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Old 11-02-2018, 10:29 AM
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He knows a great deal of his royal counterparts. It will just be nice to get glimps of a royal gathering for the future King’s Birthday. I hope we see the Greek royals too. Although it probably won’t happen, but it wouldn’t hurt for a major official portraits taken for the celebration too. Let’s party!
If he knows them so well how come he hardly ever attends THEIR weddings or birthday parties? I dotn believe he is very bothered about the other royal families, and will be inviting his own friends and close family to his 70th...
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Old 11-02-2018, 10:50 AM
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I'd prefer to see what you described reserved for Charles' coronation.
No, just saying that we see tons of royals gathering for the other milestones, so what’s wrong with the continental royals gathering for a British milestone? 70 is a big deal, I would think folks would be excited for another royal gathering for The Prince of Wales’s Birthday. It happened for his 60th at Buckingham Palace too.

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If he knows them so well how come he hardly ever attends THEIR weddings or birthday parties? I dotn believe he is very bothered about the other royal families, and will be inviting his own friends and close family to his 70th...
It’s The Queen who sends members of her family at these European royal celebrations...when she feels like it. Oddly she like sending those down the royal pecking order. I guess to give them something important to do.

But, yes, Charles knows his counterparts. Some of them was at his 60th.
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Old 11-02-2018, 10:55 AM
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He knows them very well.
I think there are several reasons why he seldom attends these official celebrations. One would be the schedules clashings. As we saw earlier the Duchess of Cornwall didn't attend Eugenie's wedding because of a previous engagement.
I guess the media would complain about the cost of these trips for "personal pleasure". And European royals tend to visit the British RF privately when they are in Britain.
And yes the British just do it differently....

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He did attend some birthdays in past and almost all rhe weddings of the heirs to the throne.
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Old 11-02-2018, 11:17 AM
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It’s The Queen who sends members of her family at these European royal celebrations...when she feels like it. Oddly she like sending those down the royal pecking order. I guess to give them something important to do.

But, yes, Charles knows his counterparts. Some of them was at his 60th.
So if he knows them well, why isn't he inviting them to come to his party?
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Old 11-02-2018, 11:18 AM
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Good thoughts Andrew and I agree with you.

One thing the Queen has always done is separate her role in the monarchy from her role personally. She's always supported celebrations with the other nations being invited to attend and be a part of it when its something pertaining to the monarchy such as her Jubilees are but when it comes to a personal milestone like their 70th wedding anniversary, she preferred that it not be a cause for public attention and preferred to keep the celebrations private.

This is her son's 70th birthday and to be honest, there aren't too many moms that are around to celebrate that milestone with their "baby". I would imagine that at the forefront of her mind with planning a party for him, it would be to make it as memorable for him as she can.

Its not about rank and file or how it looks for the monarchy which her son will inherit but if I can be fanciful and think as the Queen might think, be a party that makes her son happy and memorable.

This is a mom planning a party in a role as a mom. Work most likely gets a back seat to it. We, the public, are not probably anywhere near a concern how this party is going to be, look, be interpreted or measured by the Fail. Its not a PR stunt. Time enough for that kind of stuff in other areas.

It doesn't matter who attends or not as we see it. What matters is that Charles hits 70 running, willing and able as a happy person ready to take on the rest of his life and its my opinion, 70 is to be celebrated just because he still has his mother to throw him a party. Not many of us can say that.
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Old 11-02-2018, 11:21 AM
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Old 11-02-2018, 11:41 AM
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So if he knows them well, why isn't he inviting them to come to his party?
We don’t know the full guest list for the party. All we know that the Crown Prince and Crown Princess of Denmark have confirmed their attendance.

You do know that all these European royals are family members, right? They know each other better than royal watchers know them.
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Old 11-02-2018, 11:46 AM
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Then Im surprised that Charles hasn't attended more of their weddings/parities etc and that they presumably aren't coming to his...
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Old 11-02-2018, 11:48 AM
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Perhaps he does not want a lot of foreign royals whom he hardly knows [...] ...

He knows most royals his whole life long. Two weeks ago, during the traditional press moment at the end of a State Visit, King Willem-Alexander told he relationship with the Windsors was warm and close. He knew Buckingham already as a child, from visits over there. King Willem-Alexander revealed that this summer (in June) his family were guests of The Queen at Windsor Castle.

