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Old 09-08-2022, 03:40 PM
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Old 10-01-2022, 10:36 AM
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King Charles has received the Prime Minister of St Vincent and the Grenadines, Ralph Gonsalves, and Eloise Gonsalves at Balmoral today, October 1:


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Old 10-01-2022, 05:06 PM
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The new PM is certainly off to an "interesting" start in the UK...
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Old 10-01-2022, 08:26 PM
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This confirms that he intends to step back from getting involved with policy. It's going to be difficult because he is so passionate about the environment.
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Old 10-01-2022, 08:44 PM
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This confirms that he intends to step back from getting involved with policy. It's going to be difficult because he is so passionate about the environment.
He has an heir who is equally passionate so it will still be raised by The Prince of Wales - just William rather than Charles.
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Old 10-01-2022, 10:08 PM
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I'm not sure this is even so much to do with climate advocacy—the late Queen spoke to COP26 and would have attended in person—as it is with sending the head of state to a new country. No British monarch has ever visited Egypt, and the government may not wish for that to happen at all, let alone in the context of a crowded summit. (I thought maybe the late Queen had at least transited through the Suez Canal in 1954, but she bypassed it by flying from Aden to Uganda and then Libya.)

The Queen didn't ever attend this kind of event abroad, except for the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meetings, and the government originally didn't want her going to those. The monarch heading delegations at summits (as opposed to acting as a host) would be a big change, and arguably a big expansion of the monarch's political role. I can see why the government would be cautious.
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Old 10-01-2022, 10:32 PM
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Unfortunately the Prince of Wales lacks the gravitas of the King. Charles's interest in "alternatives" was born of a deep love for the countryside and the knowledge that not everything has the ability to regenerate. His social responsibility toward housing his tenants in "living" environments and even building an entire village was just one of his many, many projects. Apart from the fact that he left his heir, the new POW, a flourishing countryside and the magnificent Highgrove Estate to illustrate his dedication to sustainability and climate change.

Unfortunately, William has a very, very small resume in this arena and in no way could he take his father's place, he just doesn't know enough or have done enough, to have experience. On the other hand, since the late Queen spoke a Cop and didn't disgrace herself and her country, we can only surmise that the new PM has just plain disrespected Charles and gave him a massive vote of no confidence.

What an incredible waste of an opportunity because Charles is well aware of his limits and would never embarrass himself or his country just as his mother did before him. The delegation he would have taken with him would have networked on a grand scale and he would have facilitated them with introductions that will possibly be not forthcoming.
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I have seen journalists pointing out that the story in the Times appears to have been briefed by the Palace. So while the headline is "Liz Truss advises King Charles to stay away from Cop27 climate summit", the real story is that KCIII isn't happy about it.
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Old 10-02-2022, 07:52 AM
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I have seen journalists pointing out that the story in the Times appears to have been briefed by the Palace. So while the headline is "Liz Truss advises King Charles to stay away from Cop27 climate summit", the real story is that KCIII isn't happy about it.
The King will do what the government advises. If the government advises the King not to attend then the King wont attend. Itís as simple as that.
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The King will do what the government advises. If the government advises the King not to attend then the King wont attend. Itís as simple as that.
I see it as him showing that while he will do what he's told, he won't do it quietly. It has resulted in an article that many people will think does not reflect well on an already unpopular PM.
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I see it as him showing that while he will do what he's told, he won't do it quietly. It has resulted in an article that many people will think does not reflect well on an already unpopular PM.
Is there any evidence that Charles "wont do it quietly?@
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Is there any evidence that Charles "wont do it quietly?@
The existence of the article. It either came from the government or the Palace. It has lengthy comment from a "Senior Royal Source" and the tone is sympathetic to KCIII in my opinion.
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Old 10-02-2022, 08:28 AM
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I see it as him showing that while he will do what he's told, he won't do it quietly. It has resulted in an article that many people will think does not reflect well on an already unpopular PM.
Where is the evidence?

This event is not a fair assessment as it was already known that The Prince of Wales aka Charles, was going to be attending.

Thus a decision for him not to attend now he is King always had to be made and he has simply indicated that he will be doing the government's bidding - as he is obliged to do.

Until we see events where we had no idea he wanted to attend and the government says no and he lets it be known he was stopped we don't know that he won't do as he is told 'quietly'.
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Where is the evidence?

This event is not a fair assessment as it was already known that The Prince of Wales aka Charles, was going to be attending.

Thus a decision for him not to attend now he is King always had to be made and he has simply indicated that he will be doing the government's bidding - as he is obliged to do.

