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Old 11-16-2018, 04:19 PM
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Well i can't blame Marie-Chantal to be a working business woman. The dress was probably a loan from the fashion house so she had to show off a bit in return to this freebie.
Tatiana and Lady Frederick did exactly the same so ...
Is it classy ? Maybe not. But not really shocking nowadays.
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Old 11-16-2018, 04:51 PM
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Does Marie-Chantal depend on freebies to get dresses for a birthday of His Royal Highness The Prince of Wales at Buckingham Palace? I have more respect for a Princess Elisabeth of Denmark who made her own gowns than for a Marie-Chantal splashing Prada.
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Old 11-16-2018, 04:52 PM
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Prince Palvos looked quite dashing.

Lady Frederic's dress is awkward. It reminded me of the dress worn by the late Diana, Princess of Wales.
Lady Frederick's dress will have reminded you of one worn by Diana because it is indeed a pink version of a Catherine Walker dress that Diana had in black. Lady Gabriella also wore a pale grey version of this dress to Prince Nicholas of Greece's wedding.
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Old 11-16-2018, 05:40 PM
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On a more general note, I so wish the palace would release a full guest list, even after the fact. It's irritating not to be sure who attended and who didn't.
The BRF do not released lists of people invited to PRIVATE events like this one.

Had this been an official event the list would have been in the Court Circular but as it was purely a private family occasion there is no list.

The BRF have different practices to other royal families and have a clear delineation between public and private events and believe that private events are just that - private.

They allow a lot of access for public events but limited to none for their private events.

After the 1980s and 1990s they very much pulled back from allowing the media in in order to try to take back control from the media and public who had come to believe that they had every right to know every little detail about their lives.
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:11 PM
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Who left first, what food was served, which rooms at the Palace were used, what the table settings were...

What the entertainment was - vintage car horns playing the "Blue Danube", Chinese acrobats, Edward sawing Peter Phillips in half!...

No photos, but plenty of details of the party -

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-birthday.html
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:30 PM
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The Palace always plays down visits from the German side of the family. I can understand that in the past this was necessary to respect sensibilities and avoid the press baying about the Saxe-Coburg, Hesse and Baden connections. But surely now it is time to move on. The British Royals are part of a wider European Royal family which, in these dreadful times, could be a powerful example of the links that connect the people of the continent together, and representative of so many other families which cross borders, as a result of increased mobility and emigration.:
The German relatives are private citizens, not public figures, and may prefer to stay under the radar, just as we really don't hear about visits from the Queen Mother's family who are private citizens too. But I'm only speculating. I really don't think visits from the Germans are played down because they're German.
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Old 11-16-2018, 09:22 PM
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Lady Frederick's dress will have reminded you of one worn by Diana because it is indeed a pink version of a Catherine Walker dress that Diana had in black. Lady Gabriella also wore a pale grey version of this dress to Prince Nicholas of Greece's wedding.
Thanks! The dress in question is not particularly flattering.
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Old 11-16-2018, 09:23 PM
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Who left first, what food was served, which rooms at the Palace were used, what the table settings were...

What the entertainment was - vintage car horns playing the "Blue Danube", Chinese acrobats, Edward sawing Peter Phillips in half!...

No photos, but plenty of details of the party -

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-birthday.html
I notice that Richard Key didn't say what his sources were - so is he making this up or did he ask guests to get his information.

Normally the author of such articles identifies there sources e.g. the sources for comments included in the toasts at Harry's wedding were named but not this time.

So this may be Kay having sources who don't want to be named OR he could be making it up.

This isn't officially released information.
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:14 PM
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The DM article is a sretch. Andrew Parker Bowels, Camilla'd ex, was a guest? Okay
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The DM article is a sretch. Andrew Parker Bowels, was a guest? Okay
Well he did go Charles and Camilla's wedding
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:04 PM
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I'm not surprised at all that Andrew Parker Bowles was a guest. All of them (Anne included) have remained friends despite failed romantic relationships. We often see APB pop up attending something along with the royal set.

Its good that there's no hard feelings or grudges but rather enduring friendships. This article about their relationships was printed when Andrew's second wife, Rosemary, died after a battle with cancer.

