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Old 08-28-2016, 02:18 AM
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Ah, Victoria, thank heavens you can't see into some of my old photo albums! I wore and was quite fond of pie crust collar blouses worn with dark brown velvet knickerbockers! Diana popularised those and they became VERY popular. And some of us quite like Diana's wedding dress which, with the long veil, was very suitable for the vastness of St Pauls. What people think stylish and lovely in one decade is regarded as horrendous in the next and laughable by generations following. That's the joy and the fun of fashion!
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Old 08-28-2016, 02:22 AM
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I think she was trying to look "country girl" like in that sort of outfit. Did they become popular? IM not really into style and fashion, in the present day though I do like to read about the history of clothes.
but I do remember pie crust blouses and long skirts with a petticoat showing beneath them.. I wore a few of them..
I think that they suited Diana when she was v. young, as she grew older, she adapted her wardrobe, wore the simple shifts and little suits.. She was good at recognising when it was time to revamp...
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Old 08-28-2016, 03:30 AM
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Ah, Victoria, thank heavens you can't see into some of my old photo albums! I wore and was quite fond of pie crust collar blouses worn with dark brown velvet knickerbockers! Diana popularised those and they became VERY popular. And some of us quite like Diana's wedding dress which, with the long veil, was very suitable for the vastness of St Pauls. What, people think stylish and lovely in one decade is regarded as horrendous in the next and laughable by generations following. That's the joy and the fun of fashion!

Oh, I agree and I would hate anyone to see my old photos too. I think Diana's wedding dress was at the extremes in that I think you either loved it or hated it. I don't think it was a dress where there was a shrug of the shoulders and an "it's ok" type reaction. I personally think there was too much going on but then again, I'm a fan of simplicity.

I look back now on the fashions of the 80s (that I wore) and agree with those who said it was the decade that style forgot but I'd rather the big "dynasty" shoulders etc than the fashions of the Kardashians today etc. Like you say though, what one decade is stylish the next most definitely is not.

I think a lot of people would struggle finding their sense of style when they were first thrust into the public eye and the fact that Diana had to do it at the age of 19/20 it's no wonder there were hits and misses. Just for the record, I do think she often looked stylish in the early years of her marriage but, personally, I think it was hit and miss whereas towards the end of her life I think she rarely put a foot wrong.
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Old 08-28-2016, 04:57 AM
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What people think stylish and lovely in one decade is regarded as horrendous in the next and laughable by generations following. That's the joy and the fun of fashion!
Oh so very true! The 80s is depicted as the decade fashion forgot! No way! We looked great!!

She was only mid 30s when she left us, so I imagine Diana had great fun adjusting to the various fashion trends.

I agree, the engagement suit would have been more suited to someone her mother's age than the teenager she was ...... of course there was the fact that the age gap had to be downsized in some format!

The wedding dress - well she does look beautiful in the pics - but very obviously the fairy tale princess wedding dress of the day a teenager might dream up.

She looked just as photo perfect in jeans baseball cap and sweatshirt as in designer.
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Old 08-28-2016, 05:18 AM
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I agree that while there was a lot of vulgarity in 80s fashions it was better than the skin tight/too short/too low cut things that seem to have come afterwards. Or the gruesome fashion of skimpy tops that show the stomach, and saggy pants that slither down and show off underwear.
I think that Diana's wedding dress was very suitable for what it was, the dress of a young beautiful girl marrying into a royal family, with a TV ceremony. It had to stand out, for long shots and to have a bit of detail on it for close ups.
My only real beef is that I think she could have worn a bit of jewellery with it, without looking "too fancy". A necklace and maybe a brooch or bracelet...
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Old 09-01-2016, 11:53 PM
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I particularly remember the knickerbockers because it was my first year of university and I was very aware of what other girls were wearing. The trend didn't last very long, but it was definitely there that winter and spring of 1980/1981.

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Old 09-02-2016, 02:07 AM
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I must say I Dotn think I ever saw anyone wearing them.. but the pie crust frill blouses, and the long skirts with petticoats and rathter fussy dresses were around everywhere. I had a Laura AShley for "special events" (I was veyr poor), and loose Indian style dresses were also seen.
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Old 09-13-2016, 11:00 PM
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Call to rename Cardiff Airport after Princess Diana - BBC News

