Ingrid Alexandra ,Sverre Magnus and Marius: discussion 2006 - 2022

[eya]

Prince Sverre Magnus`s confirmation service will take place in Asker church, Saturday 5 September. After the confirmation service, a smaller, private dinner will be held at the Skaugum Estate.


https://www.kongehuset.no/artikkel.h...195&sek=112472

[Biri]

And when was Ingrid Alexandra confirmed? I don't remember.

[eya]

On 31 August 2019

https://www.theroyalforums.com/forum...9-a-46041.html

[Biri]

And because Ingrid Alexandra is the heir of the throne, there were never considered that she and her brother would have been confirmed together?

[kathia_sophia]

I wonder if Maxima and Pavlos will attend? Even though they are Sverre's godparents, the problem is the pandemic and the current travel restrictions.

[Tatiana Maria]

Originally Posted by Biri

And because Ingrid Alexandra is the heir of the throne, there were never considered that she and her brother would have been confirmed together?

Princess Ingrid Alexandra was confirmed in the Palace Chapel, not the local church in Asker. Apparently the Royal Family intends to make the same distinction between the heir and the sibling as they made in the previous generation. The christenings of Ingrid Alexandra and Sverre Magnus were differentiated as well with the former featuring many more guests from official Norway.

Royal Norway has put together a useful summary of other royal confirmations: Princess Ingrid Alexandra's confirmation: August 31, 2019

Originally Posted by ROYAL NORWAY

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Princess Märtha Louise on May 11th, 1986:

*Confirmed along with other confirmands in a private service in Asker Church (covering Asker municipality, where Skaugum is situated), although NTB (The Norwegian News Agency) was allowed in to take pictures. They also took official photos in Crown Princess Märtha's Drawing Room at Skaugum afterwards - plus some gala-pictures in The White Drawing Room at the palace in the evening (gallery-link).
*White-tie official gala-dinner at the palace in the evening, where the royal-procession was filmed by NRK (at least, that's what I've read). They were not allowed to cover the greetings/speeches.
No information whether some of it was photographed or not, but I can't remember seeing any photos.

Godparents: King Olav V of Norway (her paternal grandfather), Princess Ragnhild of Norway (her paternal aunt), Princess Margaretha of Denmark (her maternal great-aunt), Count Fleming of Rosenborg (her paternal first cousin once removed), Dagny Haraldsen (her maternal grandmother), Haakon Haraldsen (her maternal uncle), Nils Jørgen Astrup (businessman and friend of her father), and Ilmi Horn (born Riddervold, her mother’s childhood friend and maid of honour).

Known foreign royal guests: Not known to me.

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Prince Haakon Magnus on October 9th, 1988:

*Received his instructions with Asker Church congregation (which, as I wrote above, covers Asker municipality, where Skaugum is situated).
But confirmed alone in a service in The Palace Chapel, where NRK (The state-owned Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation) was allowed to film parts of it, while NTB (The Norwegian News Agency) stood for the photos. - They also took official pictures in The White Drawing Room afterwards - plus some gala-photos in the same room in the evening.
*White-tie official gala-dinner at the palace in the evening, where the greetings/royal-procession were filmed by NRK (at least, that's what I've read), but they were not allowed to cover the speeches.
And yes, NTB got to take pictures (although I've never seen any from the greetings, just the procession).

See gallery here, which includes photos of Haakon at Confirmation Camp, the RF attending a ''conversation-service'' (be aware that I wrote ''conversation,'' not confirmation) in Asker Church some days before the day itself, and King Olav V greeting his guests at the airport (gallery-link).

BTW: I have previously read (and therefore written in this thread) that the service and greetings/royal-procession were televised by NRK. Well, after having gone through the print-newspapers editions of VG and Aftenposten (the TV-guide-pages included) in their web-archives from October 9th, 1988, I've now found out that this was not the case. No, they just showed clips.

Godparents: King Olav V of Norway (his paternal grandfather), Princess Astrid of Norway (his paternal aunt), Queen Margrethe II of Denmark (his paternal second cousin once removed), King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden (his paternal third cousin), Princess Anne of the United Kingdom (his paternal third cousin), and Prince Carl Bernadotte (Prince in the Belgian nobility and former Prince of Sweden, and Haakon's paternal great-uncle).

Known foreign royal guests: The Danish and Swedish Regent-Couples, Queen Ingrid of Denmark (godmother to Haakon's father, the then CP Harald), Princess Anne, and Prince Carl Bernadotte (his wife Princess Kristine Bernadotte, Count Flemming and Countess Ruth of Rosenborg were also present, although you cannot see them in the gallery above).

(And to those who may wonder about the elderly lady in Haakon/Märtha's gala-photos? Well, that is their maternal grandmother, Dagny Haraldsen.)

So it is interesting that NRK will apparently be filming inside the church for Prince Sverre Magnus's confirmation, since that was not done for his aunt's confirmation.

