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11-26-2007, 04:39 PM
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I really hope to be wrong but I always had a bad feeling about this brother. I suspect he is a bit jealous of Maxima and I believe he will cause her troubles in the future. I hope to be wrong though.
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11-30-2007, 05:12 AM
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According to the newspaper ´De Telegraaf´, Jorge Zorreguieta and other Videla government officials will lose the right to priveldged pensions that they had, this was decided yesterday in Buenos Aires by the House of Representatives. The pension was given to all old officials, and from 1981 to now they received an around 1000 Euro´s per month.
Though it isn´t customary to stop such things, the party of Pres. Kirchner thought it appropriate due to the nature of the Videla regime.
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11-30-2007, 09:59 AM
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Thanks Verde, but what is the Union Vecina Angostura Comunal?
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It's a group of inhabitants of Villa La Angostura (the small town in the Patagonia where Martín Z. lives and has his bistró) who gathered in order to claim certain things (for instance, they stopped the construction of the casino). Apparently, this gathering started gaining power and right now it is a political party, and their candidate for Major recently won the elections (not Zorreguieta, btw). Martin Z. is one of the men who started this group, and he is currently its vicepresident.
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11-30-2007, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Marengo
According to the newspaper ´De Telegraaf´, Jorge Zorreguieta and other Videla government officials will lose the right to priveldged pensions that they had, this was decided yesterday in Buenos Aires by the House of Representatives. The pension was given to all old officials, and from 1981 to now they received an around 1000 Euro´s per month.
Though it isn´t customary to stop such things, the party of Pres. Kirchner thought it appropriate due to the nature of the Videla regime.
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Indeed, in this article from Pagina 12
Página/12 Web :: El país :: Diputados dio media sanción a la ley sobre los tickets canasta
it says that the members of the Cámara de Diputados (the Congress / Parliament in our country is divided in two: Diputados and Senadores - Senators - ) gave their approval to this initiative (it still needs the consent of the Senators, the other half). It only refers to the members of the last military dictatorship (1976-1983) - we had other military regimes as well, but the members of these others are not included.
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12-03-2007, 08:52 AM
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Jorge Zorreguieta has now been officially designated as president of the COPAL (Coordinadora de las Industrias de Productos Alimenticios), which as said before in this thread, is a chamber that gathers producers of food and beverages, a very powerful one.
This article was published today in Clarín newspaper (the picture is not really the best of Jorge Z., seems to have been taken in the street):
Zorreguieta asume como presidente de la COPAL
In the note next to the picture, it reads "Zorreguieta, sugar tycoon". And along the article, he is always addressed as "the father of princess Máxima of the Netherlands".
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12-03-2007, 03:19 PM
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The newspaper El Cronista Comercial also has an article on Jorge Z.'s designation today:
Jorge Zorreguieta asume la presidencia de Copal
On its cover, a small square says "The food producers chose Máxima's father to represent them" and continues "Jorge Zorr aguieta is Copal's new president"
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12-03-2007, 03:51 PM
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In the section "Reader's letters" of today's edition of La Nación newspaper, one of the reader's signs as 'Pbro. Rafael Braun' (note: Pbro. is the short form for the word presbítero, which means priest). The letter goes as following:
No fueron consultados
Señor Director:
"El doctor Eduardo Braun Menéndez falleció el 16 de enero de 1959 en un accidente aéreo.
"Hasta el último día de su vida, nuestro padre manifestó su desacuerdo con el modelo universitario adoptado en la creación de la Universidad Católica Argentina (UCA).
"Hoy, una profusa publicidad de la UCA promociona becas con su nombre. En representacion de sus ocho hijos vivientes, deseo informar que no hemos sido consultados para ello, y que tampoco hemos efectuado contribución económica alguna para solventarlas."
Pbro. Rafael Braun
LE 4.156.370
Cartas de lectores | LANACION.com
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12-03-2007, 04:08 PM
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Translation:
Were not consulted
Mr. Director:
"Dr.Eduardo Braun Menéndez passed away January 16th, 1959 in a plane crash.
"Till the very last moment of his life, our father claimed his discontent with the university model adopted for the creation of the Universidad Católica Argentina (UCA)
"Today, a large ad of the UCA promotes scholarships named after him. On behalf of his 8 living sons, I wish to inform that we have not been consulted for it, and we also haven't made any economic contribution to support them."
Pbro. Rafael Braun
LE 4.156.370
I understand he is the same catholic priest that participated in the wedding ceremony, back in 2002.
