The Royal Forums Coat of Arms


Join The Royal Forums Today
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #861  
Old 11-15-2005, 12:08 PM
BeatrixFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: London, United Kingdom
Posts: 6,861
Well, the age for retirement for a men and women is 62. It was 65 for men and 60 for women but that was changed. But those rules don't apply for members of the Royal Family - it's a job for life.
__________________

__________________
Kaye aka BeatrixFan
  #862  
Old 11-15-2005, 12:11 PM
magnik's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 3,662
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeatrixFan
Well, the age for retirement for a men and women is 62. It was 65 for men and 60 for women but that was changed. But those rules don't apply for members of the Royal Family - it's a job for life.

Always can dream:)
__________________

  #863  
Old 11-15-2005, 12:14 PM
BeatrixFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: London, United Kingdom
Posts: 6,861
Why have people got to dream that Charles will die before his mother? For people who claim to love the Queen and William that doesn't strike me as caring. Wishing that the Queen lose her first born child, William loses his father as well as his mother and that Camilla loses her husband. Charming.
__________________
Kaye aka BeatrixFan
  #864  
Old 11-15-2005, 12:35 PM
magnik's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 3,662
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeatrixFan
Why have people got to dream that Charles will die before his mother? For people who claim to love the Queen and William that doesn't strike me as caring. Wishing that the Queen lose her first born child, William loses his father as well as his mother and that Camilla loses her husband. Charming.

NOOO!!! I don't wish Charles or anybody death! Lossing someonewho you love is terrible. I've just wondering will Charles be some day a ruler or not. And if will than how long but if not than what could be possible a reason - age, health. Death is possible too and talk about that is unfortunately necessary if you want or no. Especially when you talk about that if "Will Charles (or whoever CPs/ss) ever reign?"


GreetingsBeatrixFan
  #865  
Old 11-15-2005, 12:38 PM
BeatrixFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: London, United Kingdom
Posts: 6,861
And greetings to you to m'dear, but the only way Charles will not be King is if he marries a catholic (which he hasn't), abdicates (and he'll have to be King first to do that) or dies. He certainly won't abdicate - he's waited too long for the top job and so the only way he won't be King is if he dies.
__________________
Kaye aka BeatrixFan
  #866  
Old 11-15-2005, 12:47 PM
magnik's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 3,662
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeatrixFan
And greetings to you to m'dear, but the only way Charles will not be King is if he marries a catholic (which he hasn't), abdicates (and he'll have to be King first to do that) or dies. He certainly won't abdicate - he's waited too long for the top job and so the only way he won't be King is if he dies.

As it was said or wrote: Wait and it will be given you...:) someday Charles.
  #867  
Old 11-15-2005, 01:06 PM
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: ***, United States
Posts: 16,873
Quote:
Originally Posted by corazon
You're call me crazy?
No, he's calling the accusation crazy. That's not at all the same thing.
  #868  
Old 11-15-2005, 02:10 PM
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: , United States
Posts: 2,735
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeatrixFan
And greetings to you to m'dear, but the only way Charles will not be King is if he marries a catholic (which he hasn't), abdicates (and he'll have to be King first to do that) or dies. He certainly won't abdicate - he's waited too long for the top job and so the only way he won't be King is if he dies.
And he can't abdicate without Parliament's consent via the passing of an Act. As the eligible descendant of Electress Sophia under the Act of Settlement, Charles is automatically King when his mother dies.
  #869  
Old 11-15-2005, 02:14 PM
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: ***, United States
Posts: 16,873
Hypothetically speaking, of course - is there no way he could take himself out of the line of succession during the present reign other than by becoming or marrying a Catholic?
  #870  
Old 11-15-2005, 02:45 PM
magnik's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 3,662
What about bad health condition? (I don't wish him any illnesses!)
  #871  
Old 11-15-2005, 03:06 PM
ysbel's Avatar
Heir Apparent
TRF Author
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: New York, United States
Posts: 5,377
Either the Queen or Charles as King could be deemed as incapacitated and a permanent regent would be appointed. In that case, the Prince of Wales doesn't become King but becomes Prince Regent.This is what happened to George IV when George III fell into his terminal stage of porphyria. George IV did not become King until his father died.

Charles would probably be chosen regent if the Queen were incapacitated because he's been around awhile and knows the ropes; I don't know if William would be created regent if Charles were incapacitated. It depends on how much experience he has at the time Charles became incapacitated.
  #872  
Old 11-15-2005, 03:07 PM
Oppie's Avatar
Courtier
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 537
No I don't think there is any way to take him out other than marrying a Catholic or changing religion (I am right in saying that you have to be of the Church of England to be King ?)
I
f he ascends the throne and mentally incompetent then there is a provision to have a Regent (most likely William). As in the case of George III.

