Máxima in the Argentinian Media

[Marengo]

An article by La Nacion on Luque and a mother of the Plaza del Mayo's meeting with princess Maxima and the prince of Orange. Apparently Maxima is a fan of soccorclub Ajax while Willem-Alexander supports Feyenoord. Maxima is also a supporter of Maradona's old club Boca Juniors.

Mundial ´78: el té con la princesa Máxima - lanacion.com

 

[Verde Esmeralda]

An article by La Nacion on Luque and a mother of the Plaza del Mayo's meeting with princess Maxima and the prince of Orange. Apparently Maxima is a fan of soccorclub Ajax while Willem-Alexander supports Feyenoord. Maxima is also a supporter of Maradona's old club Boca Juniors.

Mundial ´78: el té con la princesa Máxima - lanacion.com

And Willem Alexander supports River Plate, says the article (River is Boca's traditional opposite team).

Both the football player and the mother met Máxima at their residence on November 24th. They brought her a copy of a book that talks about the 1978 World Football Cup and the military regime in Argentina, from a Dutch perspective.

In the article, it says that the Mother told Máxima that it had been difficult at first for her to dissociate the story of the Princess from her father's, and that they intended Máxima to "read that book to her children in the future, so to make them understand what had been going on."

 

[Empress Merel]

I was wondering; Was the wedding of the Maxima and Willem-Alexander broadcasted on tv in or in the magazines in Argentina a lot?

But it's the other way around Verde Esmeralda; W-A is an Ajax-supporter and Maxima has the most sympathy with Feyenoord.
Fools, they still don't know that the only club in NL is PSV

 

[Marengo]

I am not sure what this article from la Nacion says but I believe they have a flavour of icecream inspired by Princess Maxima:

Los Scannapieco son de los que más experimentaron en materia de sabores. A partir de febrero ofrece uno de uva chinche y mandarina criolla. Mate cocido, tomate, batata, membrillo, arroz con leche y ricotella son otras de las variedades que alguna vez ofreció. "No tuvieron mucho éxito y el cliente siempre tiene la razón", sentenció Emilio. Los que sí se pueden conseguir son los hechos en homenaje a Mozart, Piazzolla y Máxima Zorreguieta.

Entire article here.

 

[Princess Maxima]

I am not sure what this article from la Nacion says but I believe they have a flavour of icecream inspired by Princess Maxima:



Entire article here.

Yes, you are right. There are also flavours insipred in Piazzolla, Mozart, Maradona, etc.

 

[sgl]

I am not sure what this article from la Nacion says but I believe they have a flavour of icecream inspired by Princess Maxima:



Entire article here.

Apparently, ice cream is very popular in Argentina. The article is highlighting a local ice-cream maker. The authors discuss the amount of ice cream consumed by Argentines each year. Even though ice cream is available by delivery or in stores, Argentines still like to go to the ice cream parlor.

This particular ice cream maker offers some unusual flavors, such as mate, tomato, potato, quince, etc. Maxima has inspired a flavor, but the authors decline to state what exactly that flavor is.

Sorry if I missed anything. My Spanish isn't the greatest these days.

 

[Verde Esmeralda]

Indeed, ice-cream (not the industrial one, but the "artesanal" one, made by each ice cream parlor with fresh ingredients) is a cult here. The way the guy shapes it before it is handled to you is incredibly amusing to see...

As sgl correctly says, the article doesnt state what the "Máxima" flavor tastes like. Just for fun, I phoned the ice cream parlor and they said they don't manufacture it anymore...

 

[Blog Real]

Princess Alexia on the cover of the ¡Hola! Argentina.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCDzKERpMoe/

 

[ashelen]

Princess Alexia on the cover of the ¡Hola! Argentina.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCDzKERpMoe/

the article mention that a few days ago it was a photo of her with a cigarettes' in her hands, but it did not last long in the media.

 

[Marengo]

That is an awful photo of the Princess.