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12-12-2007, 08:59 PM
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From Descendants of José Antonio de Sorreguieta y Oyarzabal
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1.1.2.1.2.Jorge Horacio Zorreguieta Stefanini (*1928), m.1st 1956 (div) Martha López Gil (*1935), m.2nd 1970 María del Carmen Cerruti Carricart (*1944)
1.1.2.1.2.1.María Zorreguieta López Gil (*1956)
1.1.2.1.2.2.Ángeles Zorreguieta López Gil (*1958), m.1st Fernando Galante, m.2nd Adrián Vojnov
1.1.2.1.2.2.1.Sebastián Galante Zorreguieta
1.1.2.1.2.2.2.Facundo Galante Zorreguieta
1.1.2.1.2.2.3.Ana Vojnov Zorreguieta (*1996)
1.1.2.1.2.3.Dolores Zorreguieta López Gil (*1965), m. Harmond Grad Lewis
1.1.2.1.2.4.Máxima Zorreguieta Cerruti (*1971), m.2002 Prince Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands, Prince of Orange (*1967)
1.1.2.1.2.4.1.Princess Catharina-Amalia of the Netherlands (*2003)
1.1.2.1.2.5.Martín Zorreguieta Cerruti (*1972), m. Mariana Andrés
1.1.2.1.2.6.Juan Zorreguieta Cerruti (*1982)
1.1.2.1.2.7.Inés Zorreguieta Cerruti (*1984)
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So meanwhile María is married and Martín is divorced? Is that true?
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12-13-2007, 03:45 AM
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So meanwhile María is married and Martín is divorced? Is that true?
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Yes, I think that is true. Dolores is also divorced, isn't she?
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12-13-2007, 05:49 AM
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martin is divorced since not long ago. not so sure about dolores, i think she is still married to harmond grad lewis. he is american. here is a picture: http://www.humano.ya.com/zorre/maxim...s/flia_jpg.jpg
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12-13-2007, 11:04 AM
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one question, the father of maxima has a previuos marriage, now i belive in the 70s wasn't legal divorce in argentina, so i don't think her parents were marriage at the time she born, anyones know about that? if the married in uruguay or via mexico , still in argentina was not legal
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12-13-2007, 11:53 AM
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one question, the father of maxima has a previuos marriage, now i belive in the 70s wasn't legal divorce in argentina, so i don't think her parents were marriage at the time she born, anyones know about that?????? if the married in uruguay or via mexico , still in argentina was not legal
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They got married in Paraguay, and when Máxima was born they were already married
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12-13-2007, 12:17 PM
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ok, they were married via paraguay but correct me if i am wrong, but at the time the argentinean law would not recognize this marriage becasue he was married before and argentina is a catholic country so by law it was valid only his first marriage even if he was separated from his first wife, for what i understand the second marriage in paraguay wasn't valid in argentina at the time that maxima born
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12-13-2007, 01:07 PM
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I really hope to be wrong but I always had a bad feeling about this brother. I suspect he is a bit jealous of Maxima and I believe he will cause her troubles in the future. I hope to be wrong though.
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I do have the same feeling - in my case, I do percieve him as a fame-digger. I wouldn't say he is jealous of her - he owes her his 'popularity' and his restaurant's.
He took advantage of her sister's press in order to get himself some. And it turned out brilliantly well indeed, as far as his business and social life are concerned, IMHO. After all, who can blame him? I would blame the media instead, for giving him wings!
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12-13-2007, 11:55 PM
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I do have the same feeling - in my case, I do percieve him as a fame-digger. I wouldn't say he is jealous of her - he owes her his 'popularity' and his restaurant's.
He took advantage of her sister's press in order to get himself some. And it turned out brilliantly well indeed, as far as his business and social life are concerned, IMHO. After all, who can blame him? I would blame the media instead, for giving him wings!
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I think you are not fair to him, we have never heard him talk, even though he must have a lot of offers, so i don´t see where is the advantage. We know him because we follow Maxima´s life, but people in Argentina don´t have any idea where he lives, or how many siblings she has.
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12-16-2007, 06:56 PM
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I think you are not fair to him, we have never heard him talk, even though he must have a lot of offers, so i don´t see where is the advantage. We know him because we follow Maxima´s life, but people in Argentina don´t have any idea where he lives, or how many siblings she has.
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You never heard him "talk", but I'm sure you must have seen as many interviews as I've read on him, and the main interest of making these interviews to him is...that he is Máxima's brother and has something to say about himself & his business.
I agree to you Rosana, in the fact that many people do not know / care about him, and I don't care about him either - I just feel he prompted into 'being known' through magazines and giving interviews, something that her other siblings, friends or parents didn't even remotely do... that's what I am talking about.
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12-19-2007, 06:10 PM
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what about the rest of her family that Mhave grandparents alive?????
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12-19-2007, 06:27 PM
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what about the rest of her family that Mhave grandparents alive?????
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I don't think Máxima's grandparents are alive.
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01-26-2008, 01:25 PM
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how often do maxima's parents come to visit
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