Willem-Alexander, Máxima and Family, General News Part 3 (May 2017-Aug 2020)

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by lula

Have we ever seen Máxima and her daughters wearing a traditional Dutch costume?

No. But unlike in Andalucía, there are no Dutch public festivals in which traditional costume are worn by the locals. There is no Dutch equivalent of this Feria in Sevilla.

Originally Posted by gerry

Thank you for posting the pictures of this lovely event: one wants to know much more about the Feria. I was certainly intrigued and perhaps a little shocked by the video that shows the King clearly pushing an elderly gentleman out of the way as he, the king, moved forward Does anyone know who this person might be; I am quite curious why the king would exhibit such ungentlemanly behaviour

The personal space of his four ladies is sacred by the King. That is his red button, so to say. I can see he was clearly irritated by the trampling and directed his ladies to go inside. He only touched the gentleman (who then blocked the path of the Queen, by the way). Little fuss about some congestion. I saw a lot of "ears". I do not know if these were Spanish or Dutch "ears" but their job to make free way was not so succesful here.

Originally Posted by ashelen

Yes, I hear that Maxima's friend from school, who was from a rich family knew WA and introduce to her. I think it make more sense that . She wasn't friends with Royalty before meeting him.

In my understanding Máxima Zorreguieta Cerruti became befriended with Prince Maximilian von und zu Liechtenstein, who was inside the New York haute Finance as well (JP Morgan). In 1999 Máxima was Vice-President Latin-American Institutional Sales at Dresdner Kleinwort Benson.

This Prince invited Máxima to bring a visit to this Feria in Sevilla. Thanks to the Prince's network Máxima got access to the caseta of the exclusive Real Club de Andalucía.

And in that caseta the eyes of a certain blonde guest, invited by Doña Miriam Ungría, the Princess of Tarnovo, was struck by that unknown sparkling blonde lady from New York.

[lula]

In Spain there are dozens of regional costumes that are dressed in the popular festivals of each region, city and village ... I can not believe that in Holland there is no occasion where the regional dress is worn.

The April Fair is a crowded place, full of people and press, they knew that it was not a discreet place and the King can not go pushing in that way. If you want space, privacy and calm the fair is not your place.

The April Fair is held in an enclosure that is open and can be visited, but the parties are held in "casetas", although there are some public, most are private and belong to associations or clubs, and can only be accessed by invitation. They were invited to the "caseta" of the Aero, a private and exclusive club in Sevilla, its exclusive parties receive every year famous people and aristocracy. The club appointed King Willem Alexander as an honorary partner, precisely because Willem Alexander and Máxima met at their "caseta". Normally the guests are aristocrats or non-reigning princes (such as Pavlos and Marie Chantal who were invited by Pia Getty's Spanish boyfriend who is the club's ambassador), it's a chance for the jet set to party and be seen.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by lula

In Spain there are dozens of regional costumes that are dressed in the popular festivals of each region, city and village ... I can not believe that in Holland there is no occasion where the regional dress is worn.
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No, there is no such day in which locals all dress up in traditional costume. There are folkloristic clubs who try to maintain traditional dress, but that is someting else than a fiesta in which people from Sevilla, Córdoba, Granada, Ronda, Málaga, Jérez de la Frontera, etc. dress up to go to the Feria.


The closest to local dress are people from regions to flock to The Hague to see the royal procession advancing from Noordeinde Palace to the Hall of Knights.


Ladies from Staphorst alongside the route at Prinsjesdag: http://www.marcelvandenbergh.com/upl...sjesdag-8d.jpg


Traditional dress from Zealand: http://www.ons-boeregoed.nl/wp-conte...DSC06492ab.jpg


Various traditional dresses on ice: https://www.immaterieelerfgoed.nl/im...B3602E2%29.jpg

[eya]

The Royal Family last night in Seville, at a party at the Italian consulate

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6R1TRcWkAEoj6-.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6R1TRbWwAAw21k.jpg

https://www.semana.es/casas-reales/f...511-002093631/

https://www.hola.com/realeza/casa_ho...a-feria-abril/

[ashelen]

So anyone here can say a little more about the Feria de Sevilla? The lunch they had was probably a private event right? Is the feria an actually free entrance ? or you have to pay tickets to go in? It looks something really fun to do !