Until we see events where we had no idea he wanted to attend and the government says no and he lets it be known he was stopped we don't know that he won't do as he is told 'quietly'.
If it had just been announced that he was no longer attending, we would have all assumed that it was his decision in his new role. We never needed to know about the government's input.
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The Guardian is an anti-royalist, anti-Conservative "newspaper", so I wouldn't take any article which it prints as being an accurate reflection of what's actually happening. More neutral sources suggest that it was agreed that Charles shouldn't attend as the climate crisis is seen by some to be political, and the King can't be seen to get involved in politics.

According to Sky News:

Sky News understands from palace sources that any suggestions his attendance was a point of disagreement is categorically untrue and that the decision not to attend was agreed in consultation.

It is likely that there may have been intense discussions about his attendance this year, especially when the climate crisis is still seen to be a "political" issue by some, and as King he is expected to remain politically neutral at all times.

It is understood that government advice was sought, advice was given and it was unanimously agreed by the palace and Number 10 that this would not be the right occasion for the King to go to the conference in person as his first overseas visit as sovereign.
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The Guardian is an anti-royalist, anti-Conservative "newspaper", so I wouldn't take any article which it prints as being an accurate reflection of what's actually happening. More neutral sources suggest that it was agreed that Charles shouldn't attend as the climate crisis is seen by some to be political, and the King can't be seen to get involved in politics.

According to Sky News:

Sky News understands from palace sources that any suggestions his attendance was a point of disagreement is categorically untrue and that the decision not to attend was agreed in consultation.

It is likely that there may have been intense discussions about his attendance this year, especially when the climate crisis is still seen to be a "political" issue by some, and as King he is expected to remain politically neutral at all times.

It is understood that government advice was sought, advice was given and it was unanimously agreed by the palace and Number 10 that this would not be the right occasion for the King to go to the conference in person as his first overseas visit as sovereign.
The original article is from the Sunday Times, The Guardian article above is basically reporting on the Times' report. (Is it acceptable to post an archive link to the Times article to get around the paywall?)

The comments from the Palace after the article have certainly been more diplomatic.
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Old 10-02-2022, 09:16 AM
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If it had just been announced that he was no longer attending, we would have all assumed that it was decision in his new role. We never needed to know about the government's input.
Anyone who knows how these things work at the level of the monarch will know that NO overseas visit is ever undertaken without the express approval of the government so any decision to withdraw, unless for medical reasons, will always be because the government said 'no'. It is the way it works. The monarch has the least amount of rights in the UK as they can't say anything or do anything without the approval of the government of the day. Charles has had to give up his freedom of speech, his freedom of movement, certainly going overseas and many other things the rest of us take for granted.
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King Charles received the Governor of Victoria, Australia, Linda Dessau, at Balmoral, today, October 5:


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Anyone who knows how these things work at the level of the monarch will know that NO overseas visit is ever undertaken without the express approval of the government so any decision to withdraw, unless for medical reasons, will always be because the government said 'no'. It is the way it works. The monarch has the least amount of rights in the UK as they can't say anything or do anything without the approval of the government of the day. Charles has had to give up his freedom of speech, his freedom of movement, certainly going overseas and many other things the rest of us take for granted.
Elizabeth II once argued, successfully, that she could visit Commonwealth countries and her other realms without consulting the UK government. IIRC it was during the 1960s and she went to a CHOGM meeting against the wishes of the UK PM at the time.

That being said, Charles III recognized a few years ago that his time of speaking his mind would end once he was King: "I'm not that stupid!"
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The Guardian is an anti-royalist, anti-Conservative "newspaper", so I wouldn't take any article which it prints as being an accurate reflection of what's actually happening. More neutral sources suggest that it was agreed that Charles shouldn't attend as the climate crisis is seen by some to be political, and the King can't be seen to get involved in politics.

According to Sky News:

Sky News understands from palace sources that any suggestions his attendance was a point of disagreement is categorically untrue and that the decision not to attend was agreed in consultation.

It is likely that there may have been intense discussions about his attendance this year, especially when the climate crisis is still seen to be a "political" issue by some, and as King he is expected to remain politically neutral at all times.

It is understood that government advice was sought, advice was given and it was unanimously agreed by the palace and Number 10 that this would not be the right occasion for the King to go to the conference in person as his first overseas visit as sovereign.
This news ended up in a Dutch comedy show that came up with 5 ways for Charles to defy the PM and still go to the conference. Check this video (starting at 5.18 - although for those who understand Dutch you might want to start at 3.30):

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