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Old 08-01-2017, 06:55 PM
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And, memory only, HMQ had her mtg c. month or so later.

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Old 08-01-2017, 08:04 PM
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Is it not his full time role, also for years? What else would he be doing?

He has a bit to go before gaining the same respect workwise as the Queen.
Other people have pointed out the many things Charles is involved in--I'm not sure what else he could be doing to "gain respect workwise." I've heard lots of criticisms of Charles but I've not heard this one before.

Since you don't think he does enough, what else should he be doing?
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Old 08-02-2017, 02:40 AM
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SOurce: Court Cirular:-

CHarles arrived from and returned to Scotland.

CAmbridges arrived on Sunday from, and returned on Monday to Norfolk(RAF Marham)
Thank you.

Clearly Charles did not stay long in Corfu with the PBs!
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Old 08-02-2017, 03:24 AM
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Actually, the centenary of a major event like WW1 should have been attended by the Queen herself. as it was attended e.g. by the presidents of France, Germany and Austria, and by the King of the Belgians. Since the Queen doesn't often leave the UK this days, she should have sent the PoW as her deputy. It greatly surprised me that William attended instead, but, if I recall it correctly, the reason was that, on that very same day, Charles attended a Commonwealth remembrance service in the UK, which again fits into the pattern of Charles taking up official Commonwealth business rather than William.

As far as the recent visits to France and Germany are concerned, those were not "tours", but rather official visits (only a notch below a state visit then). Generally, in other monarchies, official visits of that kind are made either by the sovereign or the crown prince / crown princess, and not by the second in line.
Perhaps because in other countries the second in line are children

The U.K. is unique where both the heir to the throne and his heir are both adults and can attend such events. That is not the case in any other monarchy. And the queen sends various members of her family on such trips, not just tours, not simply her heir. Again something unique to the uk. In continental families, the roles of younger siblings are limited in their roles.

The queen sends various people to represent her, even cousins. But she clearly makes sure to send her son to events that call for the head of the commonwealth or just Great Britain.

The war memorial didn't call for the queen. Simply the governmebt, May was there, and a senior royal. Philippe and Mathilde attend as their is a high school student and his siblings have minimal roles.
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Old 08-02-2017, 09:49 AM
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Lord, when last have seen Charles dressed down in shorts?
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Old 08-02-2017, 10:32 AM
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When was the last time we saw them on holiday, abroad?! Lovely break for them. Charles might have gone straight from Belgium.
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Old 08-02-2017, 04:14 PM
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When was the last time we saw them on holiday, abroad?! Lovely break for them. Charles might have gone straight from Belgium.
No, prince Charles returned in Scotland
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SOurce: Court Cirular:-

CHarles arrived from and returned to Scotland.

CAmbridges arrived on Sunday from, and returned on Monday to Norfolk(RAF Marham)
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Old 08-02-2017, 05:51 PM
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Just a question, how accurate is the Court Circular? Is it kept up to date with all of the official engagements?
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Old 08-02-2017, 06:30 PM
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The Court Circular is what determines whether or not an engagement is official - if it's not in the CC, it's not official.

The CC online is notorious for not being accurately maintained, but it is published in the Times weekly (I believe).
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Old 08-02-2017, 06:42 PM
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The CC is the official record of what is and isn't an official engagement and is approved daily by the monarch of the day.

It was established in the reign of George III to account for his, and his family's activities. There was some criticism that they didn't seem to be doing much so he arranged for The Times to publish the list each day and that has continued ever since.

The Times, and I believe at least two other papers - The Telegraph and one in Scotland - publish in their print editions the CC on weekdays but not public holidays or weekends.

The online CC was very good until the updated the website last year and now it regularly misses weeks at a time (this year, for instance, there are at least 240 engagements not recorded in the online CC that are in the print editions - based on the 'missing days' on the online CC. I would like to add that last year they missed a week in July that they finally put up in late November so who knows - with the summer holidays someone may even take the time to put up the missing days from February, May, June and July this year).

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Old 08-02-2017, 06:52 PM
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Just a question, how accurate is the Court Circular? Is it kept up to date with all of the official engagements?
The Court Circular is accurate and is published in the Times daily except on Sundays. Any activities for Sat and Sun are published on Monday.

What is not accurate is the maintenance of the CC on the royal website.

If the CC says Charles flew from Wick airport to Belgium and back, then he did.
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Old 08-02-2017, 07:03 PM
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Thanks for all of the explanations. I've occasionally looked at the CC on the Royal website and thought sometimes it seemed not up-to-date, however I wondered if perhaps I hadn't searched correctly.
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Old 08-03-2017, 07:44 AM
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:59 AM
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There were pictures of Charles and Camilla in Corfu last week. Does this mean Charles flew to Scotland from Corfu, then to Belgium, then back to Scotland, then back to Corfu? How odd
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:54 AM
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Yes.

It's not actually odd - BRF policy is that they don't mix personal vacations with official trips - they can't fly from an official trip to a vacation, or vis versa. By adding Scotland into the mix, Charles is going from vacation (Corfu) home (Scotland), then from home to an official trip (Belgium); from there he goes back home again, before going on vacation.

Last fall Harry made the misstep of sidetracking to Toronto on his way home from the Caribbean, which received a lot of criticism from the press (both because it violated official policy and because KP had said previously that Harry would not be doing that).
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Old 08-03-2017, 11:25 AM
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It does seem strange though, as it seems to support wasting time, money and contributing adversely to the environment just for a potentially outdated policy. The policy supports 'downtime' during an official engagement, but not downtime after.
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Old 08-03-2017, 12:02 PM
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There were pictures of Charles and Camilla in Corfu last week. Does this mean Charles flew to Scotland from Corfu, then to Belgium, then back to Scotland, then back to Corfu? How odd
It's old pictures. Prince Charles returned in Scotland and had few engagements there. Corfu trip was short.
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Old 08-03-2017, 12:24 PM
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It's old pictures. Prince Charles returned in Scotland and had few engagements there. Corfu trip was short.
That's what I thought. It makes more sense for the yacht pictures to be from last week.
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Old 08-03-2017, 01:05 PM
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It does seem strange though, as it seems to support wasting time, money and contributing adversely to the environment just for a potentially outdated policy. The policy supports 'downtime' during an official engagement, but not downtime after.


I don't disagree with it being silly and a bit frivolous, but there's a logic to it that makes it not entirely outdated.

Flying to Belgium means he's on the Crown's time and the Crown's dollar (or pound).

Flying to Corfu means he's on his time and his dollar.

In flying from Corfu to Scotland, then Scotland to Belgium, he's ensuring that there is a separation of expenses. It might ultimately all come out of the same pocket, but it's about appearances.

The issue isn't whether or not members of the BRF are allowed to go on vacation, or have "downtime", but rather that there is a clear separation between official work and vacation.

I'd add too that the downtime on official trips is somewhat different - a member of the BRF taking a day "off" while on a weeklong trip overseas is seen as acceptable because they're on a long trip. You don't typically see days off on trips that are shorter.
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Old 08-03-2017, 02:08 PM
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There were pictures of Charles and Camilla in Corfu last week. Does this mean Charles flew to Scotland from Corfu, then to Belgium, then back to Scotland, then back to Corfu? How odd
HE has carried out engagements in Scotland this week. I suspect that he's still in Scotland.
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