Princess Máxima Visits Argentina: December 4-7, 2005

[Maxie]

Originally Posted by Silvermj

You are most welcome! :)

Just one final explanation: K. is how colloquially we call our president.

I already figured something like that out. We call our prime minister J-P (because his name's Jan-Peter)... An universal thing, I guess?

[Lillia]

Originally Posted by carlota

i just found this other video of the conference in the university, where you can hear maxima saying her spech :)

video from tn24horas

http://www.tn24horas.com/popup_metaf...0&Id_calidad=1

Interesting.

I like Maxima but, IMO, she needs to invest in a few hairclips. Her advisors should be aware that when so much of her hair falls in her face, so frequently, especially when she's taking pictures or giving speeches, it can be very distracting and it may look a little bit strange.

I wonder why she didn't seem to use any hairclips? She's worn her hair in that manner for some time now...:p

[Danielle]

Thanks everyone for posting photos/information regarding Crown Princess Maxima's trip. I've been really impressed with all of her outfits (especially all of the skirts) She just looks wonderful, and I love her hair. It was nice before, but I prefer it at this length. It must be nice for her to revisit her homeland.

Originally Posted by Lillia

I like Maxima but, IMO, she needs to invest in a few hairclips. Her advisors should be aware that when so much of her hair falls in her face, so frequently, especially when she's taking pictures or giving speeches, it can be very distracting and it may look a little bit strange.

I agree about the hair-clips from watching the video. By the end of it though, her hair managed to stay in the right place. :p

[Marengo]

As the trip is over now I must say that I am quite impressed by the dedication and energy the princess has for this subject. I do not think she considers it as a hollow duty and I think she has done more then just giving some smiles and waves. Bravo Maxima!

[Silvermj]

Today's article at Hello Magazine Website:

http://hellomagazine.com/royalty/200...rincessmaxima/

[purple_platinum]

Originally Posted by Silvermj

Today's article at Hello Magazine Website:

http://hellomagazine.com/royalty/200...rincessmaxima/

i posted your article on Princess Amalia's thread, silvermj!
thanks for the heads up...

here is the link : http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/340939-post58.html

[Elise27]

Originally Posted by Silvermj

Sorry if I was not able to translate/transmit it properly. I am Argentine, born here, lived my whole life here and I did not find her answer agressive or irrespectful, nor that she was saying it was an accident that she was born here or that her adoptive country was more important in her heart than her native one.

Probably, it has to do with the way and the reasons the question was made and I took for granted you would infer them. My mistake.

As I said yesterday, a part of the press here despises her and tried, tried during her official visit, to provoke her. I am sorry I could not find the video of that conference on the net to post a link, but she was in Puerto Madero, in front of The Netherlands Embassy, explaining why the UN sent her here and explaining what her mission as UN advisor was, and since she keeps Argentina in her heart, she was glad this microcredits system was begining to help people improve here but one of the journalist wanted to lead her to express political opinions (explanation: these microcredits are against to what most politicians want here) and that she was not representing The Netherlands, etc. Most likely, to get a comment out of her that would provoke a non-polite comment from our President, who lately seems to be quarreling with everyone, from the Church, to foreign presidents and own ministers, who were forced to resign (including the Economy Minister. Felicia Miceli has only been our Economy Minister for one week, since our former one quitted last week).

I do not know how much are you all aware of the social/political situation of my country, or which questions are made by tabloid like reporters and with which second intentions.

Please do receive my apologies for taking for granted that you would infer it.

Thanks for the explanation. I understand situation better now.

[carlota]

oh, i know what you mean with her saying that with the comment of "since you are argentinian..". journalists can be quite cheeky sometimes. i also remember they asked her about the situation argentina is going through: she answered really politely "i'm sorry, but i prefer not to comment on that". arond this backgroud it's easy to understand why she said it. but as plain as it was in the article, someone can interpret she doesn't feel argentinian...

