That is interesting, that Crown Prince Haakon publicly supported his father in regard to his request (is Haakon similarly religious?) and that the King was asked to make his opinion known by a government minister (who must have known the approximate answer he could expect from King Harald. Perhaps those in the government who favored maintaining Article 4 wanted the agreement of the popular king).
Not publicly, but The King said this in a TV-interview in connection with his Silver Jubilee in 2016:
Q. Hvordan er det å velge for andre enn seg selv?
A. ''Det har blitt gjort så mye for meg, så det er da ikke noe problem,'' ler kongen.
''Nei, jeg snakket jo med dem. Kronprinsen sa at det ikke var noe problem for dem.''
Translated to:
Q. How is it to choose for others than yourself?
A. ''It has been done so much for me, so that is not a problem,'' laughs the King.
''No, I was talking to them. The Crown Prince said it was not a problem for them.''
(And yes, he concluded both sentences with the word ''them,'' so no wrongdoing on my part.)
Whether CP Haakon is ''religious'' is not known, I think. - Although CP MM is ''personlig kristen'' (personal Christian) and has previously said that her ''faith means very much'' to her.
Well, Culture/Church Minister Giske had (according to himself) several private meetings with The King, to inform him about the changes in the constitution (regarding the church).
And there was agreement between the then three government parties. I.e. The Labour Party and The Socialist Left Party (which both wanted to give the monarch total religious freedom) and The Centre Party (which favored maintaining Article 4) to consult him.
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As an addition to Royal Norway's reply, one of the complaints concerning Princess Märtha Louise's angel teachings was that it did not conform to the constitution as far as the King's religion was concerned.
Yes, the main criticism from several bishops/theologians was that her ''talk with angels and dead-people broke with Evangelical-Lutheran teachings.''
Although the chance of her becoming regent if something were to happen to The Crown Prince, is just getting tinier and tinier (a more reassuring word than ''smaller,'' I think), which have lead to come calls from within the church that she should relinquish her membership.
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As far as I understand, Märtha Louise is still a member of the Lutheran church, would that qualify as 'professing the Evangelical-Lutheran religion'? Would she need to give up all 'angel stuff' if she was ever called to the throne but other than that be fine or can she even keep it as long as she is also a member of the Lutheran church?
Your first question: Yes!
Your second question: Well, as you can read in post 12, the monarch doesn't longer have to uphold and protect the Evangelical-Lutheran religion. - Which again means that were she ''ever called to the throne'' (god help us), no, she wouldn't need to give up her ''angel-stuff'' (although it would've made her a VERY unpopular Queen regnant or regent, if she hadn't).
And to be a bit cynical, she would NEVER ever have been in the angel-business if she had received an apanage.
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What would a humanistic way look like? Do they affirm their believe in humanish? And are they admitted to the Humanistic society? Both seem far"-fetched but that would be a humanistic equivalent imo, so wonder what it really is. Just some kind of celebration of reaching a certain age (like the quincenera in Latin America)? Is there any preparation involved (comparable to a confirmation in the church)?
Short but very informative explanation in English from The Norwegian Humanist Association, just scroll down to the confirmation part and read (
link).
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It was supposedly the same in Sweden when church and state got (almost) separated in 2000 - the King made his will known that he wanted to keep the provisions in the Constitution about the Royal family having to be members of the Church of Sweden. I'm not sure if he's very religious, although his wife is, or it is more a question of tradition since he's quite conservative in these matters.
I've been to several Danish nonfirmations where kids who don't want a religious ceremony instead just have a big party.
King Harald, OTOH, has said that he defines himself as a Christian, although he has also been praised for his openness and understanding of other religions. ?