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01-18-2022, 02:30 PM
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It's good that the Royal House is being transparent about the fact that, whereas the princess legally comes of age this month, her effective coming of age as a working member of the royal house is still some years in the future.
There is some dissonance to releasing photographs of the princess seated in an office in a business suit to accompany the announcement that she will continue not to be a full-time worker. But I suppose that compared to a more traditional tiara portrait, it might reduce the focus on her clothes and appearance, something the Queen has criticized.
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01-18-2022, 02:49 PM
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And not just any office but, as the announcement stated, her own office... I don't recall either Elisabeth or Catharina-Amalia having been given their own office in the palace to work from... While they are heirs and Ingrid-Alexandra for the moment is still the heir to the heir.
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01-18-2022, 04:14 PM
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The pictures were taken in her office, because they accompany the announcement that she has received her own office at the Royal Palace ahead of her 18th birthday. I believe the other part is to clarify that, despite receiving the office, she will not to be a full-time royal yet due to her studies.
But nonetheless, I agree that getting her own office is a big deal!
The other intention of these pictures seems to be to show her as a future head of state and a serious person, dedicated to the duties that await her in the future. And I think it works because she pulls it off. It's quite admirable, because I don't think it's easy for an 18-year-old to look like a future head of state, yet she 100% does.  It's in her demeanor and confidence, I think.
The black pantsuit takes away that focus on clothes and looks, which Queen Sonja has discussed - I agree, Tatiana Maria. Though there will be Princess pictures with a tiara as well, when the delayed gala dinner takes place.
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01-18-2022, 05:02 PM
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The photographs are beautiful.
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01-18-2022, 06:05 PM
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I actually don't think the pantsuit worked, if the aim was to take focus off her looks — many of us here are simply talking about how pretty she is, anyway, and undoubtedly elsewhere.
I think IA overshot the mark, frankly; she could have worn any number of tasteful dresses, or at least a non-black suit, and not needed to appear like she was trying so hard or aiming for 36, not 18.
There's a fairly fine line between serious and decorative, and I hope for her sake she doesn't need to be so earnest for her entire public career.
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01-18-2022, 06:20 PM
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Ingrid Alexandra wears a suit and people goes bananas. When for example the Bourbon-Two Sicilies sisters wear short dresses people goes bananas over that.
How about letting young women wear what they want without passing judgement on them for it and imposing your own views about what's fitting or appropriate on them.
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01-18-2022, 07:11 PM
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The black suit looks absolutely fine. In fact, the blank canvas of her outfit only goes to highlight her exceptional beauty. She really is a natural beauty, however, she also has an aura of confidence and tranquility that is extraordinary. She really does come off as a future Queen of Norway.
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01-18-2022, 07:19 PM
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How about letting young women wear what they want without passing judgement on them for it and imposing your own views about what's fitting or appropriate on them.
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How about "That's what they do in private"?
When they're adults acting in the public sphere, we can pass the same kinds of judgment that go with every other aspect of royalty.
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01-18-2022, 07:53 PM
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I actually don't think the pantsuit worked, if the aim was to take focus off her looks — many of us here are simply talking about how pretty she is, anyway, and undoubtedly elsewhere.
I think IA overshot the mark, frankly; she could have worn any number of tasteful dresses, or at least a non-black suit, and not needed to appear like she was trying so hard or aiming for 36, not 18.
There's a fairly fine line between serious and decorative, and I hope for her sake she doesn't need to be so earnest for her entire public career.
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Sure, people are still saying that she is pretty, because she truly is exceptionally beautiful, but I feel like there really are fewer comments on her clothes this time.
I've noticed it happens occasionally that some of the young heiresses' clothes are considered too old for them. But I think it's much better to dress in a way where that happens from time to time than to have people to say: this is not appropriate for a future Queen.
Personally, I think it's a good outfit to present herself as future Queen in her new office. A nice dress would also have been, but I don't mind whether it's a pantsuit or a dress.
But there will be more outfits: her TV interview, her visits to Parliament etc on Thursday, her Birthday Reception on Friday and her Birthday Gala Dinner when Covid allows, which will be a tiara & ballgown appearance.
