Marius Borg Hoiby - Discussions

[sm1939]

at the end of the day , its what people feel comfortable with .
weather its first name , sir , uncle . as long as every one is happy.

[bbb]

i love this kid, he seems such a cool young man. i don't think i could have stepped into his shoes and behaved so well without being "born to it". His parents and PH have reason to be very proud of him. Of course credit should be given MM for his excellent up bringing, thank goodness he wasn't a brat who was acting up and being a monster in front of cameras and everyone.

[Rebafan81]

I really like this little boy- he just seems like a happy well adjusted child. I love looking at new and old pictures of him. Looking at the baby pictures of Marius, SM really does resemble him and MM side of the family. I love the way CP HM talks about his boys being different from IA, and how as time goes by they will explain everything to them and help them understand. I have never heard him make a distinction between "his" kids and Mariius. Just about every picture shown of them together, they are either holding hands or Marius is hanging on HM. I think Marius is one lucky little boy and I think you can tell how happy he is by just watching him act like a normal 9 year old child.

[yin_yin_chen2001]

I agree with you Rebafan81. Marius is a luck boy.

[lise]

I agree with you Rebafan81. I don't think anyone could have said it better.

[monica]

http://s2.supload.com/free/untitled-...0718.bmp/view/

From Hola and www.nettavisen.no

[bbb]

http://hellomagazine.com/royalty/200.../princehaakon/

article about haakon teaching marius to wind surf. good photos

[Rebafan81]

Originally Posted by bbb

http://hellomagazine.com/royalty/200.../princehaakon/

article about haakon teaching marius to wind surf. good photos

Great Article, this is one of my favorite royal families. I love the relationship HM and Marius have developed. What a lucky family. Does anyone have any additional pictures of them together?
Thanks!!!

[lsme]

Originally Posted by Rebafan81

Great Pictures Larzen- Thanks for posting.
I think with lighter hair IA is really starting to look like her momma. She has always been my favorite royal child, but as she gets older she just gets prettier. I think she will a fantastic queen one day.
I love the picture with HM arm around Marius. It seems to me that they go a long way to make him feel like he is one of the family. God Bless them, they are a great role model.

Personally, I think the credit should go to Marius for being such a well behaved, loving child. Remember, he did not choose to be a "not official" member of the Royal Family. It was Mette Marit and Haakon's (and Morten Borg's, too) choice to put him into a position of being considered by many throughout the world and certainly in this forum as the social and (in some cases because of his parents failure to legitimize their union) moral inferior of his half-sister and half brothers. I agree, it is nice to see Haakon showing Marius a little bit of the public affection that he so readily shows Ingrid and Sverre. Usually in most photographs that get published of Haakon and Mette-Marit with all three children, Haakon appears to be somewhat distant from Marius while openly showing his affection for his and Mette-Marit's children. The positions that people take in photographs in relation to the other people in the photo are often very revealing of their relationship with that person.

[Alexandria]

Originally Posted by lsme

Personally, I think the credit should go to Marius for being such a well behaved, loving child. Remember, he did not choose to be a "not official" member of the Royal Family. It was Mette Marit and Haakon's (and Morten Borg's, too) choice to put him into a position of being considered by many throughout the world and certainly in this forum as the social and (in some cases because of his parents failure to legitimize their union) moral inferior of his half-sister and half brothers.

Actually it's no choice by Haakon, Mette-Marit or Morten Borg for Marius not to have a title. It simply isn't an option, period. Marius is the son of the Crown Princess but has no blood ties to the royal family -- ie. King Harald or Crown Prince Haakon. Combined with the fact that Norway does not have a nobility the way other monarchies do, Marius cannot even have a courtesy title.

Even Haakon's son is a HH rather than HRH, and Martha Louise's daughters do not have a title at all, nor does her husband have a courtesy title the way the Spanish Infantas' husbands have courtesy titles due to their marriage to the King's daughters.

And I've never seen anything from the Norwegian royal court or this forum that implies that Marius is a "social and moral" inferior to his half siblings Ingrid Alexandra and Sverre Magnus. Where have you seen such comments?