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

In my understanding Máxima Zorreguieta Cerruti became befriended with Prince Maximilian von und zu Liechtenstein, who was inside the New York haute Finance as well (JP Morgan). In 1999 Máxima was Vice-President Latin-American Institutional Sales at Dresdner Kleinwort Benson.

This Prince invited Máxima to bring a visit to this Feria in Sevilla. Thanks to the Prince's network Máxima got access to the caseta of the exclusive Real Club de Andalucía.

And in that caseta the eyes of a certain blonde guest, invited by Doña Miriam Ungría, the Princess of Tarnovo, was struck by that unknown sparkling blonde lady from New York.

Is very possible what you say, I read so many different versions of how they met but yours make sense. The one I mentioned it is from the Argentinean press, at the time they gave the name of the friend .

[lula]

The streets of the fair are free access, and there are "casetas" where there is food, music and dance, some are public but most are private and you can only access with invitation. They went to a lunch in the "caseta" of the private club AERO, one of the most exclusive of the fair, that usually attend aristocrats, businessmen or celebrities.

The Seville Fair is the largest and where more famous people go to be seen ... but there are similar fairs in many cities of Andalucia.

[ashelen]

Originally Posted by lula

The streets of the fair are free access, and there are "casetas" where there is food, music and dance, some are public but most are private and you can only access with invitation. They went to a lunch in the "caseta" of the private club AERO, one of the most exclusive of the fair, that usually attend aristocrats, businessmen or celebrities.

The Seville Fair is the largest and where more famous people go to be seen ... but there are similar fairs in many cities of Andalucia.

Thank you! Wow must be nice to be invited to the private Club Aero. It seems a lot of fun and a nice excuse to dress with something different! The flamenco dresses are gorgeous!

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by lula

The streets of the fair are free access, and there are "casetas" where there is food, music and dance, some are public but most are private and you can only access with invitation. They went to a lunch in the "caseta" of the private club AERO, one of the most exclusive of the fair, that usually attend aristocrats, businessmen or celebrities.

The Seville Fair is the largest and where more famous people go to be seen ... but there are similar fairs in many cities of Andalucia.

What is the difference between Real Club de Andalucía and the Aero? I see both mentioned. Is Aero another name for the same club? Or is the caseta of Aero one of the casetas inside the compound of the Real Club de Andalucía at the Feria? I also see: Real Club de Andalucía "El Aero" to make the confusion complete.

See: https://rfepolo.org/index.php/nel-eq...-laligasports/

[lula]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

What is the difference between Real Club de Andalucía and the Aero? I see both mentioned. Is Aero another name for the same club? Or is the caseta of Aero one of the casetas inside the compound of the Real Club de Andalucía at the Feria? I also see: Real Club de Andalucía "El Aero" to make the confusion complete.

See: https://rfepolo.org/index.php/nel-eq...-laligasports/

The full name is Real Club de Andalucía "EI Aero"

http://www.realclubdeandalucia.org/

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by An Ard Ri

Here a few more photos of the Dutch Royal Family in Seville getting into the swing of things!

https://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?...5-2019%20Spain

Could they be talking to the Duke of Alba in this picture?

[HereditaryPrincess]

Looks as if the family had a fun time in Seville and it's nice that the AAAs are taken along to such events - and a chance to practice their Spanish!

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by HereditaryPrincess

Looks as if the family had a fun time in Seville and it's nice that the AAAs are taken along to such events - and a chance to practice their Spanish!

I believe the family hired Spanish-speaking nannies, as of course the four ladies have Spanish-speaking family. I guess they will speak German too, for their German relatives and the annual wintersport in Lech.

Originally Posted by lula

The full name is Real Club de Andalucía "EI Aero"

http://www.realclubdeandalucia.org/

Ah clear. Thanks for the link!

