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Old 11-19-2022, 05:07 PM
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Her Majesty Queen Camilla as far as I know has the role of Queen Consort like The Queen Mother, Queen Mary and Queen Alexandra and like our foreign Queen Consorts now. Our past Queen Consorts were styled HM The Queen when their husbands were King and then HM Queen whatever their first name was. They carried out exactly the same role as Queen Camilla now so why is she still called The Queen Consort? To me it is demeaning her and insulting her as if she has a lesser title which we know she has not

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Old 11-19-2022, 05:15 PM
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Her Majesty Queen Camilla as far as I know has the role of Queen Consort like The Queen Mother, Queen Mary and Queen Alexandra and like our foreign Queen Consorts now. Our past Queen Consorts were styled HM The Queen when their husbands were King and then HM Queen whatever their first name was. They carried out exactly the same role as Queen Camilla now so why is she still called The Queen Consort? To me it is demeaning her and insulting her as if she has a lesser title which we know she has not

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I think it’s a compromise and eventually the consort part will be quietly dropped.
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Old 11-19-2022, 05:21 PM
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Her Majesty Queen Camilla as far as I know has the role of Queen Consort like The Queen Mother, Queen Mary and Queen Alexandra and like our foreign Queen Consorts now. Our past Queen Consorts were styled HM The Queen when their husbands were King and then HM Queen whatever their first name was. They carried out exactly the same role as Queen Camilla now so why is she still called The Queen Consort? To me it is demeaning her and insulting her as if she has a lesser title which we know she has not

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Someone searched through the newspapers during the ascention of Edward&Alexandra, George V&Mary and George VI&Elisabeth. All were named Queen first name/Queen Consort/the Queen all at one and at the same time. All of them ending with being called Queen first name. So the seemingly emphasis on Consort is not special at all.
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Old 11-19-2022, 05:22 PM
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Her Majesty Queen Camilla as far as I know has the role of Queen Consort like The Queen Mother, Queen Mary and Queen Alexandra and like our foreign Queen Consorts now. Our past Queen Consorts were styled HM The Queen when their husbands were King and then HM Queen whatever their first name was. They carried out exactly the same role as Queen Camilla now so why is she still called The Queen Consort? To me it is demeaning her and insulting her as if she has a lesser title which we know she has not

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Actually they were all styled "HM The Queen" while their husbands were alive. The first names only came when they were widowed.

Since the former Queen Elizabeth herself told us that Camilla would be called "The Queen Consort" (exactly that), no, I don't find it insulting.

Prince Albert had to wait 17 years after his marriage to Queen Victoria to get the title of "The Prince Consort". Why would something that's considered an honor for a man be an insult and demeaning for a woman?
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Old 11-19-2022, 06:24 PM
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Her Majesty Queen Camilla as far as I know has the role of Queen Consort like The Queen Mother, Queen Mary and Queen Alexandra and like our foreign Queen Consorts now. Our past Queen Consorts were styled HM The Queen when their husbands were King and then HM Queen whatever their first name was. They carried out exactly the same role as Queen Camilla now so why is she still called The Queen Consort? To me it is demeaning her and insulting her as if she has a lesser title which we know she has not

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Because that it the title that the King uses for her.

On the day the late Queen died the official announcement, which would have been approved by Charles was that The King and Queen CONSORT would be staying at Balmoral overnight and return to London the next day.

In his first address to the nation Charles referred to as his Queen CONSORT not his Queen.

In the Royal Warrant he issued to the Church of England on the wording of the new prayers for the Royal family her referred to her as The Queen CONSORT - basically stating by the most senior means he has to making a law he used the term The Queen CONSORT.

On the programme for the events around the late Queen's death, including her funeral, all approved by Charles, she was the Queen Consort.

The Court Circular - again approved daily by The King says 'The Queen Consort'.

She is being called The Queen Consort because that it the title The King is using for his wife.

The Royal Warrant is the most telling as that document has the status of a law in the CoE and can only be changed by issuing another such document.

https://lawandreligionuk.com/2022/09...ost-accession/

Every prayer for the Royal Family contained in any form of service authorized for use in the Church of England, instead of the words ‘Philip Duke of Edinburgh, Charles Prince of Wales’ the words ‘Camilla the Queen Consort, William Prince of Wales, the Princess of Wales’ should be inserted. The Prayer for the Royal Family now reads:

Almighty God, the fountain of all goodness, we humbly beseech thee to bless Camilla the Queen Consort, William Prince of Wales, the Princess of Wales and all the Royal Family : Endue them with thy Holy Spirit ; enrich them with thy heavenly grace ; prosper them with all happiness ; and bring them to thine everlasting kingdom ; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.
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The Proclamation of the accession of Charles III as King of Canada has been published in the Canada Gazette. It is signed by the Governor General of Canada, Mary May Simon, and countersigned, among others, by the Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau. It is an interesting read.

EDIT: I also located an online copy of the Proclamation of Charles III as King of Australia , signed by Governor-General General David Hurley and Prime Minister Anthony Albanese.
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