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Old 05-07-2021, 08:28 PM
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I'd be very surprised if he had the time. He had a busy week with engagements such as the School Olympics, a training camp for kids to prepare for the Royal run, an awards ceremony, an annual celebratory gala at the University of Aarhus and the funeral of the three children of a close friend who had been killed in a terrorist attack in Sri Lanka.
Wasn't that terrorist attack much more recently? Instead of in 1999? Or were you thinking about them celebrating the Feria 20 years after they met there? Frederik clearly wasn't with them at that time.

I am pretty sure that Blog Real was talking about their original meeting in 1999 that according to at least one source also (was supposed to) include(d) Frederik.
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Old 05-08-2021, 01:16 AM
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Wasn't that terrorist attack much more recently? Instead of in 1999? Or were you thinking about them celebrating the Feria 20 years after they met there? Frederik clearly wasn't with them at that time.

I am pretty sure that Blog Real was talking about their original meeting in 1999 that according to at least one source also (was supposed to) include(d) Frederik.
I was talking about 2019. I thought the question was if he was present in Sevilla during the couple's 20th anniversary.
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Old 05-08-2021, 02:43 AM
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I was talking about 2019. I thought the question was if he was present in Sevilla during the couple's 20th anniversary.
The Feria was from 18 until 25 April 1999. The authors claim the place to be was the caseta of "Club Aero" where Prince Willem-Alexander and Prince Frederik were guests of the Sevillan high society assembled in there.
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Old 05-08-2021, 06:19 AM
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The Feria was from 18 until 25 April 1999. The authors claim the place to be was the caseta of "Club Aero" where Prince Willem-Alexander and Prince Frederik were guests of the Sevillan high society assembled in there.
Well, Frederick was in Sevilla for the world championship.
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Old 05-08-2021, 06:51 AM
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Well, Frederick was in Sevilla for the world championship.
The Athletics World Championships 1999 was in Sevilla indeed, but held in August, not in April. It is not impossible that Frederik, like Felipe, Willem-Alexander, Pavlos of Greece, Karl of Austria etc. has been guest of the "Club Aero".

We would never ever have known either that Willem-Alexander was in Sevilla, was it not that he had an encounter with Máxima there.

Once Queen Beatrix felt ill on the yacht of Alfred Heineken (yes, from the beer) and had to be carried into an ambulance in the port of Antibes. No one knew the Queen was in the Provence at all, not even the Cabinet. (The security officers thought it was not necessary to inform "such details" to the Cabinet). And no one would have known it ever, had the Queen not fallen ill.

Morale: royals make trips without one even knowing.
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Old 05-08-2021, 07:06 AM
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The Athletics World Championships 1999 was in Sevilla indeed, but held in August, not in April. It is not impossible that Frederik, like Felipe, Willem-Alexander, Pavlos of Greece, Karl of Austria etc. has been guest of the "Club Aero".

We would never ever have known either that Willem-Alexander was in Sevilla, was it not that he had an encounter with Máxima there.

Once Queen Beatrix felt ill on the yacht of Alfred Heineken (yes, from the beer) and had to be carried into an ambulance in the port of Antibes. No one knew the Queen was in the Provence at all, not even the Cabinet. (The security officers thought it was not necessary to inform "such details" to the Cabinet). And no one would have known it ever, had the Queen not fallen ill.

Morale: royals make trips without one even knowing.
Correct, sorry, I thought both was in August and am more familar with DRF.
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Old 05-08-2021, 08:14 AM
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Correct, sorry, I thought both was in August and am more familar with DRF.
In the thread about the sisters of the late Prince Philip, there is a picture of young Willem-Alexander, young Frederik and Margareta of Romania being guest aboard the Brittannia.

