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Old 06-29-2017, 06:19 PM
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Welcome. Diana was indeed a fascinating woman, Dawn Pisturino, warm, lovely and all too human. Are you related to her through her mother's family?
I'm related through the Spencer side.
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Old 06-29-2017, 06:25 PM
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That is pretty cool.

You'd probably be interested then in the many wonderful posts on information about her Spencer ancestry. It can be found here.

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...mily-9308.html
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Old 06-30-2017, 12:57 AM
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Actually, Charles do have a nice and friendly relationship with both Jane and Sarah. He once dated Sarah too. The Spencer's and Windsor's go back a long way with each other before the Wales marriage.

It's a shame Charles can't be there due to the Canadian trip, but I'm sure he sends his best to the family on the re-dedication.
I doubt if they are friends nowadays, after the divorce and charles' Spencers ciriticsm of the RF.
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Old 06-30-2017, 01:21 AM
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I doubt if they are friends nowadays, after the divorce and charles' Spencers ciriticsm of the RF.


Didn't one of Diana's sisters just recently attend Ascot? She and her husband sat in the carriage procession, on a day when Charles and Camilla were also present.

I believe it's only Earl Spencer who has openly criticized the BRF.
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Old 06-30-2017, 01:29 AM
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That might have been Jane Fellowes. She and her husband, Baron Fellowes, have been close to the Queen for ever, as Robert Fellowes was the Queen's Private Secretary for so many years.
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Old 06-30-2017, 01:38 AM
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You're right. I remember reading that on the carriage list for that day. It was Jane Spencer Fellowes at Ascot with her husband.
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Old 06-30-2017, 02:06 AM
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I doubt if they are friends nowadays, after the divorce and charles' Spencers ciriticsm of the RF.
The families really don't have a rift with each other. Earl Spencer cleared that up a while back.

Yes, Lord and Lady Fellowes were at Royal Ascot in the carriage possession on Day 1 with the Cambridge's and Charles and Camilla. Lord Fellowes used to be the Private Secretary to The Queen and he still remains in the Royal Household as an advisor to Her Majesty.
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Old 06-30-2017, 02:32 AM
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My children were 4 years old and 3 1/2 months old at my grandmother's funeral. It was a family event so they attended. What's wrong with Charlotte and George being there?
There is nothing wrong with it.

The point a few people were making is that the kids will not take anything from it. They are too young. People were going on about how special, and the kids hearing the stories, and knowing how great she was. Realistically they are too young. Just like your kids, in a few years they aren't likely to even remember. I went to my grandfathers funeral at George's age. The only reason I know I did is because my dad tells me. I have very vague memories of the man and none of his funeral. The kids are not going to get the significance of the event, or understand. Honestly they will enjoy running around Althorope on a sunny day.

If they want to take the kids, wonderful. Definitely their decision. But hopefully they take the kids there in a few years when a bit older, to understand. Then they will be old enough to understand what Diana did. But a nice day to see their extended family and play with the likes of Earl Spenvers little girl, never goes wrong. Sure the Spencer's will be happy to see her grandkids.
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Old 06-30-2017, 05:46 AM
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I don't see Meghan attending events like this until she officially becomes Harry's fiancee. And the press would have made a spectacle of her attendance.
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Old 06-30-2017, 07:37 AM
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There is nothing wrong with it.

The point a few people were making is that the kids will not take anything from it. They are too young. People were going on about how special, and the kids hearing the stories, and knowing how great she was. Realistically they are too young. Just like your kids, in a few years they aren't likely to even remember. I went to my grandfathers funeral at George's age. The only reason I know I did is because my dad tells me. I have very vague memories of the man and none of his funeral. The kids are not going to get the significance of the event, or understand. Honestly they will enjoy running around Althorope on a sunny day.

If they want to take the kids, wonderful. Definitely their decision. But hopefully they take the kids there in a few years when a bit older, to understand. Then they will be old enough to understand what Diana did. But a nice day to see their extended family and play with the likes of Earl Spenvers little girl, never goes wrong. Sure the Spencer's will be happy to see her grandkids.
I'm sure the kids will return once they're older too. It's important to William that his kids are there now though. I like the fact that they're going to the service.
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Old 06-30-2017, 07:00 PM
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For Oz posters -

ABC in Australia will be broadcasting the British two-part documentary "Diana - Seven Days That Shook The World" starting this Tuesday.

