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11-01-2005, 06:39 AM
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well, Charles has to take them as he finds them and that might be why is job is soooooooo difficult
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......... I find American journalists tend to forget their place.
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11-01-2005, 07:51 AM
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Just because Britain used to lay claim on a portion of the land that is now part of United Stated, doesn't mean the decendents and other immigrants in the 200+ years should automatically understand their "place" in the eyes of British Royals. The journalists are just doing their job trying to explain in basic terms what the royals do and why. There are many people in US and around the world, whose lives don't involved meeting or even reading about royals on a daily basis, nor living with a strict social structure that puts people in their place since birth.
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11-01-2005, 08:14 AM
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11-01-2005, 09:30 AM
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here's a short video from an american station about C and C's visit. the commentary is the usual same old same old.but its got some nice images to look at...
http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=88...8&t=&f=06/64&p=
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11-01-2005, 10:21 AM
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Apparently, they'll be at the world trade center after 12:00 today.
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11-01-2005, 10:53 AM
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11-01-2005, 11:11 AM
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I find American journalists tend to forget their place.
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LOL...since I live here I am finding even our tabloids are behaving in a most respectable manner when reporting any news regarding their visit.
We tend NOT to treat foreign visitors, royal or not, with hostility while they are in our country on official business.
While they are visiting we do not protest, threaten, throw things at, verbally assault, swear at, make fun of like a bunch of children, etc.
We allow them to do what they came here for, whether we agree or not agree.
It is called diplomacy. Anything less tampers with relations.
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11-01-2005, 11:20 AM
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I don't understand this stuff about Charles not working for a living. A lot of rich Americans whose basic income is inherited and coming from income from investments are doing the same thing he is, with their dedication to charity work and work in society along the lines of Charles's invovlement with Poundbury. As the 60-minutes segment said, he acts as an ambassador for British goods, services, and values by carrying out tours arranged by the Foreign Office. How is this different from the way a lot of well-connected friends of the US President of the day conduct their lives with no criticism from mainstream journalists?
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11-01-2005, 11:22 AM
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We tend NOT to treat foreign visitors, royal or not, with hostility while they are in our country on official business.
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How very welcoming.
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While they are visiting we do not protest, threaten, throw things at, verbally assault, swear at, make fun of like a bunch of children, etc.
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Really? I've been hearing an interview with a woman from 'The Diana Circle' being played all day saying how she will be protesting loudly at every avaliable opportunity whilst Their Royal Highness's are in America. I admit that they don't represent a majority but can't the mighty forces of America move them on?
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11-01-2005, 11:25 AM
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I agree for the most part Elspeth.
He does work. He works his backside off. I may not have agreed with everything he has done in his life, but I admire and respect the hard work and dedication he has to his role ans to the Monarchy.
But, I think maybe what the journalist from 60 Minutes was trying to say, and poorly, is that a royal does not work in the traditional sense like us commoners. Edward and Sophie tried to be both royal and work at normal jobs and as we saw, were not able to do both so they had to pick.
I do not think it was meant to angled: Prince Charles does not work, does not have to work, etc.
I think part of the problem is the journalist from 60 Minutes did not do his research properly.
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11-01-2005, 11:26 AM
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Really? I've been hearing an interview with a woman from 'The Diana Circle' being played all day saying how she will be protesting loudly at every avaliable opportunity whilst Their Royal Highness's are in America. I admit that they don't represent a majority but can't the mighty forces of America move them on?
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It depends how seriously the mighty forces of America take the US Constitution. The mighty forces of Singapore or Libya would be moving them on. Western democracies, on the whole, think freedom of speech is a good thing rather than a bad thing. For one thing, it lets people sit on computers criticising the government and society, which wouldn't be allowed in countries where the mighty forces are too scared of the opinions of individuals to allow them to be aired.
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There is such a thing as public decency. If they want to protest then let them, but they should do it far away from TRH so as not to cause a scene. It creates a bad impression and lets face it, America needs all the good PR it can get right now.
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11-01-2005, 11:28 AM
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How very welcoming.
Really? I've been hearing an interview with a woman from 'The Diana Circle' being played all day saying how she will be protesting loudly at every avaliable opportunity whilst Their Royal Highness's are in America. I admit that they don't represent a majority but can't the mighty forces of America move them on?
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That is one person and one VERY small group of people.
I will not debate, nor allow you to lead me into an argument with you, of any kind, and break any of the forum rules.
May I remind you how a certain person was treated in your country in November of 2003?
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May I remind you how a certain person was treated in your country in November of 2003?
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Please do.
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11-01-2005, 11:33 AM
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 Anyway, to move one to what this forum is really about, which is not ripping each other's countries apart.
Are the Prince and Duchess getting in later today, or this evening?
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11-01-2005, 11:38 AM
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{Removed response to off-topic post - Elspeth}
Are the Prince and Duchess going to visit New Orleans for sure?
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11-01-2005, 11:40 AM
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I believe New Orleans has been scrapped.
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11-01-2005, 11:44 AM
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I believe New Orleans has been scrapped.
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Thank you, pollyemma, for answering my question.
We are hoping another member on here, ysbel, who works across the street from where they will be today in New York will be able to get some pictures and then post them on here.
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11-01-2005, 11:59 AM
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Does anyone know if reporters will be able to ask the royal couple questions, and if they have planned any walkabouts to meet and greet the people?
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11-01-2005, 12:13 PM
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I haven't read all of the posts so this schedule may have been posted already, but the latest is that the couple will be in New York to visit Ground Zero and the UN, then go to Washington for lunch and dinner with the president, and finishing with 2 days in San Fransisco.
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