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06-18-2022, 07:24 PM
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The Swedish speakers can answer your question, but my understanding, which may be wrong, is that, in modern Swedish, rather than using "You (formal)", it is more common to use 3rd person address in formal contexts. For example, when addressing the Crown Princess, one would say: "Is the Crown Princess looking forward to the jubilee celebrations next year?".
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The formal you -"ni" is used mainly by those younger than ca 45. For many of those older it's even considered rude since it both signifies a wish to maintain a distance and because it was historically used to address those below yourself on the social ladder. The fact that those younger who use it do so as a matter of showing respect makes for some challenging situations. Personally I detest being addressed by "ni".
The Royal family is said to accept the use in daily speech of royal titles as in your example above, but both the King and the Crown Princess have expressed a determination to uphold a respectful address in speech to their positions.
Crown Princess Victoria said in an interview many years ago that she preferred to be addressed with her title, but is nowadays often addressed by both her first name or by the informal you -"du" without reacting negatively. This, I believe, is because of her not wanting to make the person addressing her uncomfortable and because she's realised that different occasions warrants different protocols.
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06-18-2022, 08:11 PM
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The Royal Court did indeed publish an official English translation of its article on the dinner at the palace, but it seems they will not be translating the article on the government dinner at Deichman or the speeches from that evening.
https://www.royalcourt.no/aktuelt.ht...7678&sek=27262
The Court also published the three royal group photographs on its website with captions identifying the included guests.
https://www.royalcourt.no/nyhet.html...2629&sek=27262
https://www.kongehuset.no/nyhet.html...2629&sek=26939
Weirdly enough, both the Norwegian and English versions describe the first group photograph with Princess Ingrid Alexandra, the Princess of Orange, Princess Elisabeth of Belgium Duchess of Brabant, Princess Estelle of Sweden and Prince Charles of Luxembourg as " the five heirs to the throne taking part in tonight's celebrations", even though there were other heirs to thrones (Crown Prince Haakon first and foremost) who were guests that evening.
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The Royal family is said to accept the use in daily speech of royal titles as in your example above, but both the King and the Crown Princess have expressed a determination to uphold a respectful address in speech to their positions.
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What do they consider to be the respectful address for their positions?
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06-18-2022, 09:39 PM
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I don't necessarily accept that Queen Letizia didn't attend solely because of Marie-Chantal as they were together not so long ago at Prince Philip's service of Thanksgiving in London.
Princess Ingrid-Alexandra's 18th birthday gala, as glamorous as it might have been, is not an event to be attended by sovereign monarchs. Unsurprisingly, the royal couple of Sweden, the grand ducal couple of Luxembourg, the Queen of Denmark, and the King of the Belgians did not attend either. And there were no representatives of the British royal family. The crown princely couples of Denmark and Sweden were present because Frederik and Victoria are I-A's godparents and are also personal close friends of Haakon and MM.
I believe King Felipe VI also attended mostly as a godfather (otherwise I wouldn't expect the King of Spain to attend such a low-level event). It was a little bit odd, however, once Felipe had confirmed his presence, that his wife would not accompany him. I didn't quite get Mathilde attending alone either when her husband as expected did not, but that is not the first time (Mathilde was also solo at Carl Philip's wedding for example).
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Why would Letizia have a problem being around MC? I’m missing some backstory.
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06-18-2022, 10:24 PM
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Why would Letizia have a problem being around MC? I’m missing some backstory.
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Thanks for posting, I was wondering the same thing and would be interested to hear it.
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06-18-2022, 10:56 PM
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 You may read the previous pages of this thread and there were already some discussions occurred couples time.
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That's soooooo cute. Would be interesting if they reenact it when they all grow up  .
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06-19-2022, 03:08 AM
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Thanks for posting, I was wondering the same thing and would be interested to hear it.
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you find the back story here.
https://www.thelocal.es/20180404/rig...mother-in-law/
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06-19-2022, 02:38 PM
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The ongoing discussion about Queen Letizia and Crown Princess Marie Chantal has been removed as off topic. Please remain on topic of this thread. Thank you!
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06-19-2022, 06:20 PM
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The cakes from the midnight supper! They came from recipes from Dagny Haraldsen, Marit Tjessem, and Renate Høiby at IA's request. https://twitter.com/christinsqueens/...68uh4u5iW3Sd1w
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06-20-2022, 11:31 AM
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Does anyone have the photos from the other birthday party of Princess Ingrid-Alexandra?
The one attended by Crown Princess CA which was posted on Crown Princess CA fashion thread.
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06-20-2022, 12:29 PM
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Does anyone have the photos from the other birthday party of Princess Ingrid-Alexandra?
The one attended by Crown Princess CA which was posted on Crown Princess CA fashion thread.
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What was that? A private party for the young crowd only? Was it the day after the gala dinner perhaps?
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06-20-2022, 07:34 PM
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Does anyone have the photos from the other birthday party of Princess Ingrid-Alexandra?
The one attended by Crown Princess CA which was posted on Crown Princess CA fashion thread.
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I saw this on Instagram. It appears to have been an after party
https://www.instagram.com/p/CfBtm2wK...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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06-20-2022, 08:22 PM
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What was that? A private party for the young crowd only? Was it the day after the gala dinner perhaps?
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Haven't seen the picture but Amalia had an activity on Sunday (early) morning in The Hague, so I assume they traveled back on Saturday. Maybe it took place after the government dinner on Thursday? Or it was an after-party on Friday?
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06-21-2022, 05:20 AM
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Se og Hør writes that Ingrid Alexandra's boyfriend was also invited to the party. Se og Hør knows that they have been together for a long time.
The editor-in-chief also explains why they publish the news.
Prinsesse Ingrid Alexandras hemmelige kjæreste avslørt
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06-21-2022, 05:40 AM
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I do hope that the identity of the boyfriend remains private, it really is nobody's business.
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06-21-2022, 09:08 AM
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He is a very handsome young man(if the photo is correct) but I agree with muriel.
I hope the tabloid press will butt out and leave them in peace.
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06-21-2022, 09:21 AM
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He is a very handsome young man(if the photo is correct) but I agree with muriel.
I hope the tabloid press will butt out and leave them in peace.
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If he is indeed 22 and they have been dating for a while, then he was dating Ingrid Alexandra when she was still a minor, which is not a problem per se, but might raise some eyebrows.
Normally I would agree that the press should respect her private life, especially if it is just a teenage thing but, if the relationship is more serious than that, I think the public, as they say in the English-speaking countries, "has a right to know" and the press has "a duty to inform" considering that Ingrid-Alexandra is in direct line to the throne.
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06-21-2022, 09:23 AM
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Given her age, I doubt it's serious.
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06-21-2022, 11:56 AM
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Ingrid-Alexandra won't ascend to the throne for many many years. She is 18 and allowed a private life. It really is no one's business at this point who she is dating tbh. It is not like she is heading towards a marriage with this person at this. I truly hope she is left in peace and that this tabloid "press" don't start to hound her with telephoto lenses everywhere she goes.
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06-21-2022, 12:08 PM
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Given her age, I doubt it's serious.
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Maybe, maybe not. But I wouldn't automatically drag her age into it. I always find that a preconception, he/she is young so it's not serious. Love can be strong even when young. Time will tell in Ingrid Alexandra's case.
I was surprised to read that she apparently has a boyfriend at all - and apparently also for quite some time, if what this magazine says is true.
Again, time will tell.
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