The Memorial Service: August 31, 2007 - Page 16

Winnie · #**301** 09-03-2016, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Osipi

The more I've thought about it, the more I'm inclined to think it would be best all the way around is that if there is to be a 20th anniversary memorial service, make it private for just family and friends of Diana. No media and nothing released to the public. That way, those that do attend can remember Diana in peace and not have the tabloids or the internet saturated with varying opinions.

I certainly agree with that. Plus the news media does not have to be advised until the service is well and truly over and all attending home. Many of these Memorials are held in private homes which really makes a closer family and true friends affair. The only one I actually was able to attend was after 10 years and even that was a very quiet personal time to reflect on the memories and fun times of a loved one. Actually didn't do a thing for me as I always though of the deceased daily. Everyone is different. I didn't need a gathering.

TLLK · #**302** 09-04-2016, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Osipi

The more I've thought about it, the more I'm inclined to think it would be best all the way around is that if there is to be a 20th anniversary memorial service, make it private for just family and friends of Diana. No media and nothing released to the public. That way, those that do attend can remember Diana in peace and not have the tabloids or the internet saturated with varying opinions.

An excellent suggestion Osipi. Her sons have honored her publicly, but now I do believe that enough time has passed that they should be able to hold a private service without press interference.

Denville · #**303** 09-05-2016, 12:45 AM

If that happens say next year I wonder if Camilla woudld be invited? or would it just be William and Harry and close friends and the Spencer family.

Osipi · #**304** 09-05-2016, 04:19 AM

That would be totally up to them. None of our business.

Denville · #**305** 09-07-2016, 02:10 AM

but that's surely the issue, Camilla was invited to the 2007 service because of its being a public event and they wanted to show family unity. But there was such a public outcry tthat it was obviously best that she did not attend. If there's a private event, I wonder if they'd ask Camilla, or would it still be a sore point

Countessmeout · #**306** 09-07-2016, 03:19 AM

Unlike the public, Diana's loved ones will care more about her and her sons than about scandal. If the boys want Camilla to attend, I don't see anyone vetoing it. As her sons, their opinions and feelings are the highest priority.

Winnie · #**307** 09-07-2016, 09:39 AM

I don't believe that her sons should care what the public thinks. It is their mother and they will do what they like and invite who they want. If the public doesn't approve their decision and they are so unhappy, let them have an event in their own homes for a memorial service if they feel they need a special gathering. The boys have honored their mother just by talking about her in many interviews which to me is sweeter and more loving than a big public display on a certain death anniversary. I would rather see her birthday remembered in media as a sweet time and not morbid awful death.

Denville · #**308** 09-07-2016, 10:38 AM

Clearly her sons DO care what the public thinks as the RF in general does....

Osipi · #**309** 09-07-2016, 11:13 AM

I disagree. When it comes to their private lives and, lets take Diana's 20th private memorial service for example, the family shouldn't give a fig what the public thinks or believes or has an opinion on. The public opinion in public matters does count for something if only as guidelines of the "feel" of the people but by no means is public opinion ever the basis for *any* decision made by the BRF.

Mermaid1962 · #**310** 09-08-2016, 05:57 PM

Perhaps they won't have any kind of memorial next year and will wait until the 25th anniversary, in 2022. My goodness, that sounds like a science-fiction year.

Denville · #**311** 09-08-2016, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Osipi

I disagree. When it comes to their private lives and, lets take Diana's 20th private memorial service for example, the family shouldn't give a fig what the public thinks or believes or has an opinion on. The public opinion in public matters does count for something if only as guidelines of the "feel" of the people but by no means is public opinion ever the basis for *any* decision made by the BRF.

It is very often a very important part of what brings them to do things. I dnt believe that Diana would have had a public funeral, if it hadn't been for the fact that the public feeling wanted it.

Osipi · #**312** 09-08-2016, 11:06 PM

Actually, it was Charles that insisted on public funeral pulling out all the bells and whistles that they could muster. The public had nothing to do with it.

