Hudson 400th - WA and Máxima's Official Visit to New York: September 8-13, 2009

[ashelen]

I belive Maxima has a graduate degree in economics

[lucien]

Originally Posted by ashelen

I belive Maxima has a graduate degree in economics

It's all here,and I am glad Hyacint had the mercy and kindness to comply with the level of education of TRH as opposed to chèr Michelle,
such a relief...

Máxima

The Dutch Royal House

Alexander

The Dutch Royal House

Originally Posted by sgl

I would like to hear more about the breakfast meeting where the Dutch and Americans discuss their experiences in trading jobs for a week (by the way, if any of the Dutch members would like to trade jobs with this American for a week, I would happily comply ).

The Prince and Princess both were very impressed with the Job Swap initiative.
AO,a teacher,a midwife and a fireman "went swapping" in New York City,while the reverse takes place this week.
Didn't get to "squeeze" more out of it then this,yet,but it shows the diversity of what is swapped jobwise I think.

[lucien]

Have not heard anyone about it yet,but did you see the flowers,the roses,Máxima received on sunday in NYC?
They had the names and portraits of the children on 'm.

[DNF] Fotoarchief Denieuwsfoto

[DNF] Fotoarchief Denieuwsfoto


As if they needed that to long for home...grin....


Pics on the RH website:

http://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/content.jsp?objectid=30018

[susan alicia]

Maxima has graduated at the Universidad Católica Argentina and Michelle Obama has graduated at Princeton and Harvard Law School which are either on their own superior schools.
Maxima would find it very easy to acknowledge that Michelle has a greater academic background and is the more intellectual of the two of them.

Originally Posted by lucien

It's all here,and I am glad Hyacint had the mercy and kindness to comply with the level of education of TRH as opposed to chèr Michelle,
such a relief...

Máxima

The Dutch Royal House

Alexander

The Dutch Royal House






The Prince and Princess both were very impressed with the Job Swap initiative.
AO,a teacher,a midwife and a fireman "went swapping" in New York City,while the reverse takes place this week.
Didn't get to "squeeze" more out of it then this,yet,but it shows the diversity of what is swapped jobwise I think.

[lucien]

'course she would,allthough having studied longer doesn't automatically imply one is the more intellectual then the other.
It just implies both have attended,and finished,a higher education and make that to the best use in either specific situation.C'est ca.

I find this whole non-issue a nagging nonsense of sorts anyway

[marmi]

Perhaps we can move on from comparing the educations of Michelle Obama and Princess Maxima.
What relevance it had to the thread has been exhausted.

Thanks,
marmi
Dutch forum moderator

[queenofthelight]

When Maxima met the Obamas: Dutch royals spend whirlwind week in US - hellomagazine.com (14/09/2009).

[Turkish Delight]

News Summary Royalblog.nl: Obama asks Dutch royals about health care

Los PrÃ*ncipes de Orange, locos por el baile
Guillermo y Máxima de Holanda toman el té con los Obama
Guillermo y Máxima de Holanda retoman su agenda oficial con una visita oficial a la Gran Manzana

[Marengo]

From the NRC:

Dutch party draws mostly Dutch crowd in New York

Published: 14 September 2009 16:40 | Changed: 14 September 2009 16:41

The Dutch theatre festival that took place in New York over the weekend was meant to attract American visitors, but New Yorkers showed little interest.


The weather was against the New Island festival, one of the pillars of the so-called 'NY400' celebrations. On Friday, the second day of the out-doors festival the storm was so severe that all shows on Governors Island, an island in the New York harbour, had to be cancelled. More performances were called off on Saturday and Sunday when the Manhattan metro line that connects to the ferry was out of order because of maintenance.
But external factors aside, there was limited interest from New Yorkers, the target audience of the festivities. "We are doing it for the American audience; who else would we do it for?" festival director Henk Scholten had said in advance.

Read the entire article here.

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There has been some minor criticisms about the costs of the celebrations, 6 million euros. Among the problems are the costs of some mayors from the province of Friesland who wanted to travel there (for no good reason other than wanting a state paid trip abroad).

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And some showbiz problems: actress Halina Reijn says that she wasn't allowed to meet the prince of Orange and princess Máxima because she played the role of Mabel in a tv. series about the crisis around Mabel when she married into the RF. While the actress was ready to greet the royal couple, she was told it was too 'politically sensative' and asked to go away. The officias deny that such a request was ever made and say that Halina Reijn was never supposed to greet the crown princely couple in the first place (but some other actors were). The politically sensative comment seems rather bogus IMHO, nobody watched the programme in which Halina played Mabel, and nobody seemed to care either.

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Other criticism was more serious IMO, some blamed the Dutch organisation for completely ignoring the black page in the history of New Amsterdam: slavery.