Originally Posted by lsme

I agree, it is nice to see Haakon showing Marius a little bit of the public affection that he so readily shows Ingrid and Sverre. Usually in most photographs that get published of Haakon and Mette-Marit with all three children, Haakon appears to be somewhat distant from Marius while openly showing his affection for his and Mette-Marit's children. The positions that people take in photographs in relation to the other people in the photo are often very revealing of their relationship with that person.

Actually Haakon is quite often publicly affectionate with Marius. During an Easter holiday when the family went to Italy with the King and Queen there were many pictures of Haakon kidding around with Marius while Mette-Marit pushed Ingrid Alexandra in her carriage, as well as recent pictures of Haakon teaching Marius water sports, as well as a very famous set of pictures one September when Haakon, Morten Borg and Mette-Marit all walked Marius to school on his first day. It was Haakon who was playing around with Marius rather than his dad. And while Mette-Marit and Haakon were dating there were many pictures of Haakon in the park with Mette-Marit and Marius riding his bike or Haakon taking Marius to the park to play soccer. For Haakon's 30th birthday there was a concert and Marius sat in Haakon's lap, not his mom's.

I don't think Haakon shows more affection for his (biological) children at all.

[kwanfan]

Originally Posted by lsme

Personally, I think the credit should go to Marius for being such a well behaved, loving child. Remember, he did not choose to be a "not official" member of the Royal Family. It was Mette Marit and Haakon's (and Morten Borg's, too) choice to put him into a position of being considered by many throughout the world and certainly in this forum as the social and (in some cases because of his parents failure to legitimize their union) moral inferior of his half-sister and half brothers. I agree, it is nice to see Haakon showing Marius a little bit of the public affection that he so readily shows Ingrid and Sverre. Usually in most photographs that get published of Haakon and Mette-Marit with all three children, Haakon appears to be somewhat distant from Marius while openly showing his affection for his and Mette-Marit's children. The positions that people take in photographs in relation to the other people in the photo are often very revealing of their relationship with that person.

I completely disagree with your statement that Haakon rarely shows Marius public affection. Here are some pictures
Sharing a chocolate bar at Holmenkollen
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...8&d=1142607018
Haakon along with Morten Borg attend Marius' ski competition
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...6&d=1142607018
Article about Haakon and Marius going wind surfing
http://hellomagazine.com/royalty/200.../princehaakon/
Haakon playing with Marius on the way to Marius' first day of school
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...3&d=1061223136
Haakon and Marius skiing together
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...4&d=1074450365
Haakon and Marius out walking together
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...3&d=1117296457
Haakon and Marius talking during the coronation celebrations
http://img40.imagevenue.com/img.php?...e=62716_18.jpg

[marezdote]

Originally Posted by lsme

Personally, I think the credit should go to Marius for being such a well behaved, loving child. Remember, he did not choose to be a "not official" member of the Royal Family. It was Mette Marit and Haakon's (and Morten Borg's, too) choice to put him into a position of being considered by many throughout the world and certainly in this forum as the social and (in some cases because of his parents failure to legitimize their union) moral inferior of his half-sister and half brothers. I agree, it is nice to see Haakon showing Marius a little bit of the public affection that he so readily shows Ingrid and Sverre. Usually in most photographs that get published of Haakon and Mette-Marit with all three children, Haakon appears to be somewhat distant from Marius while openly showing his affection for his and Mette-Marit's children. The positions that people take in photographs in relation to the other people in the photo are often very revealing of their relationship with that person.

Although I agree that Marius seems to be a "well behaved, loving child" I disagree about Haakon not showing him affection. In my opinoin Haakon always seems to give a lot of attention to Marius and in turn Marius seems to really enjoy his stepfather.

Even though Marius can not have a title I've always felt that the entire royal family considers him a part of their family. For example they always include him in their family Christmas pictures.

[Rebafan81]

Originally Posted by marezdote

Although I agree that Marius seems to be a "well behaved, loving child" I disagree about Haakon not showing him affection. In my opinoin Haakon always seems to give a lot of attention to Marius and in turn Marius seems to really enjoy his stepfather.

