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At the invitation of President Joko Widodo, King Willem-Alexander and Queen Maxima will pay a state visit to Indonesia in the week of 9 March 2020.
https://www.royal-house.nl/latest/ne...t-to-indonesia
The Program of the visit:
"At the invitation of President Joko Widodo, King Willem-Alexander and Queen Máxima will pay a state visit to the Republic of Indonesia from Tuesday 10 March to Friday 13 March 2020"
https://www.royal-house.nl/latest/ne...t-to-indonesia
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02-10-2020, 07:51 AM
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The State Visit will not have a gala banquet but a lunch, which is in line with standing practice under President Widodo.
This means: both the President and the King will make a public statement, 5 minutes maximum, after which there will be a lunch. No speeches during lunch and no press allowed.
It seems the Dutch Department of Foreign Affairs made no any problem, it even is seen as sort of handy by both countries, as a lunch without speeches avoids the King and the President to go to deep into Dutch colononial rule of the Netherlands East-Indies, now Indonesia (1609-1948).
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02-11-2020, 11:57 AM
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Smart moves.
It can also be seen to be in terrible taste if the country is having poverty issues to have the colonials come and visit with all their fancy clothes and expensive jewelry.
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02-11-2020, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Alisa
Smart moves.
It can also be seen to be in terrible taste if the country is having poverty issues to have the colonials come and visit with all their fancy clothes and expensive jewelry.
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Indonesia has more billionaires than the Netherlands and these are far more ostentatious in showing bling-bling than the average European rich. So that would never have been a problem. Look at Thailand, or Brunei, or Malaysia or Indonesian own royalty (the former reigning Sultans): crippling poverty paired with unbelievable wealth.
By the way: the King and Queen will visit the Sultan of Yogyakarta (the couple and their three daughters are befriended with the Sultan and his family) but also here only a lunch as the visit is a mid-day part of the overcrowded program.
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02-18-2020, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Alisa
Smart moves.
It can also be seen to be in terrible taste if the country is having poverty issues to have the colonials come and visit with all their fancy clothes and expensive jewelry.
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There was a tiara banquet though when Queen Beatrix last visited Indonesia, wasn’t there ?
Indonesia was really a missed opportunity for the Dutch: 350 years of colonial presence/rule that were certainly very profitable for Dutch businesses , but left no lasting cultural impact on the local population ( at least, nothing comparable to what we see in former British, Spanish, French and Portuguese colonies).
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03-09-2020, 07:51 AM
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This is not yet the State Visit, which begins tomorrow. The royal couple has one day for acclimatization and Máxima has an activity for the UN before the State Visit begins.
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03-09-2020, 12:59 PM
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An accident happened with a boat. Eight people are still missing. The visit will now be simplified.
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Eight missing after speedboat carrying Dutch royal visit advance team crashes in C. Kalimantan river
At least eight people are missing following a speedboat collision on the Sebangau River in Central Kalimantan involving members of an advance team preparing for a Dutch royal visit.
Foreign Ministry spokesman Teuku Faizasyah confirmed the incident on Monday.
The team was preparing for a visit by King Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands and his delegation to the Sebangau National Park near Palangkaraya in Central Kalimantan scheduled for Thursday. The national park is one of several places the Dutch king plans to visit during his four-day stay in the archipelago.
“The accident occurred when the boat owned by the area’s military command hit a boat owned by the Sebangau National Park that was sailing back from the Mangkok Resort,” Faizasyah said in a statement.
At least seven passengers aboard the Sebangau National Park’s boat and one passenger aboard the military command’s boat have reportedly gone missing.
“We’re still searching for them,” Faizasyah added.
Two staff members of the Dutch Embassy in Jakarta who were also involved in the accident have been taken to the Siloam Hospital in Palangkaraya.
Meanwhile, two officers from the National Sebangau Park have been taken to the Doris Sylvanus General Hospital in Palangkaraya.
“The government is following all developments regarding the accident and has taken the necessary measures in the field,” Faizasyah added.
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https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/...tan-river.html
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03-09-2020, 01:07 PM
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Dutch State Visit to Indonesia: March 10-13, 2020
Am i to understand that the people missing are Dutch?
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03-09-2020, 01:14 PM
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As I just understand that the people missing are Dutch?
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No, two officials of the Netherlands Embassy were hit and transported to the hospital. The two dead and eight missing persons are Indonesian (7 from the Shebangu Nature Reserve and 1 from the military command). A speedboat from the military command did hit a speedboat of the Shebangu Nature Reserve.
The Court has informed that the King and Queen are shocked and that events will be scaled down.
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03-09-2020, 01:17 PM
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No, two officials of the Netherlands Embassy were hit and transported to the hospital. The two dead and seven missing persons are Indonesian.
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Very very sad indeed. 
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03-09-2020, 01:23 PM
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Very sad news.
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Very sad new for the Sate Visit.
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03-09-2020, 04:17 PM
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Very very sad news for the royal visit.
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03-10-2020, 12:44 PM
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The King has offered his apologies for the use of excessive violence during the colonial war. It is something that Queen Beatrix already wanted to do during her state visit in the 90-ties but the government of the time did not allow her to do so.
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Dutch king apologises for ‘excessive violence’ during Indonesian independence war
King Willem-Alexander has apologised to Indonesia for the violent excesses by Dutch soldiers during the Indonesian independence war of 1945-49.The king, on his first official state visit to Indonesia, said in his speech that the past cannot be erased, and will have to be acknowledged by each generation in turn.
‘In line with earlier statements by my government, I would like to express my regret and apologise for excessive violence on the part of the Dutch in those years,’ the king said. ‘I do so in the full realisation that the pain and sorrow of the families affected continue to be felt today.’
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Read more at DutchNews.nl:
https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/0...ependence-war/
And an article from the Jakarta Post:
https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/...-violence.html
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The reviews are mixed. A group of Dutch people with Moluccan/ Indonesian roots are rather angry.
Michael Lentze, of the Dutch federation of people from the Dutch East Indies says he was 'unpleasantly surprised and deeply hurt' and added that 'our parents are turning around in their graves'. He points out that during the Bersiap violence 10.000s Mulukans, Dutch, Chinese, Europeans were raped, murdered and tortured.
https://www.ad.nl/binnenland/woede-b...ning~a9b49b8b/
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A spokesperson for a group representing people of the Southern Maluku Islands praised the apologies of the King but adds that he is still waiting for simular apologies to the people of this area from the Indonesian government.
https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/nede...-van-de-koning
War veterans are not happy with the apologies either. They feel like they have been treated like criminals by the Dutch state, a state that has sent them to fight in the Dutch East Indies on the state's behalf.
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The King used the Indonesian date for the independence in his speech, which was a first for a Dutch monarch.
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