There is a photo online of the princess & friends where two cigarettes can be seen. The main websites have removed the photo. It seems the king and queen are in for a lot of trouble to keep the princess off social media.

 

[Tatiana Maria]

There is a photo online of the princess & friends where two cigarettes can be seen. The main websites have removed the photo.

Were they asked to do so by the royal household?

 

[Somebody]

That is an awful photo of the Princess.

There is a photo online of the princess & friends where two cigarettes can be seen. The main websites have removed the photo. It seems the king and queen are in for a lot of trouble to keep the princess off social media.

I don't like it either. And I guess, Alexia herself isn't happy about it either, as she seems rather well-aware of her image.

 

[Susan D]

Princess Alexia's photograph is awful. I agree with the above critics.

 

[Moonmaiden23]

Isn't she the one who was born with some type of respiratory problem and has been hospitalized several times...or is it the youngest one?

 

[JR76]

I hate how both the media and the public are creating a picture of Princess Alexia as a rebel, as a heartbreaker etc... Let the girl be what she wants instead of forcing a narrative on her. That didn't work well for Stephanie, Madeleine, Harry and several more

 

[Somebody]

Isn't she the one who was born with some type of respiratory problem and has been hospitalized several times...or is it the youngest one?

That's princess Ariane (the youngest).

 

[HereditaryPrincess]

I hate how both the media and the public are creating a picture of Princess Alexia as a rebel, as a heartbreaker etc... Let the girl be what she wants instead of forcing a narrative on her. That didn't work well for Stephanie, Madeleine, Harry and several more

The media loves the "rebel princess" narrative and will use any little thing they can find to portray it.

 

[Alisa]

What is the legal age for smoking in the Netherlands?

I recall the newly married Princess Máxima being privately photographed smoking but I don't know if she has continued or if she stopped.

Hola! obviously chose the most unflattering photo of the young princess to sell their story of her being a rebel.

 

[Lee-Z]

What is the legal age for smoking in the Netherlands?

there is no minimum age for smoking.
For buying tobacco the minimum age is 18.

 

[HereditaryPrincess]

Interesting. I didn't know the Netherlands had no age limit on smoking. So if it's true Alexia smokes, it's not technically illegal in the Netherlands but it still doesn't give off a "princess" image and that's what the media seems to be playing up.

 

[Mbruno]

there is no minimum age for smoking.
For buying tobacco the minimum age is 18.

In other countries, people understand the "minimum age to buy tobacco" products as the same as a minimum age for smoking.



If Princess Alexia smokes, but she is not old enough to buy tobacco, then I assume someone is illegally supplying her cigarettes or whatever tobacco product she uses.



Unfortunately, smoking is very common among European royals, including, surprisingly, the younger generations. I use the word "surprising" because, in America, smoking tobacco is not really common among teens anymore although vaping is quickly becoming a pandemic and cannabis is also quite popular.

 

[Blog Real]

In Portugal also the minimum age to buy tobacco I think is at 18 years.
But anyone before that age can smoke, if they can somehow get cigarettes.
Despite all the campaign that exists for young people not to start smoking, many young people still start smoking and at very young ages.
In previous generations, of the people who are now about 30 years old (my generation) it was normal for young people to start smoking very early, and that is happening again. People seem to have no notion of the harm that tobacco does.

 

[Lee-Z]

Smoking is discouraged in the Netherlands as well: commercials for smoking aren't allowed, in stores tobacco can't be visible for sale (so locked in a cabinet or something).
But just to be clear, P.Alexia isn't doing anything *illegal* by smoking in this country.

 

[Duc_et_Pair]

In other countries, people understand the "minimum age to buy tobacco" products as the same as a minimum age for smoking.



If Princess Alexia smokes, but she is not old enough to buy tobacco, then I assume someone is illegally supplying her cigarettes or whatever tobacco product she uses.



Unfortunately, smoking is very common among European royals, including, surprisingly, the younger generations. I use the word "surprising" because, in America, smoking tobacco is not really common among teens anymore although vaping is quickly becoming a pandemic and cannabis is also quite popular.

