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Old 08-27-2017, 01:06 AM
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Good points. I always keep that in mind with my studies (via books) on ancient civilizations and its people. I have to keep in mind that, for the most part, all we have really is theories of what might have been based upon what we've discovered so far.

I think this conversation has been useful with the idea of getting to know who Diana was, what her life was like and why things happened the way they did. With reading what others write from looking at Diana from all angles and for different reasons, we can begin to get a full picture of what Diana *may* have been like. With Diana no longer with us and interest in her still prevalent 20 years after her death, I think it would be wise for all of us to look at it from all directions. Up, down, sideways, upside down and from out in left field in a galaxy far, far away. See the good, the bad and the ugly and the exaggerated.
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Old 08-27-2017, 06:21 AM
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I do agree. Some members of the media have been milking everything out of Diana for many years. It's rather sickening.
but that's what journalists of that ilk do. They are not writing political analysis or hard news. They are writing light stuff, mostly and most people don't take it too seriously but I find that people on forums like this DO seem to take every word as gospel or attack them for being inaccurate or biased. the journalists on the Mail and other papers wouldn't write about Diana if there wasn't a market for it, ie people WANT to read this stuff and dotn seem to care that it is mostly re hashed..
ANd of course they switch their viewpoint at times. Soemtimes Di is in favour, sometimes Charles.. its all in the game of getting people to read it.. but one can read it and just take it for what it is.. ie it may have few nuggets of truth but it is probably nothing like 99% accurate.
There is no point IMO of blaming people for doing their job, ie writing articles about people in the public eye, Diana is a cash cow to them, so are the rest of the RF and the celebs
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Old 08-27-2017, 09:17 AM
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We should honour Diana's place as one of the most important women of the 20th Century, says Professor KATE WILLIAMS

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The flowers started coming at 5.30am.

First was a bunch of lilies wrapped in newspaper. Then more. A group of night clubbers heard the news from a DJ and arrived with red roses. Some scribbled notes – but most people had no words. Diana, Princess of Wales was dead and at first no one could comprehend the loss.

The outpouring of grief was cataclysmic and the reverberations have continued down the decades as far even as today, with fresh cards and flowers left outside the gates of Kensington Palace, a makeshift shrine, as the 20th anniversary of her death approaches.

Diana has too often been dismissed. Too much emphasis has been placed on her beauty, her lack of a formal education, her divorce and tragic death.
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Old 08-27-2017, 09:49 AM
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The thing is that, to me, things are drastically overblown.

Should Diana had not died tragically, all the calls for sainthood and calls to honor Diana's place in history and the focus on the ex wife of The Prince of Wales that has practically been going on all summer with articles, documentaries and everyone and their grandmother getting into the act making a big deal out of being dead for 20 years, Diana would have gone down in history for the time she was the Princess of Wales and remembered for being someone that did what a Princess of Wales is supposed to do and maybe a blurb or two on how she continued in life after leaving the BRF.

They've turned remembering Diana for who she was into a three ring circus.
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Old 08-27-2017, 10:07 AM
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Everyone should be following William and Harry's lead in honoring Diana. Carrying out her legacy of giving and caring for those who's in need of love and guidance.

The media need to follow in the Princes leads too.

None of this should be about smearing Charles and Camilla and relitigating the past drama over and over again.
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Old 08-27-2017, 10:24 AM
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I agree with you both but with one little caveat. Diana's enormous worldwide popularity, and a charisma that drew people to her and her causes, made her far beyond what other Princesses of Wales were and how they did things. It also made that funeral and the lead up to it almost inevitable IMO.

Now everybody except Princess Michael's cats have said everything that is possible to say about Diana and the Diana phenomenon, I should think by the end of next month everything will have died down considerably and we will be discussing many other things, including perhaps, a Royal engagement!
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Old 08-27-2017, 10:44 AM
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The thing is that, to me, things are drastically overblown.

They've turned remembering Diana for who she was into a three ring circus.

Absolutely!

Diana did some admirable things, but to call her one of the most important women of the century seems a stretch.

But this too shall pass. I only hope it is sooner rather than later.
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Old 08-27-2017, 11:48 AM
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Now everybody except Princess Michael's cats have said everything that is possible to say about Diana and the Diana phenomenon, I should think by the end of next month everything will have died down considerably and we will be discussing many other things, including perhaps, a Royal engagement!
HMMMM if we expand our search, I'm sure that one of our royal detectives can find commentary from Princess Michael's cats on their former neighbor.
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Old 08-27-2017, 01:20 PM
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HMMMM if we expand our search, I'm sure that one of our royal detectives can find commentary from Princess Michael's cats on their former neighbor.
Say- just how old are those cats?
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Old 08-27-2017, 02:54 PM
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How important was Diana ?

As Chairman Mao said of the importance of the French Revolution [two centuries earlier].. "It's too soon to tell"..
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I agree with you both but with one little caveat. Diana's enormous worldwide popularity, and a charisma that drew people to her and her causes, made her far beyond what other Princesses of Wales were and how they did things. It also made that funeral and the lead up to it almost inevitable IMO.

Now everybody except Princess Michael's cats have said everything that is possible to say about Diana and the Diana phenomenon, I should think by the end of next month everything will have died down considerably and we will be discussing many other things, including perhaps, a Royal engagement!
Fame and popularity are fleeting things and as history is written in the future, it will be Diana's work as the Princess of Wales that is the focus. When we really think about it, if we were to draw up lists of what Diana did as far as charitable work and a list for Charles' charitable works as Prince and Princess of Wales, next to Charles', Diana's would look like an amateur taking a stab at things. Its looking at the facts. I do realize that Diana's list was cut short by a tragic accident. I'm not demeaning the work Diana did do or her effect on people that she met but history tends to boil things down to dates, times and events.
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:42 AM
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Say- just how old are those cats?
Well with nine lives...they could be pretty old by now.
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Old 08-29-2017, 11:37 AM
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She will never be forgotten, and that is right and proper. She was human, just like the rest of us, and in her last days, she was surrounded by boneheads and idiots that only wished to capitalize on her vulnerability.
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Old 08-30-2017, 09:45 AM
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Say- just how old are those cats?
IIRC her cats are Siamese and they have been known to live well into their twenties. My cousins had one who lived to be 25.
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Old 08-30-2017, 10:40 AM
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Yes, I think it does make a lot of sense. It's a pity it rained, but the gardens looked very nice. Ive been thinking about Diana a lot this month and the way she missed her boys growing up into men. I wonder what their thoughts were as they looked around and talked to the gardeners, including one who knew Diana, and then went to have a chat with the workers for the charities their mother worked for and with. She certainly made a difference in her 36 years.
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Old 08-30-2017, 11:18 AM
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Prince William and Harry pay tribute to mother Diana | Daily Mail Online

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Twenty years ago when they stood in front of the gates of Kensington Palace as young boys, hearts broke at the sight of two young princes in pain as they struggled to come to terms with the enormity of their loss.

And today history repeated itself and William and Harry returned to their mother's former home to view floral tributes to their late mother Diana ahead of the 20th anniversary of her death in a Paris car crash on August 31 1997.

Two decades ago, William, 15, and Harry, 11, were dressed in the sombre dark suits, ties and smart shoes, while today both opted for a much more casual look.
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