If he does Abdicate an Act would have to be passed in all the Parliament of the realm (Canada, Australia, New Zealand ect.)
  #873  
Old 11-15-2005, 03:10 PM
Nobility
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Moscow, Russia
Posts: 365
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elspeth
Hypothetically speaking, of course - is there no way he could take himself out of the line of succession during the present reign other than by becoming or marrying a Catholic?
No way except of amending or repealing the Act of Settlement.
  #874  
Old 11-15-2005, 03:14 PM
Nobility
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Moscow, Russia
Posts: 365
Quote:
Originally Posted by ysbel
...
Charles would probably be chosen regent if the Queen were incapacitated because he's been around awhile and knows the ropes; I don't know if William would be created regent if Charles were incapacitated. It depends on how much experience he has at the time Charles became incapacitated.
According to the Regency Act 1937 Charles would be appointed regent if his mother were incpacitated; the same holds for William in case of King Charles's incapacity.
  #875  
Old 11-15-2005, 03:46 PM
Skydragon's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: London and Highlands, United Kingdom
Posts: 10,912
Quote:
Originally Posted by magnik
What about bad health condition? (I don't wish him any illnesses!)
Wow, are you a pessimist. I hope he and Camilla have a long and happy life!:)
  #876  
Old 11-15-2005, 03:49 PM
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: , United States
Posts: 2,735
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mapple
No way except of amending or repealing the Act of Settlement.
Correct. Theroetically, he could execute a Renunciation of Succession Rights in favor of William before the Queen's death, but only if Parliament agreed and passed an Act confirming Charles was no longer eligible to succeed under the Act of Settlement.
  #877  
Old 11-15-2005, 04:09 PM
ysbel's Avatar
Heir Apparent
TRF Author
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: New York, United States
Posts: 5,377
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mapple
According to the Regency Act 1937 Charles would be appointed regent if his mother were incpacitated; the same holds for William in case of King Charles's incapacity.
Thanks for clarifying that Mapple. :)
  #878  
Old 11-15-2005, 04:51 PM
Oppie's Avatar
Courtier
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 537
Quote:
Correct. Theroetically, he could execute a Renunciation of Succession Rights in favor of William before the Queen's death, but only if Parliament agreed and passed an Act confirming Charles was no longer eligible to succeed under the Act of Settlement.
This would be the biggest problem in my opinion. Not only would it have to go through the UK parilament but also all the realms. If it was brought up they would be a huge debate about just ending the monarchy in general. That is why I think in any case it is a bad idea for any of the Parliaments to get invovled, abdication or ending the male perfered system. (I like the Queen on my money :) )
  #879  
Old 11-15-2005, 04:57 PM
magnik's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 3,662
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skydragon
Wow, are you a pessimist. I hope he and Camilla have a long and happy life!:)

I'm not a pessimist but I hypothetical considering about that what could "disturb" or "help" him to be a king some day. :) Nothing more!!! I don't wish no one a death or illnesses!
  #880  
Old 11-16-2005, 04:25 PM
Skydragon's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: London and Highlands, United Kingdom
Posts: 10,912
Quote:
Originally Posted by magnik
I'm not a pessimist but I hypothetical considering about that what could "disturb" or "help" him to be a king some day. :) Nothing more!!! I don't wish no one a death or illnesses!
I know you don't.:) I just have a horror of 'what if', my problem, not yours.:)
__________________

Closed Thread

Tags
prince charles, prince of wales


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Reign of Felipe VI: How Will Things Be Different? muriel King Felipe VI, Queen Letizia and Family 90 01-03-2017 06:30 PM
“The Lady Queen: the Notorious Reign of Joanna I, Queen of Naples, Jerusalem, and Sic An Ard Ri Royal Library 0 07-06-2014 07:27 PM
Is Victoria Ready to Reign? NotAPretender Crown Princess Victoria, Prince Daniel and Family 20 06-19-2011 07:05 AM
Elizabeth II: Oldest British Monarch (Dec 20 2007); 2nd Longest Reign (May 12 2011) WindsorIII Queen Elizabeth II 33 05-30-2011 07:40 AM




Popular Tags
american archie mountbatten-windsor asia asian baby names british british royal family buckingham palace camilla camilla's family camilla parker-bowles camilla parker bowles china china chinese ming dynasty asia asian emperor royalty qing chinese clarence house commonwealth countries coronation crown jewels daisy doge of venice dresses duchess of sussex duke of sussex edward vii family tree genetics george vi gustaf vi adolf harry and meghan highgrove history hochberg hypothetical monarchs jack brooksbank japan japan history jewellery kensington palace king edward vii king juan carlos książ castle liechtenstein lili mountbatten-windsor line of succession list of rulers meghan markle monarchy mongolia mountbatten names plantinum jubilee pless politics portugal prince harry princess eugenie queen consort queen victoria royalty of taiwan st edward sussex suthida swedish queen taiwan thai royal family unfinished portrait united states united states of america welsh


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:12 AM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2021
Jelsoft Enterprises
×