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In the german magazines there where some rumours about Countess Anna Plater-Syberg in the 90's and also about another woman Sigrid van Erps who was from Switzerland if i remember correct.
Anna Plater-Syberg later went into a convent btw.

Fiametta de Frescobaldi later married the second son of the duke of Arenberg and a princess of Bavaria and thus is a regular guest at Belgian noble and royal gatherings.

Still, the only 'serious' relationship he had before Mathilde is said to be with Barbara Marselis indeed, which was broken of by his father and court as she was not noble. Barbara ended up marrying the son of an artist friend of Queen Paola.

http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/947/Royalty...t-dumpen.dhtml

According to one of the many stories about the meeting of Philippe & Mathilde, it was actually Stephanie de Lalaing (who denies that they ever had a relationship) who pointed out Mathilde to him, and said 'look, there is a nice devout girl for you'.
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I suspect that in the case of Felipe there's some intriguing love story there we'll never know about but that was in the category of romeo and juliet..something akin of perhaps him being madly in love with either a woman of a different religion, different generation, a married lady, or simply somone from 'le peuple' and thus unsuitable..
I was searching google for photos of Philippe and Mathilde and I found this:

Le roi Philippe était amoureux d’Ofra Haza quatre ans avant de se marier avec Mathilde d’Udekem d’Acoz: «Il l’a harcelée!» - sudinfo.be
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She is better of being married with an unknown nobleman than with Philippe, King of a very troubled and problematic state, with strong separatistic tendences and federal parts more and more drifting apart. Some label Belgium as a failed state even, where nothing works. It is not tht pleasant to be Queen of the Belgians.
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She is better of being married with an unknown nobleman than with Philippe, King of a very troubled and problematic state, with strong separatistic tendences and federal parts more and more drifting apart. Some label Belgium as a failed state even, where nothing works. It is not tht pleasant to be Queen of the Belgians.
Belgium is not a failed state and was actually the 17th wealthiest country in the world in terms of GDP per capita in 2014 according to the World Bank. In the past, Belgium was one of the pioneers of the Industrial Revolution in continental Europe and the seat of an important colonial empire in central Africa. Furthermore, despite minority separatist movements, there is no indication that the Belgian federation will break up anytime soon.

I suspect that, like a few other Dutchmen, you are not over the Belgian revolution of 1830 yet.
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I am sure most have gotten over the treachery of the 'ungrateful Belgians' by now .

However, the discussion of Belgium as a failed state is not a Dutch or a French one. It is a discussion currently held in Belgian newspapers. It is mainly led by CEO's of big companies who seem frustrated that nothing ever gets done due to all the layers of bureaucracy. The infrastruture is crumbling, the police actions sometimes remind us of Louis de Funs' movies etc. But as you say: all is relative, it is one of the richest countries in the world.
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Still, the only 'serious' relationship he had before Mathilde is said to be with Barbara Marselis indeed, which was broken of by his father and court as she was not noble. Barbara ended up marrying the son of an artist friend of Queen Paola.

http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/947/Royalty...t-dumpen.dhtml
Beautiful woman Barbara Marselis was indeed in that linked article. One could understand him carrying a torch. One cannot fail but see a resemblance with Mathilde, especially when young.
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According to one of the many stories about the meeting of Philippe & Mathilde, it was actually Stephanie de Lalaing (who denies that they ever had a relationship) who pointed out Mathilde to him, and said 'Look, there is a nice devout girl for you'.
So intriguing! Anyone have any more stories how their relationship progressed?

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The prince is born in 1960, Mathilde in 1973, they married in 1999, so 39 and 26 was their age when marrying.
They have met each other before 1997, when Mathilde's sister died in a car accident, because Philippe attended the funeral as acquaintance of Mathilde.

They must have fallen in love in 1996, when Philippe was 36 and Mathilde 23.
I know she was a teacher. She was young, the age difference akin to that between a British prince at 32 marrying a bride aged 20. Mathilde and Philippe edge them out by one year with a 33 year age difference. What a difference education and culture make in perceptions!
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And different personalities and expectations of each other. Plus undoubtedly having a lot in common. And both being in love with each other.
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