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Old 05-20-2018, 05:02 AM
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The question is not being asked : does he deserve to be even more reviled or hated by detractors for such a stunt; showing up uninvited to someone's wedding ?

Seems a little harsh to equate that with him being some type of scoundrel...as newspaper comments suggest.

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Old 05-20-2018, 05:06 AM
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I suppose the scoundrel part comes from him selling out secrets of his dead employer and milking it for 2+ decades.
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Old 05-20-2018, 05:14 AM
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That and blackmailing HM. He had no right to remove any of Diana's property from her apartment. I always wondered what he took, what he still had, that made HM suddenly remember she gave him permission to take Diana's private possessions "for safekeeping". As if!

I have to admit to uncharitable feelings when he tried to crash the wedding. I loved it when he was escorted away.
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Old 05-20-2018, 05:14 AM
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This man is a RAT. period.
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Old 05-20-2018, 05:18 AM
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That and blackmailing HM. He had no right to remove any of Diana's property from her apartment. I always wondered what he took, what he still had, that made HM suddenly remember she gave him permission to take Diana's private possessions "for safekeeping". As if!

I have to admit to uncharitable feelings when he tried to crash the wedding. I loved it when he was escorted away.
I missed that part. Had no clue Burrell was even in Windsor. Perhaps he met up with Tom Markle, Jr. after being escorted away and they drowned their sorrows together at some incongruous pub somewhere.
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Old 05-20-2018, 05:19 AM
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I do wonder about this man's mental health. Instead of sitting comfortably at home with his husband and a glass of champagne to toast the new couple in front of the telly, he hangs around St George's in Diana's gifts of cuff links and tie in the hopes of injecting himself somehow into the Harry/Meghan story. This is desperation for a few minutes more of fame or a rather pathetic obsession long past its use by date.
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Old 05-20-2018, 06:28 AM
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I do wonder about this man's mental health. Instead of sitting comfortably at home with his husband and a glass of champagne to toast the new couple in front of the telly, he hangs around St George's in Diana's gifts of cuff links and tie in the hopes of injecting himself somehow into the Harry/Meghan story. This is desperation for a few minutes more of fame or a rather pathetic obsession long past its use by date.

Perhaps it was the one time in his life when he felt he really mattered and was important to someone else's life. I imagine it would be hard to let go of the feeling of self importance one would get from that.
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Old 05-20-2018, 10:47 AM
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That is quite true, but people who are stable and happy just keep their wonderful memories but then move on to another stage in their lives. Burrell hasn't been married to his boyfriend very long either, saying at the time that he'd met the love of his life.

Paul came here to Australia fairly recently to be in our version of I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out of Here. His conversation naturally centred around Diana, but at a couple of points Paul became very upset about her. To me that points to someone who is completely obsessed and isn't moving forward from it.
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Old 05-20-2018, 03:22 PM
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During the pre-celebration of the wedding and over the entire weekend we were treated to heartfelt segments concerning mental health, with a speaking out on behalf of the idea of helping such people. Yet his longheld position, and servitude counted to few people, with one exception..Diana.

The fact he's been shunned is not in keeping with any spirit of kindness on behalf of a guy whose life is a struggle compared to the one he once had. Obviously not on the guest list, or seen in the church.. Can any of us imagine an alternate scenario -- Harry personally intervenes to extend an olive branch, whereby Paul is given a seat right next to Elton John.




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I do wonder about this man's mental health. Instead of sitting comfortably at home with his husband and a glass of champagne to toast the new couple in front of the telly, he hangs around St George's in Diana's gifts of cuff links and tie in the hopes of injecting himself somehow into the Harry/Meghan story. This is desperation for a few minutes more of fame or a rather pathetic obsession long past its use by date.
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Old 05-20-2018, 03:34 PM
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We have to remember too that Paul Burrell, as much as he likes to portray himself as a "rock" and "in the know" about Diana's life, in reality what it boils down to is that he was an employee in Diana's household after her divorce. That ended any connection that he had with the royal family and even William and Harry except for when they stayed at KP with Diana.