The smoking policy is the same as drinking: purchase under 18 is not allowed but it is not illegal to smoke or drink at 16. In contrary to portrayals in American media of Europe being under a suffocating socialist dictatorship rule without any freedoms and liberties left, in the end anyone has an individual choice and an own responsibility.

 

[JessRulz]

Smoking is discouraged in the Netherlands as well: commercials for smoking aren't allowed, in stores tobacco can't be visible for sale (so locked in a cabinet or something).
But just to be clear, P.Alexia isn't doing anything *illegal* by smoking in this country.

Would there be consequences for the person supplying cigarettes to someone under 18? It is the same in Victoria, in that while it is not *illegal* to smoke when under 18, if someone is caught purchasing for or supplying cigarettes to someone underage, they will be fined.

 

[Mbruno]

The smoking policy is the same as drinking: purchase under 18 is not allowed but it is not illegal to smoke or drink at 16. In contrary to portrayals in American media of Europe being under a suffocating socialist dictatorship rule without any freedoms and liberties left, in the end anyone has an individual choice and an own responsibility.

I never said it was illegal for her to smoke. I said it was illegal for her to buy cigarettes or, equivalently, for someone to sell her cigarettes without first verifying that she is over 18. The same is true in the US: tobacco is not a banned substance for people of any age, but there are strict regulations about selling or suppying tobacco (or alcohol for that matter) to minors.

 

[Lee-Z]

Would there be consequences for the person supplying cigarettes to someone under 18? It is the same in Victoria, in that while it is not *illegal* to smoke when under 18, if someone is caught purchasing for or supplying cigarettes to someone underage, they will be fined.

https://www.rokeninfo.nl/wet/sigaretten-verkoop-voor-minderjarige

"Whoever buys the tobacco for a younger person is not punishable. However, if the seller can know that they are for a young person under the age of 18, he must refuse to sell. Otherwise he is punishable."

so it's the seller who runs the risk of punishment, not the buyer.

 

[Mbruno]

https://www.rokeninfo.nl/wet/sigaretten-verkoop-voor-minderjarige

"Whoever buys the tobacco for a younger person is not punishable. However, if the seller can know that they are for a young person under the age of 18, he must refuse to sell. Otherwise he is punishable."

so it's the seller who runs the risk of punishment, not the buyer.

Do you think Alexia buys her cigarettes (assuming she smokes) directly from vendors, in which case the seller is punishable (since he/she is selling to someone who he/she clearly knows is under 18) or does someone else buy them for her, in which case the seller may not be punishable (as he/she has no way to know whom the cigarettes are intended for), but there is at least an ethical (if not legal) issue involved with the intermediate as he/she is initentionally and consciously trying to circumvent the law ?



By the way, again, that is similar I guess to what happens in the States; the seller, not the underage buyer, is the one who is punished/fined. The only difference is that a third-party that operates as an intermediate/ supplier to the minor (even for free) is also punishable, I think, in most states if he does so intentionally (or at least I think he is; I am not a lawyer).



It would be a bigger embarassment if it turns out that someone inside the Royal Household is the supplier. I think that used to happen in the case of the Prince of Wales' sons, who also got cigarettes from Royal Household staff (long-term royal watchers may confirm that; I didn't follow them when they were kids).


Maybe the mods could please move this discussion to "Royals who smoke".

 

[Lee-Z]

personally i don't really care where she or her friends get their cigarettes (for all we know they nick their parents' stash) and i don't care if she smokes

like my dad always said to me when i was a teen "you are the one who decides to take up smoking, it'd be pretty stupid if you did, but it's your decision"
(he smoked since he was 13 and quit cold turkey at 75)

(please note that in this country smoking weed also isn't illegal )

 

[Duc_et_Pair]

Many teenagers have a period of experimenting with smoking, using soft drugs and drinking. None of all this is illegal in the Netherlands. Every adolescent will know where mum and dad keep the booze, the fag and the pot.