Curryong · #**313** 09-09-2016, 01:06 AM

I suppose we shall never really know how the arrangements were thrashed out but this report is from September 1997.

CNN - Royal family denies row over Diana's funeral - September 8, 1997

Denville · #**314** 09-09-2016, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Osipi

Actually, it was Charles that insisted on public funeral pulling out all the bells and whistles that they could muster. The public had nothing to do with it.

Er yes they kind of did. It was up to the Spencers as Di's family and they have siad that they expected and intended a private funeral. But when they saw the crowds in London on the Sunday they realised that they had to include the public in her farewell. And reports vary about Charles. He may have wanted to give Diana a public funeral but some have said that he was in a wet and miserable state at the time.. and didn't do anything very mcuh. I thtink myself that he did want to let her have a royhal funeral and did get invovled in the organisation, but other reports say he was too depressed and self pitying, because he felt that everyone woudl blame him...to do very much.

Lumutqueen · #**315** 09-09-2016, 05:19 AM

I've never heard anything about Charles being openly depressed. Which I imagine he was.
The Spencers wanted a private funeral, but I have always consistently heard that Charles was the one who pushed for a public funeral even against his mother simply because of the person Diana was. She was the mother of a future King, and whilst divorced from the heir to the throne, even in my mind she deserved a royal funeral. The Spencers have their private element in where she was laid to rest, although i've never seen Charles S as a private person.

Osipi · #**316** 09-09-2016, 08:00 AM

All in all, throughout the whole period from the death in Paris to the internment at Althorp, Charles acted above and beyond the call of an ex-husband in my book. He didn't have to go to Paris to bring Diana home yet he did. From all accounts, he was right in there with the funeral planning (they used the Tay Bridge model for the procession of the cortege which was the Queen' Mum's funeral plan) where he didn't have to as an ex-husband. He walked with his sons behind the casket with his ex-brother-in-law and his father which would have been excusable for Charles if he didn't as he is the ex-husband but there he was.

Diana's death affected him deeply and it showed. Even though the marriage was over and these two people just couldn't live together, that doesn't mean that all feelings towards each other were based on negative emotions.

Mermaid1962 · #**317** 09-10-2016, 02:43 PM

Yes, agreed. Prince Charles' behaviour was impressive that week. He behaved as though Diana was still The Princess of Wales.

Dman · #**318** 09-10-2016, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Osipi

All in all, throughout the whole period from the death in Paris to the internment at Althorp, Charles acted above and beyond the call of an ex-husband in my book. He didn't have to go to Paris to bring Diana home yet he did. From all accounts, he was right in there with the funeral planning (they used the Tay Bridge model for the procession of the cortege which was the Queen' Mum's funeral plan) where he didn't have to as an ex-husband. He walked with his sons behind the casket with his ex-brother-in-law and his father which would have been excusable for Charles if he didn't as he is the ex-husband but there he was.

Diana's death affected him deeply and it showed. Even though the marriage was over and these two people just couldn't live together, that doesn't mean that all feelings towards each other were based on negative emotions.

Osipi, I totally agree with you!

Denville · #**319** 07-21-2017, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Lumutqueen

I've never heard anything about Charles being openly depressed. Which I imagine he was.
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there are certainly reports that Charles was saying "they're all going to blame me" and very upset and depressed..

Denville · #**320** 07-21-2017, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Osipi

All in all, throughout the whole period from the death in Paris to the internment at Althorp, Charles acted above and beyond the call of an ex-husband in my book. He didn't have to go to Paris to bring Diana home yet he did. Diana's death affected him deeply and it showed. Even though the marriage was over and these two people just couldn't live together, that doesn't mean that all feelings towards each other were based on negative emotions.

I agree that he was upset By Di's death. however he DID have to step up and do these various things because Dian's boys who were her nearest family, were too young to do such things as go to Paris, arrange the funeral or walk alone in the funeral procession.