[Princess_Eleanor]

Princess Ingrid Alexandra had her first day at Elvebakken High School yesterday
Info on the school: With about 1350 students, it is one of Oslo's largest schools. It is also considered one of the city's most attractive schools and in recent years has had the largest number of applicants and the highest admission requirements in Oslo. The school was attended by Queen Sonja back when it was still known as Oslo Yrkesskole.

[Duc_et_Pair]

In the Dutch press is mentioned that Queen Máxima, the Crown Prince of Greece as well the Princess of Turnovo have been invited. Problem is the quarantaine rule in Norway. This makes it almost impossible for the royal godparents to attend in own person.

[Muhler]

Indeed, the latest from BB is that Queen Maxima will not attend as it means she will have to self-quarantine for ten days upon arriving in Norway.

Breaking that rule would be unacceptable for the NRF. And as such she has Cancelled attending.
So Have Crown Prince Pavlos and Princess Rosario.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/16/h...ntibodies.html

[rchainho]

Originally Posted by eya

Prince Sverre Magnus`s confirmation service will take place in Asker church, Saturday 5 September. After the confirmation service, a smaller, private dinner will be held at the Skaugum Estate.

https://www.kongehuset.no/artikkel.html?tid=184195&sek=112472

hello,
Someone can tell me why Sverre wears glasses? His father wore too in his youth. Thanks

[Somebody]

I assume because he cannot see that well without his glasses? That seems to be the main reason for people to wear glasses; I don't think it's just a fashion item...

He seems to have started wearing them late 2018 - at least that's when we start seeing him with glasses.

[rchainho]

I asked this because I have astigmatism.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by Muhler

Indeed, the latest from BB is that Queen Maxima will not attend as it means she will have to self-quarantine for ten days upon arriving in Norway.

Breaking that rule would be unacceptable for the NRF. And as such she has Cancelled attending.
So Have Crown Prince Pavlos and Princess Rosario.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/16/h...ntibodies.html

It would have been wonderful to have a royal event with some foreign guests even on a small scale. I am sure the godparents will find a different way to send their best wishes to their godchild now they cannot attend his confirmation.

Why are their confirmations only a year apart while their age difference is almost 2 years? Was Ingrid-Alexandra 'late' or is Sverre Magnus 'early'; or is it based on calendar year (Ingrid-Alexandra being born in January 2004; Sverre Magnus in December 2005)?

[Biri]

Originally Posted by Somebody

Why are their confirmations only a year apart while their age difference is almost 2 years? Was Ingrid-Alexandra 'late' or is Sverre Magnus 'early'; or is it based on calendar year (Ingrid-Alexandra being born in January 2004; Sverre Magnus in December 2005)?

One young human being is earlier ready to confirm his identity as a Christian and receive the Holy Communion, and the other one - later.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by Biri

One young human being is earlier ready to confirm his identity as a Christian and receive the Holy Communion, and the other one - later.

Both seem to be doing at about the 'expected age', so I don't think that is the case here.

If the difference had been that one waited until they were in their twenties and the other did it at the 'expected age', then, I would agree that the one waiting until their twenties might have done it when they were truly ready... and not primarily out of tradition.

Found the following on a website by a Norwegain:
"It all takes place the year you turn 15".

So, the fact that Ingrid-Alexandra's birthday is in January and Sverre Magnus' birthday is in December seems to be the deciding factor.

[Muhler]

Not sure about Norway, but in DK it follows the class rather than the precise age of the confirmand.
So if the average age in say Sverre's class is 15, then they will all be confirmed at the same time, even if Sverre is a year older or younger.

[Helen.CH]

Originally Posted by Somebody

Both seem to be doing at about the 'expected age', so I don't think that is the case here.

If the difference had been that one waited until they were in their twenties and the other did it at the 'expected age', then, I would agree that the one waiting until their twenties might have done it when they were truly ready... and not primarily out of tradition.

Found the following on a website by a Norwegain:
"It all takes place the year you turn 15".

So, the fact that Ingrid-Alexandra's birthday is in January and Sverre Magnus' birthday is in December seems to be the deciding factor.

Confirmation in Norway has lost all of legal function and mostly theologically emptied BUT has a huge cultural function still. this results from its historical causes and the recent reforms made. (different in sweden and danmark)

[MARG]

Confirmation, within the Anglican church here in NZ, was around 14/15 years-of-age when I was Confirmed and came after months of classes.

When you take your vow you are, quite simply, taking ownership of your spiritual growth that your Godparents had promised at your Baptism. You are accepted into a the church as a full member and are then able to participate in the Sacrament of Holt Communion.

For the faithful, it is a intensely private dialogue with the Father and it is essential that you are both theologically grounded and spiritually in communion with God.

It is not surpring that some are ready even before the set age. More surprising, many defer making such a significant vow feeling themselves not ready.

[HereditaryPrincess]

In the CofE confirmations normally take place when the individual is 13. I was 13 when I had my confirmation and it was a very casual affair, we were allowed to wear our regular church clothes to get confirmed by the bishop.

[MARG]

Ours was traditional wyh white dresses and veils.