Diana's Legacy: What is left or what will be left? - Page 111

Rayal · #**2201** 05-21-2020, 08:22 PM

Something about bronze sculpting that does not do well for an elegant lady. It seems to make them look much older than they really are. In fact several of the different metals used in most sculptures tend to accentuate wrinkles and teeth so much that in some cases they are almost hideous looking. I'm wondering if they would possibly consider hyper-realism. They have some of the best sculptors in the world right there in London such as Ron Mueck or Duane Hanson. Of course their work would not be appropriate for outdoors, although indoors it might seem too eerie as well. Just thinking out loud...don't mind me.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hype...w=1360&bih=598

Denville · #**2202** 05-21-2020, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TLLK

I agree that the brothers do want to see a stature erected in Diana's memory. It would appear that based upon their actions, they and their committee believe that the 20th anniversary of her death was the appropriate time to announce their plan for the statue. Unfortunately their projected timeline to have it created and erected was not a feasible one.

We'll just have to wait until we hear further updates on the statue.

I wonder if it has been shelved. With harry moving away, he has a lot on his mind and with the pandemic, it isn't IMO likely to be completed any time soon...

Rayal · #**2203** 05-21-2020, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Denville

I wonder if it has been shelved. With harry moving away, he has a lot on his mind and with the pandemic, it isn't IMO likely to be completed any time soon...

I'm only speculating Denville, but I'm sure by now they have been able to express to the artist Ian Rank-Broadley, of what they are wanting in the past year or so. I would think he is probably taking his own sweet time to get it right. I have checked and found no new information though....so you also could have a very valid point.

TLLK · #**2204** 05-21-2020, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rayal

Something about bronze sculpting that does not do well for an elegant lady. It seems to make them look much older than they really are. In fact several of the different metals used in most sculptures tend to accentuate wrinkles and teeth so much that in some cases they are almost hideous looking. I'm wondering if they would possibly consider hyper-realism. They have some of the best sculptors in the world right there in London such as Ron Mueck or Duane Hanson. Of course their work would not be appropriate for outdoors, although indoors it might seem too eerie as well. Just thinking out loud...don't mind me.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hype...w=1360&bih=598

Definitely an interesting choice of sculpture, however I believe your concerns about the piece withstanding the weather is likely why they'd go for a bronze.

Denville · #**2205** 05-23-2020, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rayal

I'm only speculating Denville, but I'm sure by now they have been able to express to the artist Ian Rank-Broadley, of what they are wanting in the past year or so. I would think he is probably taking his own sweet time to get it right. I have checked and found no new information though....so you also could have a very valid point.

At the moment the artist could go on iwht his work, as far as I know, it is not something that one needs to have a lot of close contact with people to do it.. But it seems to have disappeared off the radar since last summer and of course Harry's living abroad, and even before the pandemic, it kind of feels like it was on hold/delayed. Possibly there are disagreements with the artist about how the work's turning out... or possibly with all that's been happening both before and since the Covid crisis, it just has been shelved. I just don't think a statue is right for Diana. Statues are OK for old generals, but her beauty was a vivid lifelike thing.. and a statue wont capture it...

Queen Claude · #**2206** 05-23-2020, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rayal

I'm only speculating Denville, but I'm sure by now they have been able to express to the artist Ian Rank-Broadley, of what they are wanting in the past year or so. I would think he is probably taking his own sweet time to get it right. I have checked and found no new information though....so you also could have a very valid point.

Thanks for naming the sculptor. I googled him and like his work, hopefully he will do Diana justice.

victoriaalix · #**2207** 05-23-2020, 12:09 PM

I took a look at the Roll of Honour for 2019 of The Diana Award and I'm actually amazed that there are people who came from countries outside of the Commonwealth (or even from countries outside of those previously colonized by the UK) who were able to receive the award. This is just to show that Princess Diana's legacy is not just confined to countries outside the Commonwealth, or to those countries that were former UK colonies.