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Old 11-02-2018, 11:52 AM
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Then Im surprised that Charles hasn't attended more of their weddings/parities etc and that they presumably aren't coming to his...
Charles HAS attended most Royal weddings,Denmark and The Netherlands come to mind to name a few,and he was present at two Inthronisations here in NL in 1980 and 2013 plus birthday bashes a.o then Queen Beatrix's 60th birthday plus numerous private visits out of the Court Circular.Furthermore many if not all attended his birthday bash at his 60th.But also,his youngest brother Edward and his Sophie are very well loved among their Royal counterparts and almost always present if there's a party in Royal Europe,certainly here as they are very close friends with our King & Queen..
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Old 11-02-2018, 11:54 AM
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I'd expect several royals from the house of Greece to be present. I imagine we're likely to see Margareta of Romania (maybe Elena, too), Crown Prince Alexander II of Serbia, Princess Elizabeth of Yugoslavia and some of Charles' closer German cousins, as well. For Spain, HM King Juan Carlos (and/or Sofia) may well be there instead of King Felipe and someone may come from Norway. Less likely are royals from Sweden, Belgium, the Netherlands, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg and Monaco, imo, but you never know...
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:48 PM
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Charles HAS attended most Royal weddings,Denmark and The Netherlands come to mind to name a few,and he was present at two Inthronisations here in NL in 1980 and 2013 plus birthday bashes a.o then Queen Beatrix's 60th birthday plus numerous private visits out of the Court Circular.Fu
so why are some posters claiming that the RF/Queen "only" sends the Wessexes to foreign royals' parties, implication being that she doesn't consider tehem very important or that Charles does not want to attend?
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:04 PM
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That’s only because The Queen only sends them. She don’t bother to send future King’s to those events.

Prince Charles actually attended the weddings of the Duke of Brabant, the Prince of Orange, and the Prince of Asturias. He was also present at the funeral service for Prince Claus of the Netherlands. In fact, it was only recently (mostly post-2004) that the Prince of Wales stopped representing the Queen in royal events in the continent.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:32 PM
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Prince Charles actually attended the weddings of the Duke of Brabant, the Prince of Orange, and the Prince of Asturias. He was also present at the funeral service for Prince Claus of the Netherlands. In fact, it was only recently (mostly post-2004) that the Prince of Wales stopped representing the Queen in royal events in the continent.
so why is there this perception that Charles/the queen don't rate the Foreign RFs very highly and just send the Wessex couple to attend their events?
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:44 PM
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so why is there this perception that Charles/the queen don't rate the Foreign RFs very highly and just send the Wessex couple to attend their events?
That's not nice for the Wessexes ...
I guess it's just a generation thing. Charles is not stupid and pretty knows that's there is now a more or less huge age gap between him and the other European heirs. Sending the Wessexes is just a sensitive move i guess, avoiding any akwardness for the Prince of Wales, and reinforcing his role as the Queen's double at home.
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Old 11-02-2018, 02:19 PM
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so why is there this perception that Charles/the queen don't rate the Foreign RFs very highly and just send the Wessex couple to attend their events?
I keep reading that these days, Charles is virtually co-monarch and the major decisions are made by him.
So it's natural that he no longer attends these events, just as the Queen does not.

But I do think it's a bit insulting to keep deploying the Wessexes, as if all the more important royals have better things to do!

Why can't the Cambridges and the Sussexes attend once in a while?
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Old 11-02-2018, 02:39 PM
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well there we go, it seems as if people have the idea that Charles doesn't want to go, or doesn't think that the foreign royals are all that important and he or the queen send a relatively junior pair of royals to attned their functions....
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Old 11-02-2018, 02:42 PM
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I keep reading that these days, Charles is virtually co-monarch and the major decisions are made by him.
So it's natural that he no longer attends these events, just as the Queen does not.

But I do think it's a bit insulting to keep deploying the Wessexes, as if all the more important royals have better things to do!

Why can't the Cambridges and the Sussexes attend once in a while?



Most recent royal weddings and funerals took place when William and Harry were still very young. Now that they are married and full-time working royals, I expect them to attend overseas royal events more often, especially the Cambridges who have already made several official visits to the continent in the past years. I suspect the Sussexes on the other hand will concentrate more on Commonwealth tours.
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Old 11-02-2018, 02:52 PM
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Charles and Camilla were set to attend the wedding of Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden and Daniel Westling in 2110, but had to cancel since he hurt his foot. Swedish media reported at the time that William, Harry and Catherine were also invited, but that they chose to attend the World Cup in South Africa instead.
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it's a bit insulting to keep deploying the Wessexes
Friendships have been formed ,quite close ones too, [as the interaction between Queen Maxima with the Countess of Wessex during the recent State visit proved].
I've no doubt the various royals would rather see a friend show up, than a virtual stranger [who may be 'higher ranking'] but who is unfamiliar!
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