I do not think anyone can doubt how much she loves Argentina. But like Queen Sofia, Queen Silvia, Queen Noor, Princess Alexandra, Princess Mary, Grand Duchess Maria Teresa (among others, and please do correct me if I am mistaken), Maxima became a Dutch citizen due to her marriage to Prince Willem-Alexander.

She came here as the Princess of The Netherlands who is the UN advisor in the International Year of Microcredit. Of course, I am sure the UN representatives have chosen her over Queen Rania and Princess Mathilde, who are UN Emissaries in the IYOM, since she was born and is so popular here, facts that no doubt got her a broader press coverage.

Originally Posted by Silvermj

Yesterday, during that brief press conference -and I was able to watch that part- she was saying she was visiting our country as a UN advisor, and what she was doing as such, when a journalist told her "since you are Argentine....." which forced the princess to remind them what I expressed above: she came here as The Princess of The Netherlands, who is a UN advisor; that she is a Dutch princess who was born here.

I always say she is our best ambassador (I mean what a person born and raised here could achieve regarding education, kindness and politness) contrary to the usual image some Argentine people (politicians in particular) give foreigners of us, and now, she received my applause, because she is aware of the choices she made and is perfectly aware of her responsabilities and duties.

That added an "extra point" to the reasons I have to admire her so much.:)

i agree so much on that. to me, maxima is our best ambassador. many argentinians are known in the world, but practically all of them are sportsmen and women (at least the ones most of the people know, there are a lot more, but you really need to be into it to know them). maxima was a blessing for all of us. so many people around the world have bad images of us, as practically of all south america, and it's good to have a person who is known around the world and is argentinian who represents as the best way possible. maxima really does her job perfectly. i think all argentinians should be proud of her and of the image she gives...

[pollyemma]

personally, I was thrilled to read her 'I'm not argentinian'comment. seeing how happy and well received she was in Argentina I was beginning to fear
that she might have second thoughts about the tiny, rainy country she now represents.

this is a load off my mind!

[Princess Maxima]

Originally Posted by carlota

oh, i know what you mean with her saying that with the comment of "since you are argentinian..". journalists can be quite cheeky sometimes. i also remember they asked her about the situation argentina is going through: she answered really politely "i'm sorry, but i prefer not to comment on that". arond this backgroud it's easy to understand why she said it. but as plain as it was in the article, someone can interpret she doesn't feel argentinian...





i agree so much on that. to me, maxima is our best ambassador. many argentinians are known in the world, but practically all of them are sportsmen and women (at least the ones most of the people know, there are a lot more, but you really need to be into it to know them). maxima was a blessing for all of us. so many people around the world have bad images of us, as practically of all south america, and it's good to have a person who is known around the world and is argentinian who represents as the best way possible. maxima really does her job perfectly. i think all argentinians should be proud of her and of the image she gives...

Totally agree with you.
Máxima is our best ambassador :)

[Silvermj]

Originally Posted by purple_platinum

i posted your article on Princess Amalia's thread, silvermj!
thanks for the heads up...

here is the link : http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/340939-post58.html

Thank you, Purple_platinum!!!!!!:)

Originally Posted by carlota

it's good to have a person who is known around the world and is argentinian who represents as the best way possible. maxima really does her job perfectly. i think all argentinians should be proud of her and of the image she gives...

Indeed!!!!!:)

Originally Posted by Elise27

Thanks for the explanation. I understand situation better now.

You are welcome!!!:) I am glad I was able to explain it clearer.

Originally Posted by pollyemma

personally, I was thrilled to read her 'I'm not argentinian'comment.

Actually, she said she was a Dutch princess that was born here. I would not have liked her saying "I'm not Argentine". I (like everybody else here) would have considered it extremely rude.

On the other hand -I base my opinion on her pictures and videos-, it is undeniable Maxima loves her new country as much as she loves her native one, not matter the size or weather.

Furthermore, she has three "anchors" that would keep her there forever: her husband and her two lovely daughters. (I know, the hopeless romantic here!!!!! :) )

[purple_platinum]

big ones from NOS without watermarks

Day 4

[purple_platinum]

still from NOS without watermark

Day 3

[ardilla]

Originally Posted by Silvermj

Sorry if I was not able to translate/transmit it properly. I am Argentine, born here, lived my whole life here and I did not find her answer agressive or irrespectful, nor that she was saying it was an accident that she was born here or that her adoptive country was more important in her heart than her native one.