Elan · #**2208** 05-24-2020, 06:48 AM

Some more realism...from the past :

https://smarthistory.org/tag/ancient...ssical-period/

Mirabel · #**2209** 05-24-2020, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Denville

I just don't think a statue is right for Diana. Statues are OK for old generals, but her beauty was a vivid lifelike thing.. and a statue wont capture it...

Probably not.
Also, such statues tend to get graffitied if let unattended for long.

Still, if that's what her sons want, it is harmless.

Denville · #**2210** 05-24-2020, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mirabel

Probably not.
Also, such statues tend to get graffitied if let unattended for long.

Still, if that's what her sons want, it is harmless.

true.. I woud have liked to see a memorial to her, other than things like awards.. something visual like a portrait, or even maybe a marble statue that was good...but It would have to be something indoors...
.. but its never worked out very well. Look at the Fountain, it was an awful mistake.
And W and Harry IMO have left it on the long finger for a very long time.. to do something. they are grown men now for many years...and they could have done something to memorialise her ages ago.

Sandy345 · #**2211** 07-15-2020, 08:22 PM

I think a memorial statue of Diana would be appropriate.

Denville · #**2212** 07-16-2020, 11:41 AM

Doesn't seem to be happening...

Lee-Z · #**2213** 07-16-2020, 01:49 PM

Maybe if a memorial is made something like the idea of the 'picture on a marker' is appropriate, then iconic pictures could be chosen as-is

like at the Parcourse Princesse Grace in Monaco:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...vR0SHhNDffI1Dg

Denville · #**2214** 07-16-2020, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee-Z

Maybe if a memorial is made something like the idea of the 'picture on a marker' is appropriate, then iconic pictures could be chosen as-is

like at the Parcourse Princesse Grace in Monaco:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...vR0SHhNDffI1Dg

Sadly few of her memorials seem to have worked out well. The Fountain was a complete disaster, the Garden is pretty but i thought it was a bit overly formal...and a statue will not convey her beauty....

Elan · #**2215** 07-19-2020, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Denville

Sadly few of her memorials seem to have worked out well. The Fountain was a complete disaster, the Garden is pretty but i thought it was a bit overly formal...and a statue will not convey her beauty....

Featuring water in and of itself was not a bad choice, but to limit it with nothing else, no raised structure.. just a canal dug at ground level, points to the spartan side, or frugal. Whatever the original concept, the result seems less than complimentary to her. Maybe during the summer, when crowds and kids wade in, it would have more appeal?

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https://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Eu...hoto984146.htm

Heavs · #**2216** 07-19-2020, 05:17 AM

The fountain on the ground was supposed to reflect her inclusiveness, less formal nature and love of children so people could go paddling, but that didn't work out very well once people started falling over and bashing their heads on the marble or turning the site into a muddy bog with water everywhere.

I don't think it is attractive at all and I wouldn't want to go paddling in it having seen it in person. The idea was fine but the execution horrible.

Denville · #**2217** 07-19-2020, 06:36 AM

It was hideous and a complete waste of time and Money. I dotn know what it was meant to represent but it was a mess. So I've given up hoping for a memorial to Diana that is attractive and meaningful...

muriel · #**2218** 07-19-2020, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Denville

The Fountain was a complete disaster, the Garden is pretty but i thought it was a bit overly formal...and a statue will not convey her beauty....

I thought the garden is not formal at all, and a lovely, albeit crowded, place for children to play.

Denville · #**2219** 07-19-2020, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by muriel

I thought the garden is not formal at all, and a lovely, albeit crowded, place for children to play.

I only saw pics of the garden but it looked a bit rigid, may have become less so now. but teh "fountain" was a disaster. I went to see it once when it had been in place for some time. There was nobody there, and my feet were so hot after a long walk - But it completely lacked style or elegance...

Sandy345 · #**2220** 08-11-2020, 12:36 PM

It seems to me it was not given the proper time for plan it. I think the blueprint for the one decided on should have been rejected and others be considered.