Was shown in the UK last month.

Airdate: Diana: Seven Days that Shook the World – TV Tonight
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Old 06-30-2017, 07:19 PM
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Thanks, Sun Lion. Interesting. I'll be watching!
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Old 06-30-2017, 08:41 PM
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For Oz posters -

ABC in Australia will be broadcasting the British two-part documentary "Diana - Seven Days That Shook The World" starting this Tuesday.

Was shown in the UK last month.

Airdate: Diana: Seven Days that Shook the World TV Tonight
If I hadn't experienced it when it was happening I'd probably want to watch, but I don't think I want to go through it again. That was a sad week.
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Old 06-30-2017, 09:17 PM
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There is nothing wrong with it.

The point a few people were making is that the kids will not take anything from it. They are too young. People were going on about how special, and the kids hearing the stories, and knowing how great she was. Realistically they are too young. Just like your kids, in a few years they aren't likely to even remember. I went to my grandfathers funeral at George's age. The only reason I know I did is because my dad tells me. I have very vague memories of the man and none of his funeral. The kids are not going to get the significance of the event, or understand. Honestly they will enjoy running around Althorope on a sunny day.

If they want to take the kids, wonderful. Definitely their decision. But hopefully they take the kids there in a few years when a bit older, to understand. Then they will be old enough to understand what Diana did. But a nice day to see their extended family and play with the likes of Earl Spenvers little girl, never goes wrong. Sure the Spencer's will be happy to see her grandkids.
I agree, there's nothing wrong with the children being there, but it won't be meaningful for them because they're so young.

Whether or not they decide to bring the children to the actual service, I'm sure it will be very poignant and bittersweet for William to remember what must be the worst point of his life while at the same time finding so much joy in George and Charlotte. It's really too bad that he doesn't get to share that joy with his mother.
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Old 06-30-2017, 09:39 PM
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I think they should take the children. Diana would like nothing more than those two running around and playing as some minister drones on.

Also, in fifteen or twenty years' time, those two children will be very pleased to find out that they were brought along to their granny's 20th anniversary memorial service.
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Old 06-30-2017, 09:46 PM
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For anyone; it's available on YouTube.
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The families really don't have a rift with each other. Earl Spencer cleared that up a while back.

Yes, Lord and Lady Fellowes were at Royal Ascot in the carriage possession on Day 1 with the Cambridge's and Charles and Camilla. Lord Fellowes used to be the Private Secretary to The Queen and he still remains in the Royal Household as an advisor to Her Majesty.
Fellows is not a Spencer and I don't get the feeling that the queen and Charles S are on great terms. They will be polite if they meet but are hardly going to be best friends.
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Old 06-30-2017, 10:48 PM
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Fellows is not a Spencer and I don't get the feeling that the queen and Charles S are on great terms. They will be polite if they meet but are hardly going to be best friends.
Robert Fellowes actually is a member of the Spencer family by marriage. He is married to Diana's sister Jane. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Fellowes family are there en masse for the memorial service at Althorp.

BTW: the Queen is Charles Spencer's godmother.
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Hes not an actual Spencer, any more than Diana was a Windsor. It has been said that there were issues between him and Jane over Diana, because as a courtier his loyalty was to the queen, and Diana was disrespecting the queen. So IMO he is problaby not on the Spencer side of the fence if they are still unhappy with the RF and the queen. And yes the queen's Charles Spencers' godmother, but IMO se was very displeased with his speech at Diana's funeral and I don't think they've ever completely gotten over that.
I don't really understand this "re dedication" of the Grave.. why not just have a prayer service at the graveside or in the local church?
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Old 06-30-2017, 11:48 PM
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Probably for the same reasons that couples renew their wedding vows.

Y'know, I find it hard to believe that there would be still animosity between the members of the family over something that happened 20 years ago. Fences are broken down and mended all the time and life goes on.

Thinking about the familial relationships and whether a Spencer or a Windsor, Robert Fellowes is as much William and Harry's uncle as Sophie Wessex is their aunt. Families don't usually go by "sides" when it comes to familial matters. Family is family period.
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