Probably, it has to do with the way and the reasons the question was made and I took for granted you would infer them. My mistake.

As I said yesterday, a part of the press here despises her and tried, tried during her official visit, to provoke her. I am sorry I could not find the video of that conference on the net to post a link, but she was in Puerto Madero, in front of The Netherlands Embassy, explaining why the UN sent her here and explaining what her mission as UN advisor was, and since she keeps Argentina in her heart, she was glad this microcredits system was begining to help people improve here but one of the journalist wanted to lead her to express political opinions (explanation: these microcredits are against to what most politicians want here) and that she was not representing The Netherlands, etc. Most likely, to get a comment out of her that would provoke a non-polite comment from our President, who lately seems to be quarreling with everyone, from the Church, to foreign presidents and own ministers, who were forced to resign (including the Economy Minister. Felicia Miceli has only been our Economy Minister for one week, since our former one quitted last week).

I do not know how much are you all aware of the social/political situation of my country, or which questions are made by tabloid like reporters and with which second intentions.

Please do receive my apologies for taking for granted that you would infer it.

I´m also from Argentina, I saw the video tape, and understood it properly I believe;
And excuse me but I didn´t like what she said, it was like she was looking at us from the top of hill!!!!
for god sake she only live there for what? maybe 4 years in february!!!

Argentina is maybe somewhere in my heart!!!!!!! come on!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Watcher]

According a Spanish member of BRMB (manuel) she said:"I am from Holland (soy holandesa) and a Princess of Holland (una Princesa de Holanda), although I was born in this country and I will always have it in my heart"

A diplomatic answer I think. The people from The Netherlands would not be happy if she told the journalists that she is still argentinian in first place. She is going to be the Dutch Queen, so The Netherlands should be her country now.

[melissajames]

Originally Posted by ardilla

I´m also from Argentina, I saw the video tape, and understood it properly I believe;
And excuse me but I didn´t like what she said, it was like she was looking at us from the top of hill!!!!
for god sake she only live there for what? maybe 4 years in february!!!

Argentina is maybe somewhere in my heart!!!!!!! come on!!!!!!!!!!!

I do feel sorry for her though because this is exactly the kind of thing that she can not speak from her heart. :(
I can't imagine a person being born and bred in one country would be asheme of her homeland. And if she did not like Argentina, why did she visit?

As much as she misses Argentina, it would be a pr disaster if she said "I love this country" because she is there in the capacity of the Dutch crown princess, not as Maxima the free woman that she use to be.

[ardilla]

Originally Posted by melissajames

I do feel sorry for her though because this is exactly the kind of thing that she can not speak from her heart. :(
I can't imagine a person being born and bred in one country would be asheme of her homeland. And if she did not like Argentina, why did she visit?

As much as she misses Argentina, it would be a pr disaster if she said "I love this country" because she is there in the capacity of the Dutch crown princess, not as Maxima the free woman that she use to be.

She didn´t need to say I´m not argentinian I´m a dutch princess and Argentina is maybe somewhere in my heart!!!!
she didn´t say I will always have it in heart!
I never heard or read Mary saying that or Sofia or María Teresa or Silvia or any of them, It sounded like a rejection to me, and believe me cause I heard her speaking in her mother toungue.

[The Watcher]

Originally Posted by ardilla

She didn´t need to say I´m not argentinian I´m a dutch princess and Argentina is maybe somewhere in my heart!!!!
she didn´t say I will always have it in heart!
I never heard or read Mary saying that or Sofia or María Teresa or Silvia or any of them, It sounded like a rejection to me, and believe me cause I heard her speaking in her mother toungue.

The press asked it.

Is the video online?

[seto]

What exactly did she say to the the question and what was the question exactly.

[p.p.p.]

There are some new pics at http://argenpress.com/
can someone post them???

Many THANKS!!!