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...rport-11881752
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Old 09-14-2016, 01:14 AM
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I think that would be a lovely, lovely tribute to Diana in what is coming up, the twentieth anniversary of her death. However, I do think a country's airports and public buildings in major cities should be named after prominent local and national identities.
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Old 11-15-2016, 08:55 AM
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New Diana exhibition at Kensington Palace opens February 2017 | Historic Royal Palaces
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Old 11-17-2016, 10:11 AM
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This post could equally belong in the Spencer, Diana Legacy or other threads. Let's not go off topic but stay on the KP theme. Or Mods, move this. Regarding: New Diana exhibition at Kensington Palace opens February 2017 | Historic Royal Palaces
In the interest of fairness, I just want to say, I'm not so sold on this exhibit at KP from Historic Royal Places.
I've read so often on the Spencer thread that the family is just cashing in on her memory. I've read so many people post here that Wills and Harry are offended by what the Spencers have done with her legacy. I know I believe there is more to Royal History than the past 20 years and fashion.
Well, while I understand the timing of this exhibit, I think this can be lumped with said Spencer-ish behavior. If it's bad from the gander, can it be wonderful coming from the goose?
How many exhibits of Diana's fashion have we seen over the years? Did KP need to do one more? Obviously, this exhibit will make money. But the mission of HRP: "Our Cause is to help everyone explore the story of how monarchs and people have shaped society, in some of the greatest palaces ever built."
I guess it just makes me sad to see HRP making what I see as a fairly obvious and well-worn money grab when there is so much other royal history they could be exploring.
Hate on me if you like, I just had to share that. And in the interest of further disclosure, were I in London in March, I would go see KP and I would see this exhibit. I'd still wish it were something else that was new learning and not a rehash of what we have seen over and over for more than 20 years.
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Old 11-17-2016, 10:40 AM
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This post could equally belong in the Spencer, Diana Legacy or other threads. Let's not go off topic but stay on the KP theme. Or Mods, move this. Regarding: New Diana exhibition at Kensington Palace opens February 2017 | Historic Royal Palaces
In the interest of fairness, I just want to say, I'm not so sold on this exhibit at KP from Historic Royal Places.
I've read so often on the Spencer thread that the family is just cashing in on her memory. I've read so many people post here that Wills and Harry are offended by what the Spencers have done with her legacy. I know I believe there is more to Royal History than the past 20 years and fashion.
Well, while I understand the timing of this exhibit, I think this can be lumped with said Spencer-ish behavior. If it's bad from the gander, can it be wonderful coming from the goose?
How many exhibits of Diana's fashion have we seen over the years? Did KP need to do one more? Obviously, this exhibit will make money. But the mission of HRP: "Our Cause is to help everyone explore the story of how monarchs and people have shaped society, in some of the greatest palaces ever built."
I guess it just makes me sad to see HRP making what I see as a fairly obvious and well-worn money grab when there is so much other royal history they could be exploring.
Hate on me if you like, I just had to share that. And in the interest of further disclosure, were I in London in March, I would go see KP and I would see this exhibit. I'd still wish it were something else that was new learning and not a rehash of what we have seen over and over for more than 20 years.
I agree 100%. Is her legacy just her clothes? because thats what this looks like. They could add areas covering her work re HIV/AIDS and lndmine clearance.

I have some sympathy with HRP which is a charity and need to earn money to maintain buildings and conserve treasures but they need to broaden the subject matter.
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Old 11-17-2016, 12:18 PM
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They have a limited amount of space and a need to have people come to a see a palace that is open all the time and may have already visited. The best way to do this is display famous clothing.

Its not any different than what the royal collection does for their summer opening. The temporary exhibit they put in is usually clothing base. This year was Fashioning a Reign which featured clothing worn by the Queen.
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Old 11-22-2016, 01:09 PM
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Diana's clothing is part of the history of the BRF. As such, it's a legitimate subject for display. Those dresses are works of art.
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Old 11-22-2016, 06:52 PM
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They have a limited amount of space and a need to have people come to a see a palace that is open all the time and may have already visited. The best way to do this is display famous clothing.

Its not any different than what the royal collection does for their summer opening. The temporary exhibit they put in is usually clothing base. This year was Fashioning a Reign which featured clothing worn by the Queen.
Well, I'm in the midst of a clothing display event and have a reason to differ with this.
I belong to a social group with many couples in it. The Dressing Downton Exhibit is here and some of our members thought it would be fun to see this as a group. So, I've polled people to see if they were interested and if so, when.
Well we will have a robust group of women going as not a single man in the group had any interest. Not everyone is into fashion. As I have learned.
And there are interesting other kinds of topics out there for historic venues. Architectural choices/details/additions/renovations can look not only at architecture but economics, finance, building methods, craftsmanship, politics, etc.
A history of military units, transportation, Royal Warrants or food at KP are things that spring to mind that would be of interest to a wide audience. I am certain there are many more.
Displays of Diana's fashion started before she died. It's time to give it a rest.
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Old 11-26-2016, 04:35 AM
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I imagine Diana had had enough of towers, royal or otherwise by then!

Not that that would stop The Donald!
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Old 12-04-2016, 12:46 PM
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It's sad to read that she was personally looking forward to 1997, of course, not knowing her life would end in the new year.

Her heart was always with other people.
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Old 12-09-2016, 03:02 PM
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How many exhibits of Diana's fashion have we seen over the years? Did KP need to do one more? Obviously, this exhibit will make money. But the mission of HRP: "Our Cause is to help everyone explore the story of how monarchs and people have shaped society, in some of the greatest palaces ever built."
I guess it just makes me sad to see HRP making what I see as a fairly obvious and well-worn money grab when there is so much other royal history they could be exploring.
Hate on me if you like, I just had to share that. And in the interest of further disclosure, were I in London in March, I would go see KP and I would see this exhibit. I'd still wish it were something else that was new learning and not a rehash of what we have seen over and over for more than 20 years.

Museums (and KP is mostly a museum) must put on exhibits that people would like to see.

There's no point in spending staff time and funds to mount a display that not very many people will be interested in.

This is true of many venues. If you work for a non-profit, you quickly learn that certain things are sure-fire money-makers.
(An exhibit on Ancient Egypt, for instance, will always generate a crowd.
Or an art exhibit that focuses on the Impressionists will get more traffic than one focusing on Primitive sculpture).

I'm not trying to exalt one over the other, I'm just saying that is the way it is. If you are going to invest your resources in a costly time-consuming exhibit, you want a decent turn-out.
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Old 12-09-2016, 03:41 PM
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KP basically promotes the royals with ties to the location. The big 2 for KP are Victoria and Diana. An exhibition about Queen Anne isn't going to draw people to the palace and the palace isn't going to put an exhibition about Anne Boleyn and Henry VIII at KP where they have no ties to. That would go to Hampton Court.
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Old 12-15-2016, 06:38 AM
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I don't think it's surprising considering the circumstances (that Camilla launched this initiative.) I do think it's a pity, however.
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