Even though Marius can not have a title I've always felt that the entire royal family considers him a part of their family. For example they always include him in their family Christmas pictures.

I agree with everyone about the relationship between Marius and HM. HM is always holding Marius's hand or playing around with him. I think they have a great relationship and even remember HM talking in one interview about how is was going to teach "his boys" that IA was different because she was the crown princess. I think he and everyone in the royal family have gone a long way in including Marius. I think in the pictures recently taken we don't see HM holding his hand as much because he is getting older and because they now have two small children who at this point in their lives need more attention. Clearly you can see the affection between the two when they talk to one another. I think MM, HM and the entire royal family should be commended in the way they have handled the situation and how they have blended the two families.

[sylla]

I also think the reason Haakon seems more into his children is because they are so small and require more handeling. But I also agree that Marius' situation is less than ideal. His mother, sister and brother are on the balcony but he is not. Not sure how I would feel.

[kwanfan]

Originally Posted by sylla

I also think the reason Haakon seems more into his children is because they are so small and require more handeling. But I also agree that Marius' situation is less than ideal. His mother, sister and brother are on the balcony but he is not. Not sure how I would feel.

I'm sure Marius is old enough that Mette-Marit and Haakon have explained the unique situation that he is in. Frankly, I doubt many 9 year old boys would want to stand on the balcony in the hot sun for hours. And IIRC the balcony on National Day is really the only royal event that the kids participate in where Marius does not participate. He was with the family viewing the children's parade on National Day, he has gone to Holmenkollen Ski Festival the past few years, and he was at the Coronation celebrations.

[grevinnan]

The reason he is not on the balcony is that he left to join his classmates in the parade and paraded in front of the royal family. He was with the royal family during the earlier events.

[sylla]

Well, for all we know, the future adult Marius may just be thrilled not to have been burdened with a title and royal responsibilities. And just being associated with the RF will open many doors for him, like they did for M-L when she struck out on her own. So you are right, we really shouldn't be too concerned about him feeling left out. And above all, he is loved by all involved and that really matters.

[ortino]

Marius (and this on the photographic record I have seen)has always gotten tons of love from Haakun. Does anyone remember the picture on this forum of the crown prince holding a tired Marius in his arms during his own wedding? But getting back to the discussion on the CP couples holidays: wow, Mette-Marit's hair is what I call Peroxide!!!

[Smilla]

Originally Posted by ortino

wow, Mette-Marit's hair is what I call Peroxide!!!

I guess it just gets bleached naturally in summer. My son's hair is exactly the same: much darker in winter, but almost white in summer - AND he's absolutely not using anything chemical to lighten his hair colour.

[Birgit Hansen]

Originally Posted by lsme

Personally, I think the credit should go to Marius for being such a well behaved, loving child. Remember, he did not choose to be a "not official" member of the Royal Family. It was Mette Marit and Haakon's (and Morten Borg's, too) choice to put him into a position of being considered by many throughout the world and certainly in this forum as the social and (in some cases because of his parents failure to legitimize their union) moral inferior of his half-sister and half brothers. I agree, it is nice to see Haakon showing Marius a little bit of the public affection that he so readily shows Ingrid and Sverre. Usually in most photographs that get published of Haakon and Mette-Marit with all three children, Haakon appears to be somewhat distant from Marius while openly showing his affection for his and Mette-Marit's children. The positions that people take in photographs in relation to the other people in the photo are often very revealing of their relationship with that person.

Isme, somehow it bothers me that you write that Marius, and i quote, are SOCIAL AND MORAL INFERIOR to his brother and sister.
In my part of the world, Scandinavia, about 50% of all newborn childern are born out of wedllock. I spend a number of years in the United States and it is a great country, but I often heard people condemd birth control and having sex before marriage - at the same time some schools had to establish child care in order to keep all the young mothers in school so they at least could earn a highschool degree.
Marius is NOT social and moral inferiour, he is a great kid as far as I can see, and I am confident that he has some really dedicated parents/stepparents. I am also sure that CP Haakon is a great role model to Marius an not the least to the thousands of other step fathers all over the world.