I didn't see or hear of any other of Diana's staff invited to the wedding and it was purely Burrell's ego that made him even think about approaching the wedding with hopes of being let in. He should have known better.
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Old 05-20-2018, 04:01 PM
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Was hoping for an honest opinion, with examples to substantiate a point. I've seen him on TV but am not sure why it is a bad thing. Sales of the book must have been enormous for this level of tongue lashing, animosity to prevail.
I think it's the book combined with how he keeps trying to cash in on his connection to her, including appearances on reality shows like "I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here (twice in UK and Australia) and Celebrity Big Brother UK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Burrell#Media_career

I also agree (having read some of what he's said and written) that he is obsessed with Diana and it isn't healthy.
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Old 05-21-2018, 01:16 AM
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I think it's the book combined with how he keeps trying to cash in on his connection to her, including appearances on reality shows like "I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here (twice in UK and Australia) and Celebrity Big Brother UK.

I also agree (having read some of what he's said and written) that he is obsessed with Diana...
Career and financial well being mean a lot to the public but...I think if some took a step back from that to look at what actually happened back then, they might see a person whose life took a tremendous hit, then snowballed further from there with the trial and trauma involved. For a number of years he had a real joy in his life despite the rigors that went with it. He found after Diana that it would never measure up to what it had been. William and Harry are chagrinned with him..that does not help his overall popularity.

Money doesn't fix those things.
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Old 05-21-2018, 02:46 AM
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Career and financial well being mean a lot to the public but...I think if some took a step back from finances to look at what actually happened back then, they might see a person whose life took a tremendous dive, then snowballed further from there with the trial and trauma involved. For a number of years he had a real joy in his life despite the rigors that went with it. He found after Diana that life would never measure up to what it had been. William and Harry are chagrinned with him..that does not help his overall popularity.

Money doesn't fix those things.
he is still obsessed 20 years later with someone he worked for, whom according to some reports was increasingly unhappy with his behaviour and who was saying things like "hel'll have to go." Not to mention taking her things, still trying to get on the news at her son's wedding 20 years later? If he really cant' move on from an emotional attachment to Diana at this stage, he needs therapy. he has just gotten married.. why not be happy with his new partner, remember Diana in private and be glad that he now has a good life?
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I agree. Can't stand the man.
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Old 07-05-2018, 05:12 PM
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he is still obsessed 20 years later with someone he worked for, whom according to some reports was increasingly unhappy with his behaviour and who was saying things like "he'll have to go." Not to mention taking her things, still trying to get on the news at her son's wedding 20 years later? If he really cant' move on from an emotional attachment to Diana at this stage, he needs therapy. he has just gotten married.. why not be happy with his new partner, remember Diana in private and be glad that he now has a good life?
When Julie Andrew's Calif. home became a prospect for purchase, it was Paul she showed the brochure to, asking what he thought, and the quarters he would reside in. Trusted as he had been with arsenal of small and large tasks, 'letting him go' then having to start from scratch with other hired help..sounds less than gratifying vs : the ability for decisive quick action taken in past or present circumstance knowing he would intuitively deliver in a manner expected.
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Old 07-05-2018, 05:30 PM
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I believe the problem for Mr Burrell is that people and the media endlessly keep asking him about his time with the Princess.
If you met Paul Burrell at a dinner party what else would anyone want to discuss with him.?
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Old 07-05-2018, 06:12 PM
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When Julie Andrew's Calif. home became a prospect for purchase, it was Paul she showed the brochure to, asking what he thought, and the quarters he would reside in. Trusted as he had been with arsenal of small and large tasks, 'letting him go' then having to start from scratch with other hired help..sounds less than gratifying vs : the ability for decisive quick action taken in past or present circumstance knowing he would intuitively deliver in a manner expected.
What does this have to do with anything that is being discussed.
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Old 07-05-2018, 06:55 PM
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What does this have to do with anything that is being discussed.
The prospect of Diana starting a new life while severing ties with Paul.
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Old 07-06-2018, 12:44 AM
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IM sure she coud find another butler who was not likely to snoop among her private papers, and take her things if she passed away...
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Old 07-06-2018, 01:36 AM
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Denville, if the story of his wife working for Diana in official capacity is an indication, letting him go was the last thing she would've done. Maria worked as her dresser at the time, one day asked to sit down with Diana, announcing she would not be serving in the role much longer..

The $hit hit the fan that day with something on the order, "How could you do this to me after all I've done for you? " Maria was speechless and hurt by it, but it shows how much Diana came to value certain people close to her, and counted upon in her employ.

Maria would get irate when Diana sometimes rang him (in bed) after 12 hour days with some snag or other to work out. Paul would explain it later to calm her down. An estimate should be factored that, however much she valued Maria...multiply 100X's that amount when it came to Paul.
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