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalt...owles/funeral/
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:49 PM
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My husband hears me talk about this stuff and is truly shocked. He shakes his head and will say 'So Prince Charles was having an affair with Camilla and her husband was having affairs too and they were all OK with it but they made out that Princess Diana was mad because she objected? I think I am with Princess Diana'. I guess unless you are used to the ways of the upper classes, as we are via forums like this, it dosn't make sense to most people.
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Old 11-17-2018, 12:06 AM
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My husband hears me talk about this stuff and is truly shocked. He shakes his head and will say 'So Prince Charles was having an affair with Camilla and her husband was having affairs too and they were all OK with it but they made out that Princess Diana was mad because she objected? I think I am with Princess Diana'. I guess unless you are used to the ways of the upper classes, as we are via forums like this, it dosn't make sense to most people.
Even knowing that’s how they roll, it still doesn’t make sense to me. I just leave it as that.
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Old 11-17-2018, 12:11 AM
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Not everyone in the upper classes had/has that attitude, though. It was only certain people in the hunting and polo set.
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Old 11-17-2018, 12:30 AM
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The DM article is a sretch. Andrew Parker Bowels, Camilla'd ex and the man Charles cuckolded, was a guest? Okay
Absolutely. I would have been surprised if he wasn't there. He and Camilla had a very civiiised divorce. Charles and Andrew both have the pleasure of 'grandfathering' Andrew's biological grandchildren and unlike the Diana fanatics who go ballistic at the sight of Camilla anywhere near Diana's biological grandchildren Andrew is happy to see another 'grandfather' in his grandchildren's lives.

Andrew has been on excellent terms with Anne since the 1970s when they had their affair, which may or may not have had later reincarnations over the decades. I would expect him to be at Anne's 70th birthday celebrations in a couple of years as well.

Richard Key isn't stupid enough to include a name of someone who wasn't there as he could very easily be called out on that.

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Not everyone in the upper classes had/has that attitude, though. It was only certain people in the hunting and polo set.
There was a very clear unwritten rule that applied across the aristocracy - largely due to the 'arranged marriages' that occurred within that class until the 1960s in many cases:

at least two sons - the heir and spare - and then the wife was as free as the husband to sleep around so long as she was discreet.

The only two women who didn't have that freedom was the wife of the monarch and the wife of the heir to the throne as for them to sleep with any man, other than their husband, was treason. It was on those charges that both Anne Boleyn and Kathryn Howard were executed - for treason.
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Old 11-17-2018, 12:49 AM
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A few posts have been deleted because of derogatory comments made about one of the guests at Charles’ birthday party. When discussing royals/those associated with royals, please remember this posting rule: “Insulting comments about royals are not permitted. Criticism is acceptable; insults and flames are not.“

Also, posts that contained references to plastic surgery have been deleted.

Let’s not rehash the Camilla/Diana/Charles triangle.
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Old 11-17-2018, 02:51 AM
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The BRF do not released lists of people invited to PRIVATE events like this one.

Had this been an official event the list would have been in the Court Circular but as it was purely a private family occasion there is no list.

The BRF have different practices to other royal families and have a clear delineation between public and private events and believe that private events are just that - private.

They allow a lot of access for public events but limited to none for their private events.

Interesting enough a milestone birthday of the immediate heir is considered a "private event" at all!
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Old 11-17-2018, 02:58 AM
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Interesting enough a milestone birthday of the immediate heir is considered a "private event" at all!
Of course. A private event, funded privately, involving friends and family and not appearing in the Court Circular. Did not include politicians or government officials.
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Old 11-17-2018, 02:58 AM
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Well now I get William's joke about red squirrels at your birthday party Charles.

Letting them run around inside Birkhall?

Letting them climb into the pockets of your jacket when it's on a chair?

Don't you have to worry about fleas, rabies, number 1s and number 2s on the carpet and soft furnishings?

Guess not.

Sounds like a lot of fun.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-a8632941.html
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Old 11-17-2018, 03:41 AM
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Interesting enough a milestone birthday of the immediate heir is considered a "private event" at all!
That is the British way.

Remember that they also regard the receptions after weddings as private events unlike many, if not all, of the continental royals who believe in having everything covered.

Different families so different rules.

The Queen had some public events for her 90th birthday, as Charles did for his 70th, but the big family bash was also private and she is the monarch.

Charles had a garden party in May, a concert thing a few weeks ago and another event the other day before his actual birthday on which he again had an event related to his birthday before the private family dinner. The actual dinner was the private celebration while the others were more public and official. He had more official birthday events on the 15th as he had formal addresses from parliament - normally something only the Queen gets a couple of times a year.
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