[lucien]

It was not.Time and time again during the visit the Prince and Princess included the diversity and tolerance of all New Yorkers,
without naming each and every single colour or lack of it,they included all and everyone so no need to single out anyone especially.

But OK,it had some minor publicity generated and some in the lime-light for a sec aka minute of fame.Such things are to be expected here or there,there's always one or a group that demands to be singled out for one reason or another.And history is such that one can not change it nor turn it back.

Too bad that all happened centuries ago,well ofcourse,but you got to see it in the light of that time.What's the alternative?

[rubies]

It is such a shame that every time something is done in a good spirit there has to be some kind of critisism. I thought the visit seemed wonderful. I learned things I didn't know. Nothing is ever perfect and it seems there is always someone upset. The Prince and Princess of Orange did a great job and I wish I would have been in New York to enjoy it!! Bravo to them to be above ..it all!!

[lucien]

Originally Posted by rubies

It is such a shame that every time something is done in a good spirit there has to be some kind of critisism. I thought the visit seemed wonderful. I learned things I didn't know. Nothing is ever perfect and it seems there is always someone upset. The Prince and Princess of Orange did a great job and I wish I would have been in New York to enjoy it!! Bravo to them to be above ..it all!!

Thanks,my thoughts exactly rubies.

Btw,Royalblog only today had their pics of the total visit up

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/photos/india_in_beeld/

[RubyPrincess168]

Before New York — National Geographic Magazine
I'm not a National Geographic girl but this article was really fascinating! This guy (or team or people) recreated what Manhattan looked like 400 years ago.

[Marengo]

Originally Posted by lucien

It was not.Time and time again during the visit the Prince and Princess included the diversity and tolerance of all New Yorkers

Naming diversity and tolerance is one thing, naming slavery is another. I don't see how they 'cover' slavery by mentioning that NYC is diverse and tolerant. Neither do I understand why the foreign ministairy did not mention it this time in the speech of the PoO. Since they were celebrating that 400 years ago we started a colony there, it would have been relevant to remember that 400 years ago we introduced slavery there too, something which marked the USA for centuries and some could argue that it still does.

[lucien]

Originally Posted by lucien

without naming each and every single colour or lack of it,they included all and everyone so no need to single out anyone especially.

So,ask President Obama if he's arguing,if he ever did.Or ask the natives,the indians that were kulled from that time onwards,I didn't hear them.Ever.No specific group in general is to be singled out,nobody has that much time on their hands to name 'm all
No.No,it is just this one perticular black church in Harlem that wishes to be singled out and our press can't help themselves but blow that story up to more then it is meaning as if the whole of black america suddenly rose.They didn't.There's always that,a group or anyone who demands attention one way or another.I said that before already.I also asked what would the alternative be,even offered one.

[Marengo]

I wouldn't have minded the prince or any other dutch official mentioning the way the Indians were treated by the colonists too. Like the other settlements in America, the one of New Amsterdam also came with a price, a price paid by slaves and Indians mainly.

You are right that the reason why this received attention is because of the church in Harlem that felt neglected by the royal visit, which focussed on Manhatten.

[lucien]

Harlem is a neighbourhood in Manhattan north of Central Park.
The area had not as much to do with our first settlement there
as that it was included in the 60 guilders we payed for the whole of Manhattan.

If the blacks would have craved for so much attention,and if they hold history so dear,
then why didn't they restore the cemetary of the then slaves in their memory??Why not?
It's in shambles,in Manhattan,partly underneath a parking lot for Pete's sake,instead of complaining.
That would have put them on the map,then people would have payed attention.Not now.

[moos]

Hi, does anybody knows what kind of earrings Maxixma wears at the dj van Buuren show? She has them in different colors. White she's wearing there but also blue she was wearing at the photo session on the beach with the children.

[Turkish Delight]

Princess Maxima of the Netherlands Pictures - New York City Celebrates 400th Anniversary Of Dutch Discovery Of Manhattan - Zimbio

Originally Posted by moos

Hi, does anybody knows what kind of earrings Maxixma wears at the dj van Buuren show? She has them in different colors. White she's wearing there but also blue she was wearing at the photo session on the beach with the children.

Look at the 374th post.

[rubies]

Originally Posted by lucien

Harlem is a neighbourhood in Manhattan north of Central Park.
The area had not as much to do with our first settlement there
as that it was included in the 60 guilders we payed for the whole of Manhattan.

If the blacks would have craved for so much attention,and if they hold history so dear,
then why didn't they restore the cemetary of the then slaves in their memory??Why not?
It's in shambles,in Manhattan,partly underneath a parking lot for Pete's sake,instead of complaining.
That would have put them on the map,then people would have payed attention.Not now.

Thats right! don't EVEN get me started. I'm sure the people that were mad knew as much about Dutch history in New York as I did. Why not just learn. and be done with it!