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Old 01-13-2007, 06:16 PM
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Who said the majority would always be right morally? But what the majority want, the majority gets. And surely it has to be that way?
Why surely?
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:34 PM
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I just can't see the monarchy without the Queen. I don't think Charles woud be a great monarch like his mother. He is not as tough and strong like the Queen but thats just my opinion.
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:50 PM
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Who said the majority would always be right morally? But what the majority want, the majority gets. And surely it has to be that way?


Not if it isn't good for society in general or has short-term benefits but causes severe long-term harm. If the majority of Britons had decided in a referendum or in a debate in Parliament that they wanted Charles to remove himself from the line of succession out of respect for Diana's memory or some other Diana-related reason, I don't suppose you'd think they should be pandered to.
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Old 01-13-2007, 07:54 PM
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I just can't see the monarchy without the Queen. I don't think Charles woud be a great monarch like his mother. He is not as tough and strong like the Queen but thats just my opinion.
I don't think Charles has the qualities his mother has brought to the monarchy. I don't know if it's "toughness"/"strength" but I simply believe Charles is far more self-centred than his mother and far less self-disciplined, though to be fair, I believe very few of us are blessed with that quality to the degree Queen Elizabeth has been.

On the other hand, Charles, no matter how hard he tries, cannot be expected to be a clone of his mother once he succeeds the throne. He must bring his own qualities and virtues to the role and let's hope he tries to do this, rather than turn the role around to suit himself, which is what I am a little fearful of.
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Old 01-13-2007, 08:20 PM
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I just can't see the monarchy without the Queen. I don't think Charles woud be a great monarch like his mother. He is not as tough and strong like the Queen but thats just my opinion.
The same was said of Edward VII when Queen Victoria died and he became a very beloved monarch.
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Old 01-13-2007, 08:24 PM
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I don't think Charles has the qualities his mother has brought to the monarchy. I don't know if it's "toughness"/"strength" but I simply believe Charles is far more self-centred than his mother and far less self-disciplined, though to be fair, I believe very few of us are blessed with that quality to the degree Queen Elizabeth has been.
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I think our whole generation is far more self-centered than the Queen's generation. I know I am more self-centered and individualistic than my grandparents were.

For that matter, I think the Queen's children and their spouses are more self-centered than the Queen and Prince Philip. Oddly enough, I think the oldest two, Charles and Anne, are probably less self-centered and more disciplined than any of the younger generation (Andrew, Edward, Sarah, Sophie, Diana)
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Old 01-13-2007, 08:37 PM
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I believe Charles was self-centered when he was young. But now he is mature.
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Old 01-13-2007, 10:03 PM
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I think Anglo-saxon culture is more likely to be an indiviual culture than Asian cutures. And the social changes of a strong individual personaility has a great influence on baby boomer and later generations. Charles is self-centred because the way he was brought up and because he is in a society which has been "Me first "for decades.

I think Charles will be a different king from his mother. He is likely to be a beloved King as well because he is a kind, gentle, caring, warm person by his heart. He cares the world, he cares the country and the people.He is proud to be British and he will do everything possible and in his power to benefit Britain and the world. I respect his long-term and deep commitment.
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Being the Sovereign is a hereditary duty and not a personality contest or moral question. Britain has survived kings and queens far worse than anything Charles III could be.

The monarchy is above all that or you might as well have a republic.
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Old 01-14-2007, 12:17 AM
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I think Anglo-saxon culture is more likely to be an indiviual culture than Asian cutures. And the social changes of a strong individual personaility has a great influence on baby boomer and later generations. Charles is self-centred because the way he was brought up and because he is in a society which has been "Me first "for decades.

I think Charles will be a different king from his mother. He is likely to be a beloved King as well because he is a kind, gentle, caring, warm person by his heart. He cares the world, he cares the country and the people.He is proud to be British and he will do everything possible and in his power to benefit Britain and the world. I respect his long-term and deep commitment.

Perfectly stated. Wish I had more to add to it than that, but this sums up anything I was going to say.
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Old 01-14-2007, 12:23 PM
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Who really cares if Charles gets to rule or not? It does not look like mommy wants to get off the throne!
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We don't know what the future will hold. Charles could predecease his mother and William could become King. We'll just have to wait and see.
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Old 01-14-2007, 01:07 PM
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Who really cares if Charles gets to rule or not? It does not look like mommy wants to get off the throne!
I'm assuming the 'mommy' you are referring to is Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.

Actually what Her Majesty wants or doesn't want doesn't really matter much either. She once said that she would rather live a quiet country life and she didn't get her wish. The throne is hereditary from sovereign to eldest son (or daughter if there is no son) and tradition is that the sovereign stays on the throne till death.

This is the way its always been and pretty much will always be. Whatever 'mommy' wants, 'mommy' will do her duty and so will 'sonny' when he gets on the throne, and so will grand'sonny'.
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Old 01-14-2007, 05:18 PM
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Who really cares if Charles gets to rule or not? It does not look like mommy wants to get off the throne!
I care.

The man's whole life has been geared towards him becoming King one day. Ever since he was a child he has been groomed for it and his education and career and matrimonial choices were governed by the expectation he would be King.

I think he'll be a very good King. I believe he is a decent man, with a strong sense of duty and compassion, and a sense of humour. I like him, and I think he deserves to be king, to finally have the chance to fulfil the role for which he has been trained his whole life - to take his natural place as successor to his mother the Queen when her reign reaches its natural conclusion in due course.
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Old 01-16-2007, 01:55 AM
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Well said, Roslyn. I agree 100%.



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Old 01-16-2007, 01:02 PM
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I think the poeple who don´t believe that Charles will be the next King are out of reality. He is born to be King and he will be!
And he will be a great King! The Queen is wonderful, i know, and he will do it in another way. But it does not mean that this way will be not a good one for the future times! Charles is very well prepared, he has a very good character....and he has a wonderful wife by his side!
I´m looking forward to see him reign!
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Catholic monarch ban 'should end'

The ban on Catholics becoming the British monarch should be abolished, according to the incoming Church of Ireland primate

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6275011.stm

"Bishop Harper told the Irish Times that the disestablishment of the Church of England - separating church and state - was something it would "not only get over, but would be the better for it".
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I wholeheartedly agree with this. I think in this day and age it is silly to not allow a Catholic to be in the line of succession or to actually sit on the throne. People can still be Anglican, they can still follow the faith they've followed their whole lives without it being tied to the state.
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Old 01-19-2007, 06:37 PM
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I hope Charles gets his chance, despite all what has happend in his personal life throughout the years, he has actually done some good for the UK, look at his many foundations and charity work.
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I think dropping the Catholic ban would be a bit of a betrayal to those who died to make sure Catholics didn't have the right to sit on the throne. And surely it would cause problems with the Church of England and lead to it's breakdown or at least it would mean that the monarch lost their place as Defender of the Faith. I'm all for multi-faith tolerance but I just think this opens up an unwelcome can of worms.
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