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Old 09-05-2017, 09:09 PM
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At one time I admired Diana.
But as I learned more about her, I gradually came to think less of her.

I still feel she was sincere in her charity work and her desire to help others.
But she was such a flawed individual that now I question how much of that was sincere, and how much a wish to bask in public adulation.
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Old 09-05-2017, 09:25 PM
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A lovely post, mermaid, and very heartfelt. Many Royal watchers at the time thought the same. Gone much too soon.
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Old 09-05-2017, 10:22 PM
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Thank you, Mermaid.
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Old 09-06-2017, 05:01 AM
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At one time I admired Diana.
But as I learned more about her, I gradually came to think less of her.

I still feel she was sincere in her charity work and her desire to help others.
But she was such a flawed individual that now I question how much of that was sincere, and how much a wish to bask in public adulation.

Mirabel, our innermost thoughts, desires and motives belong to US. We're all flawed. So it was with Diana. It's not about how sincere she was -that may have changed with the event, day, time of the month- it's about how sincere those on the receiving end felt she was when they met her. I'd bet money that none of them questioned it. I fail to see what's wrong with any of us enjoying positive feedback when we've done a worthwhile job. NOT to need/enjoy it would show an arrogance which would suggest underlying insincerity.
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Old 09-06-2017, 06:56 AM
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Mirabel, our innermost thoughts, desires and motives belong to US. We're all flawed. So it was with Diana. It's not about how sincere she was -that may have changed with the event, day, time of the month- it's about how sincere those on the receiving end felt she was when they met her. I'd bet money that none of them questioned it. I fail to see what's wrong with any of us enjoying positive feedback when we've done a worthwhile job. NOT to need/enjoy it would show an arrogance which would suggest underlying insincerity.
Well-said!

I'll try to think of it that way.
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Old 09-27-2017, 08:23 PM
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Mirabel, our innermost thoughts, desires and motives belong to US. We're all flawed. So it was with Diana. It's not about how sincere she was -that may have changed with the event, day, time of the month- it's about how sincere those on the receiving end felt she was when they met her. I'd bet money that none of them questioned it. I fail to see what's wrong with any of us enjoying positive feedback when we've done a worthwhile job. NOT to need/enjoy it would show an arrogance which would suggest underlying insincerity.
Beautifully stated Tsaritsa. I would like to say Princess Diana was not needy for the people interactions, but rather humble and sincere after she met Sister Teresa. That meeting changed her life.

BTW, The death of St. Teresa right after Diana told me that both woman were related souls and were finished with their work on earth. Diana was buried with Sister's rosary.
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Old 09-28-2017, 01:56 AM
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What evidence is there that Meeting Mother Teresa changed her?
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Old 09-28-2017, 02:54 AM
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What evidence is there that Meeting Mother Teresa changed her?
A letter.

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'Today, something very profound touched my life. I went to Mother Teresas home and found the direction Ive been searching for all these years.
'The sisters sang to me, a deeply spiritual experience and I soared to such heights in my spirit. The light shone from within these ladies, saints for want of a better word, such love came from their eyes and their touch was full of warmth.


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Recount from a woman who worked for a shelter both were involved with in NY.

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It is said Paul was the one who put the rosary beeds in with her in the coffin, as well as a photo of the boys.
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Old 09-29-2017, 03:45 AM
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I don't believe that she "changed". she tended to say rather "gushy" things, and I would say she was just being polite about Mother Teresa. she always was good hearted and kindly towards people less fortunate than herself, and She did get involved with people in her charity wrok. She had an aptitude for communicating with them and she got something "back" from the unhappy and ill and unfornutate that she worked with. There are loads of sotries of her forming a special friendship with a chld she visited in hospital or wth their family...
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Old 10-05-2017, 10:42 PM
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I thought there was it too much hype over the anniversary. IMO it also seemed William and Harry wanted the public to relive their grief with them again as adults.
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Old 10-06-2017, 03:58 AM
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As someone who lost my mother at eleven I'd say you feel the loss all your life really, in all sorts of ways, especially at important times like your wedding and the birth of your children.

