Juliana, Wilhelmina etc. ever been a role model?