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06-08-2018, 10:00 AM
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Poor Maxima! She looks like she is in absolute shock & disbelief. I hope the 3 young princesses are ok.
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06-08-2018, 10:29 AM
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06-08-2018, 10:46 AM
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I hope the family can mourn and say goodbye to Ines in peace. She was a private citizen after all.
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06-08-2018, 12:01 PM
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Poor Maxima! She looks like she is in absolute shock & disbelief. I hope the 3 young princesses are ok.
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That picture of Queen Máxima is from last year when she left the hospital after visiting her father.
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06-08-2018, 12:56 PM
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That picture of Queen Máxima is from last year when she left the hospital after visiting her father.
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Thank you for the correction. I certainly hope the media will giver her & her family space & privacy at this dreadful time.
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06-08-2018, 01:43 PM
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I think this time it's different, of course the death of Maxima's father was hard but there is a difference between an old and ill parent passing after having lived a full life (a fact that can be a great consolation) and a younger sister ending her own life due to depression, with family in the end unable to help.
I guess Inez' death will be much more devastating for Maxima and it will not be easy for her to live with it. I wonder if it will have an effect on her vibrant personality.
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06-08-2018, 04:36 PM
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Apparently the funeral will be today at 5 pm Argentinian time at the same grave yard as where her father is buried so in about half an hour. The Dutch part of the family arrived this morning (probably Maxima's brother Juan and sister-in-law Andrea travelled with them).
The king, queen and daughters will return to the Netherlands this weekend (either all on Saturday afternoon or the king on Saturday and Maxima and the girls on Sunday?), so the princesses will be back in school on Monday (or Tuesday) and the king is on time for his three statevisits the upcoming week.
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06-08-2018, 04:38 PM
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Oh gosh, such terrible and saddening news. Ines was far too young, but hopefully she is with comfort now. My thoughts and condolences are with Queen Maxima and her family during this tragic time. Maxima and Ines seem to have shared a fairly close relationship.
So much more needs to be done about mental health. There are too many people who believe that mental health isn’t an issue or if it is, should just be kept quiet about. But I reckon that if everyone who suffered from mental health was able to speak up about their experiences, and share their stories with others, then there would be much less people suffering. Sometimes just the knowledge that there are others like you and others who can help is enough to get someone with depression through it.
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06-08-2018, 04:45 PM
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I don't think in this case the problem was that they didn't talk about it. Her problems were well-known by the family and apparently máxima and I assume other family members as well tried to help her in different ways.
Not that I think you were implying that but just wanted to provide some background information.
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06-08-2018, 04:47 PM
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I don't think in this case the problem was that they didn't talk about it. Her problems were well-known by the family and apparently Máxima and I assume other family members as well tried to help her in different ways.
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I know, I'm not insinuating that the family didn't try to help Ines, because the Zorreguietas seem to be quite close. As someone who suffers from depression myself; I'm just saying that sometimes that's all it takes for someone in this situation sometimes - to know that there are those out there who understands. Just a general comment, I wasn't criticising the family because I'm sure they did their best to help Ines.
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06-08-2018, 04:52 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that. Hope tou have people around who understand at those times.
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06-08-2018, 05:24 PM
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Inés in a video, poster by her (and Máxima's) youngest brother Martín.
https://www.nu.nl/buitenland/5305037...in-maxima.html
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Oh gosh, such terrible and saddening news. Ines was far too young, but hopefully she is with comfort now. My thoughts and condolences are with Queen Maxima and her family during this tragic time. Maxima and Ines seem to have shared a fairly close relationship.
So much more needs to be done about mental health. There are too many people who believe that mental health isn’t an issue or if it is, should just be kept quiet about. But I reckon that if everyone who suffered from mental health was able to speak up about their experiences, and share their stories with others, then there would be much less people suffering. Sometimes just the knowledge that there are others like you and others who can help is enough to get someone with depression through it.
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It seems that the family in Argentina as well in the Netherlands cared about the wellbeing of Inés. That is probably why María del Carmen (the mother) was alarmed when Inés did not respond on her calls earlier that day.
It seems that Queen Máxima has offered Inés to live in the Netherlands. But apparently Inés turned down that offer. She seems to have been in the Netherlands quite often.
It will not have been a secret at all. The King's late father had severe depressions and was admitted into psychiatric clinics in Germany. The late Prince Claus never healed. He told about it. The "soul pain" is terrible, sometimes unbearable even, the Prince told in a tv interview.
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06-08-2018, 05:49 PM
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Martín is the second of four in Jorge's second marriage. The order of siblings is: Máxima, Martín, Juan and Inés.
On Martín's Instagram another picture of the two of them jumping off a cliff can be found.
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It seems that the family in Argentina as well in the Netherlands cared about the wellbeing of Inés. That is probably why María del Carmen (the mother) was alarmed when Inés did not respond on her calls earlier that day.
It seems that Queen Máxima has offered Inés to live in the Netherlands. But apparently Inés turned down that offer. She seems to have been in the Netherlands quite often.
It will not have been a secret at all. The King's late father had severe depressions and was admitted into psychiatric clinics in Germany. The late Prince Claus never healed. He told about it. The "soul pain" is terrible, sometimes unbearable even, the Prince told in a tv interview.
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It seems that you missed my post, but to stress again:
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I know, I'm not insinuating that the family didn't try to help Ines, because the Zorreguietas seem to be quite close. As someone who suffers from depression myself; I'm just saying that sometimes that's all it takes for someone in this situation sometimes - to know that there are those out there who understands. Just a general comment, I wasn't criticising the family because I'm sure they did their best to help Ines.
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According to this article (in Spanish), Inés siblings and her three nieces sang a song by Bob Marley and the song 'Knockin' on Heaven's Door' by Bob Dylan at their sister/aunt's funeral this afternoon. The first lady of Argentina and designer Benito Fernandez (who told the above) were present among the family and friends of Inés.
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06-08-2018, 08:43 PM
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According to this article (in Spanish), Inés siblings and her three nieces sang a song by Bob Marley and the song 'Knockin' on Heaven's Door' by Bob Dylan at their sister/aunt's funeral this afternoon. The first lady of Argentina and designer Benito Fernandez (who told the above) were present among the family and friends of Inés.
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What a lovely thing to do. Not sure i would have the composure to even attempt this. Is there any practical reason why funerals take place so soon in Argentina. I know Máximas father’s was also arranged quickly. In England, there can be a week or two before it happens and this prolongs the agony in my opinion. Saying a final goodbye means you can then deal with your grief.
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06-08-2018, 08:55 PM
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What a lovely thing to do. Not sure i would have the composure to even attempt this. Is there any practical reason why funerals take place so soon in Argentina. I know Máximas father’s was also arranged quickly. In England, there can be a week or two before it happens and this prolongs the agony in my opinion. Saying a final goodbye means you can then deal with your grief.
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I read somewhere that the funeral needs to take place within 48 hours according to Argentinian law. In Máxima's father's case they had to apply for an extension.
In the Netherlands at least 36 hours need to have passed before the funeral or cremation can take place; and at the latest it should be on the 6th business day. In practice, about 5 (normal) days seems quite common.
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06-08-2018, 10:04 PM
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How unpleasant for Queen Maxima. May the dear Lord bless Ines.
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