The public has always had some curiosity about how the princes viewed their mum and how they dealt with the trauma of her death and funeral. It was the 20th anniversary of both and so they spoke out.

Harry has also related how the suppressed grief affected him over the years, as part of the Heads Together campaign. I think William and Harry felt it was cathartic to express those emotions, to give voice to their memories this year of a woman who was so important to both of them, and I believe they're glad they did so.
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Old 10-06-2017, 05:05 PM
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I agree Curryong but I think it speaks of things to come meaning although they will continue with their charities (which is wonderful) IMO Diana will play a central part in all they do keeping BP and Charles walking on eggshells
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Old 10-06-2017, 05:53 PM
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They both think about her all the time. They've said so. I think that's natural when you lose a parent. And of course they have continued some charity work in areas that were important to her, Landmines, children with cancer, AIDS etc, which in its way is a tribute to Diana.

However, I don't see why that should keep BP and Charles on eggshells. They have both accompanied their father to WW1 battle site memorials in the past year, have stated in the past that his work in the conservation area has inspired them.
I would think that neither Charles nor their grandmother the Queen would have liked either of the princes to keep their grief about their mother bottled up year after year and never speak of her, never think of her. That would be asking too much, especially after what Harry imparted in the last few months.
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Old 10-06-2017, 07:13 PM
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I don't think Charles walks on eggshells. I think both he and his advisers have learned to avoid certain hot buttons from a PR standpoint. But I think we all do that in one way or another. We don't talk about subject X when Uncle Harold is around, or we don't mention cousin Josiah around Aunt Maude. The POWales and his team simply avoids speaking about Diana. I think that wise. Not related to eggshells at all.
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Old 10-06-2017, 07:22 PM
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The 20th anniversary was, what one would call, a major anniversary and I think it would have seemed odd if it had passed by without those that were close to her making it special.

I also like to think that eggshells aren't anywhere near the picture. As the years pass after someone has died, what remains in memories is the good things about a person's lifetime. For this specific anniversary, Buckingham Palace did their own memorial to Diana with a public exhibition of things that belonged to Diana and Charles spent the time in Scotland as to not detract from his ex-wife's memory. Charles wore his wedding ring from his marriage to Diana up until the time he became engaged to Camilla. He also kept photographs of Diana around Highgrove until that time also.

The marriage may not have been a good and successful one but there was a lot of good in that marriage to be remembered. That is what really matters.
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Old 10-06-2017, 07:41 PM
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I think Diana fans and Charles fans have more animosity still than those that were actually involved.
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Old 10-06-2017, 07:56 PM
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I definitely agree with that. Sometimes reading through these threads, it seems to be that the War of the Wales is an ongoing thing happening right here and now.

The blessing though is that with the wealth of knowledge available and being discussed, its so much easier to form a clear and objective view of both Charles and Diana and those that are close to them. Its thinking outside the tabloid box.
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Old 10-06-2017, 08:26 PM
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Yikes eggshells might have been the wrong word to use Im not trying to take sides. Diana is a sensitive subject Of course its natural for William and Harry to celebrate and honor their mum on the anniversary. I just think going forward that whenever they can bring Diana back into focus they will. Im certainly not trying to offend anybody nor suggest they should suppress their grief.
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Stick around and read through some of the Diana threads and other threads pertaining to the Diana era and you'll quickly find out how appropriate the word "eggshells" can get. One thing that has been a standard warning here is to steer clear of starting a C/D/C triangle discussion as it will invariably lead to the thread closing down as it can really get argumentative at times.

Both William and Harry are, in and of themselves, Diana's legacy that lives on. We see it in William's smile. We see it in Harry's charisma. They both have continued to keep Diana's work alive and going into the future and actually are reflective of two very loving parents.
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Thanks Osipi-I have been reading the threads. YIKES You are so right we can see her legacy in her boys
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