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01-18-2022, 11:35 PM
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Can someone translate the interview or provide a summary please?
I have mixed feelings on the photos. They are beautiful- I think she could have worn a potato sack and still look stunning.
However clothing and appearance are key elements for a public figure. Presenting an 18 y/o as a 36 y/o entrepreneur is not appealing. She is just 18. Perhaps if they presented other photos of her it would have been ok.
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01-19-2022, 07:21 AM
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She is extremely good looking !
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01-19-2022, 08:23 AM
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She is definitely the most beautiful Princess and future Queen Regnant in europe right now!
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I will wait two or three more years to pass judgment, but I feel it will be a close call between Ingrid Alexandra and the Princess of Asturias.
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01-19-2022, 10:16 AM
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Ingrid Alexandra wears a suit and people goes bananas. When for example the Bourbon-Two Sicilies sisters wear short dresses people goes bananas over that.
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Presumably your post is directed at least in part at mine, which was the first to mention the business suit. To be honest, I cannot see which part of it, or other posts in this thread, could be taken as "going bananas". (And, as you know, my only comment on the Bourbon-Two Sicilies dresses was that I saw nothing odd about them.)
I am in agreement with Queen Sonja that there is an excess of public focus on the clothes and looks of female royals and public persons. However, the present situation is that the standard dress codes imposed on European princesses (tiaras, dresses, jewels, etc.) are distinct from those imposed on European princes (suits). In my judgment, a decision to diverge from those standards is worthy of analysis for the same reason that the decision to install Ingrid Alexandra as heiress to a throne ahead of her brother is worthy of analysis because gender-equal succession is not the standard practice in monarchies. If at some future date, gender-equal succession and gender-equal dress codes become standard usage and no longer worthy of comment, I will welcome that.
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How about letting young women wear what they want without passing judgement on them for it and imposing your own views about what's fitting or appropriate on them.
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Certainly, and I don't believe "passing judgment" was the intent, although in situations like these, it is possible that Ingrid Alexandra's clothing choices were determined more by her parents or grandparents or an advisor or stylist than by what she personally wants. But why only young women and not older women, who are also subjected to public judgment for their clothing choices?
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01-19-2022, 10:23 AM
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The Palace released a little video today:
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Join Princess Ingrid Alexandra and the rest of the Crown Prince's family on a sunny dream day in the mountains.
On Friday, the Princess turns 18 and skiing is one of her great passions.
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01-19-2022, 10:58 AM
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I actually don't think the pantsuit worked, if the aim was to take focus off her looks — many of us here are simply talking about how pretty she is, anyway, and undoubtedly elsewhere.
I think IA overshot the mark, frankly; she could have worn any number of tasteful dresses, or at least a non-black suit, and not needed to appear like she was trying so hard or aiming for 36, not 18.
There's a fairly fine line between serious and decorative, and I hope for her sake she doesn't need to be so earnest for her entire public career.
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01-19-2022, 11:07 AM
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I will wait two or three more years to pass judgment, but I feel it will be a close call between Ingrid Alexandra and the Princess of Asturias.
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...and we still don´t know about Princess Estelle, who is also a cutie.
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01-19-2022, 11:32 AM
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Very nice video of the family. Beautiful location and they look like great skiers
https://youtu.be/TNS6fyH9vUU
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01-19-2022, 12:23 PM
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[QUOTE=polyesco;2448283]Very nice video of the family. Beautiful location and they look like great skiers
https://youtu.be/TNS6fyH9vUU[/QUOTE
Beautiful video. However, I have to ask -- and, I'm not trying to be antagonistic --- but, how does MM ski if she has COPD?
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01-19-2022, 12:24 PM
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I agree, great video of what looks to be a lovely family.
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01-19-2022, 02:43 PM
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And I love how they didn't edit out Ingrid-Alexandra's fall.
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Very nice video of the family. Beautiful location and they look like great skiers
https://youtu.be/TNS6fyH9vUU[/QUOTE
Beautiful video. However, I have to ask -- and, I'm not trying to be antagonistic --- but, how does MM ski if she has COPD?
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Mette Marit has pulmonary fibrosis which is not the same as COPD ( see this explanation).
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