See: https://www.theroyalforums.com/forum...2&d=1618726331

No one ever knew they were at the Brittannia, so an equal surprise of Frederik plus Willem-Alexander at the same time in Sevilla is not impossible.
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Old 05-17-2021, 03:08 AM
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Such a pity Mrs.Zorreguieta can't be with her daughter Maxima today to celebrate her 50th birthday.Due to Covid restrictions she is not allowed to leave Argentina.
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There is a new unauthorized biography on the Spanish-speaking market: Máxima. La construccíon de una reina by Rodolfo Vera Calderón and María Paula Galloni:

https://books.apple.com/nl/boo...%B3...a/id1564342588
Was the British nobleman David Anness?
The only pre-Willem-Alexander romantic interest that was publicized was Dieter Zimmerman
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Old 05-21-2021, 06:13 PM
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Was the British nobleman David Anness?
The only pre-Willem-Alexander romantic interest that was publicized was Dieter Zimmerman
Dieter Zimmermann looks like a friend but not a romantic one.

According the authors Máxima's first fiancé was Federico de Álzaga, from one of the most wealthy Argentine families. Frederico owns Arcano, a jewelry and horloge firm in Buenos Aires. Queen Máxima is seen in items from Arcano: gold earrings, necklace, bracelet and ring from Arcano:
https://artear-tn-prod.cdn.arcpublis...UM4OVW2VTA.jpg.

After a first job with Mercado Abierto S.A., Máxima continued her career at Boston Securities in Buenos Aires where she was in charge of the sale of shares and government bonds. Following the devaluation of the national currency, Máxima understood that her professional future was in New York, a financial center. The relationship with Federico de Álzaga came to an end when the young man refused to leave Argentina, joining Máxima.

Frederico de Álzaga in younger years:
https://aracano.com/wp-content/uploa...2e-239x330.jpg

Frederico de Álzaga now:
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Old 05-21-2021, 06:23 PM
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Was the British nobleman David Anness?
The only pre-Willem-Alexander romantic interest that was publicized was Dieter Zimmerman
Anness? There is no nobility to that family according thepeerage.com.
No idea. It is also possible the authors spicied things up: Máxima only dating certain gentlemen.
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Old 05-21-2021, 07:59 PM
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Did anyone already read 'Máxima Zorreguieta - Moederland'. It sounds as if that might give a rather accurate insight in to her years until she met her prince. While the queen said that she would never read the book as she wasn't interested in/uncomfortable reading about herself as she already lived that life, she authorized (or at least 'allowed') people close to her to talk to the author.

The author, Marcia Luyten, is currently working on a second volume 'Vaderland' - about her years after she met her prince.
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Old 05-22-2021, 06:22 AM
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The only royal books I have read are the two books on Wilhelmina by Cees Fasseur, on Juliana by Jolande Withuis and the Koningsbiografieën, the trilogy on Willem I, Willem II and Willem III. All these books are build on extensive sources which are listed in a register. The current wave of Máxima books looks a bit of summer beach lecture to me.
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Old 05-24-2021, 06:42 AM
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Did anyone already read 'Máxima Zorreguieta - Moederland'. It sounds as if that might give a rather accurate insight in to her years until she met her prince. While the queen said that she would never read the book as she wasn't interested in/uncomfortable reading about herself as she already lived that life, she authorized (or at least 'allowed') people close to her to talk to the author.

The author, Marcia Luyten, is currently working on a second volume 'Vaderland' - about her years after she met her prince.
Did she really give permission for her friends and associates to talk to the author? That strikes me as a rather odd thing to do. So the book is really an authorized biography then- one the Queen might as well have proof read to ensure accuracy of the information.
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Did she really give permission for her friends and associates to talk to the author? That strikes me as a rather odd thing to do. So the book is really an authorized biography then- one the Queen might as well have proof read to ensure accuracy of the information.
That is my doubt too. I very much doubt Máxima would have "authorized" anything for that book.
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Old 05-24-2021, 09:48 AM
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That is my doubt too. I very much doubt Máxima would have "authorized" anything for that book.
According to her recent interview she did not authorize the book in that sense (that was probably the wrong word on my part) nor read it it advance (and isn't planning to read it now it's published either) but she did allow people close to her to talk to the author.
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I think even "allow" is a too big word. My guess is: via her network Queen Máxima knew someone with the name Marcia Luijten was apparently trying to make contacts with family, friends, former colleagues, former shoolmates, etc.

So Queen Máxima was aware. More or less in the sense of her brothers Martín and Juan texting her: "Hey sister, there is someone from the Netherlands approaching us for a book ? Is this serious ?"
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