[ladongas]

A few more:

https://www.therealmyroyals.com/king...seville-spain/

[gerry]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

The personal space of his four ladies is sacred by the King. That is his red button, so to say. I can see he was clearly irritated by the trampling and directed his ladies to go inside. He only touched the gentleman (who then blocked the path of the Queen, by the way). Little fuss about some congestion. I saw a lot of "ears". I do not know if these were Spanish or Dutch "ears" but their job to make free way was not so succesful here.

thank you for the explanation; indeed crowds are nerve-wracking and certainly in such a situation as the Feria, were there does not seem to be much crowd control. The King did well in protecting his own.

[janelarn]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

The personal space of his four ladies is sacred by the King. That is his red button, so to say. I can see he was clearly irritated by the trampling and directed his ladies to go inside. He only touched the gentleman (who then blocked the path of the Queen, by the way). Little fuss about some congestion. I saw a lot of "ears". I do not know if these were Spanish or Dutch "ears" but their job to make free way was not so succesful here.

It's a shame, and because of what you see in the video, nobody is attacking or bothering your "women". And even if it was, you have no right to mistreat an elderly and less Spanish. What do you think they are? They manipulate the press of their country without leaving them an option for freedom ... not a minimum. Do not think that you are going to go to a foreign country and you are still a king, No sir. What rudeness and bad education has shown. It is very serious. Especially since the "attack" has been on a Spanish citizen and there is no way to excuse this king and most of the time, disappeared.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDMK...ature=youtu.be

[janelarn]

Originally Posted by gerry

thank you for the explanation; indeed crowds are nerve-wracking and certainly in such a situation as the Feria, were there does not seem to be much crowd control. The King did well in protecting his own.

The king did well? I did not see at any time that they were surrounded by neither crowd nor photographers, because most of them do not even know who these Dutch kings are. It is seen in the images that they pose and then the journalists tell them but the people who pass by the street, do not know anything. This guy, he hits an ANCIENT, and he's not even in his country. It is an aggression and do you still think well?:explosión::explosión:

[HereditaryPrincess]

Whilst I do think it was pretty poor of WA to have knocked the elderly gentleman out of the way, I can't imagine he's the sort of person who would do such a gesture out of malice. It seems as if he genuinely didn't notice that the man was behind him - it was a very busy crowd, after all. It's just unfortunate that it happened - but I hardly imagine WA meant any harm or damage.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by janelarn

It's a shame, and because of what you see in the video, nobody is attacking or bothering your "women". And even if it was, you have no right to mistreat an elderly and less Spanish. What do you think they are? They manipulate the press of their country without leaving them an option for freedom ... not a minimum. Do not think that you are going to go to a foreign country and you are still a king, No sir. What rudeness and bad education has shown. It is very serious. Especially since the "attack" has been on a Spanish citizen and there is no way to excuse this king and most of the time, disappeared.

Is that all?

You really need to assume bad intentions to justify the outrage for the king passing someone and doing so slightly clumsy.

And please explain the supposed manipulation in 'the press of their country' as that is quite a statement: the Dutch press being fully controlled by the royal family. Where can I find all the articles by international organizations writing about this gross attack on the freedom of press by the Dutch king?

[An Ard Ri]

Originally Posted by Somebody

Could they be talking to the Duke of Alba in this picture?

Yes I believe that is the current Duke de Alba he was there with his son and daughter in law the Duke and Duchess de Huéscar.Also present was the king of Spains 1st cousin Doña Simoneta Gómez Acebo.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...source=sh/x/im

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by An Ard Ri

Yes I believe that is the current Duke de Alba he was there with his son and daughter in law the Duke and Duchess de Huéscar.Also present was the king of Spains 1st cousin Doña Simoneta Gómez Acebo.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...source=sh/x/im

Thanks for the confirmation!

Nice to see the Dutch royal family interacting with the Spanish nobility; especially since the family is (mostly) fluent in Spanish (at least the queen and I assume the princesses as well and the king might not be fluent but should speak Spanish well enough to easily converse in Spanish).