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Old 09-08-2020, 01:29 AM
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One word: Alexandra.

I don't think she wanted to have a child out of wedlock. Unlike her brother and her younger sister she wanted to have her child legitimated.


It seems that reality set in later that once a cheater always a cheater. And the marriage while good for Alexandra, was bad for both of them.
Good rule to live by: "If he cheats WITH you, he will cheat ON you!"
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Old 09-08-2020, 09:23 AM
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I think that after Stefano, the most suitable (for Caroline) relationship or husband was Vincent Lindon. He was really in love with her. He did love her children. Her children loved him and felt very safe with him. He was from a "good" and rich family (although he was not amillionaire or a noble). He was a man that could make a woman feel emotionally safe. It's not only the money and the titles that count, after all.
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Old 09-08-2020, 11:14 AM
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I am not disputing any of this but how do we know that he could or did make Caroline feel "emotionally safe?" Since she has not and will unlikely ever discuss the relationship we have no idea of their personal dynamics.

Her children seemed to take well to him, but she ended it for a reason.
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Old 09-08-2020, 11:24 AM
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If there weren't already signs of it when they married, the honeymoon period didn't last long. Less then a year and a half after marrying he was caught urinating on the Turkish pavilion. It wasn't the first time. Only months after their wedding he was caught urinating outside a hospital in Austria.

He went to rehab after the Turkish event. So if the two peeing events were stand alone I highly doubt they would have sent him for help.
seems to me odd that she got involved with him.. His problems/bad behaviour were there I'm sure before they married. She wasn't a kid, and its not that difficult to avoid pregnancy.
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Old 09-08-2020, 12:08 PM
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Had he been alive, Stefano would have turned 60 today... May he rest in peace...
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Old 09-08-2020, 01:32 PM
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As I find her a very interesting woman, I "watch" her life since the 80s. So, after Stefano's death, looking at her pictures of the "Lindon period", I find her calm and beautiful. Lindon helped her to go on. Of course she loved Ernst, but since his behaviour was so bad, I think that this should make her feel unsafe and put her in an uncomfortable position. I also find her (through her pictures with Ernst, especially at the first years) somehow arrogant. The period after Ernst is very creative for her. She is also calm. She has her philanthropist projects. Her children have created their own families and I think she should be very proud of all of them.
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Old 09-08-2020, 04:51 PM
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It's sad that she is now alone, especially as all her children are now grown up and have left home.
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Old 09-08-2020, 05:54 PM
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Alexandra also lives with her boyfriend?

As for children leaving home - well, it's a natural order of things.

If she had really wanted to divorce Ernst August, she would have done it long ago.
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Old 09-09-2020, 05:52 AM
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I thought that she was very much in love iwht Lindon, but there was family disapproval? I can't believe she ended up with Ernest, as he seems to have hd not just substance abuse problems but to behave badly and crudely as well. She got involved iwht him, they had a baby and I can't understand even if she married him to legitimise the baby, why she has stayed iwht him so long. I don't think that anyone would have blamed her for getting a divorce form suhc a mess of a man, and I don't believe she was in love with him so its hard not to conclude that she didn't want tyo give up her title as his wife.
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Old 09-09-2020, 06:26 AM
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The thread has been cleaned up. Please refrain from reposting already posted photos here and also to post about and to discuss Prince Ernst August's current problems. The correct thread for his current events/news about him is the following one:

** Prince Ernst August (V) and the Royal House of Hanover (March 2008-) **
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Old 09-09-2020, 11:58 AM
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Princess Alexandra of Hannover is and was happy in Monaco.
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Old 09-09-2020, 12:04 PM
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I thought that she was very much in love iwht Lindon, but there was family disapproval? I can't believe she ended up with Ernest, as he seems to have hd not just substance abuse problems but to behave badly and crudely as well. She got involved iwht him, they had a baby and I can't understand even if she married him to legitimise the baby, why she has stayed iwht him so long. I don't think that anyone would have blamed her for getting a divorce form suhc a mess of a man, and I don't believe she was in love with him so its hard not to conclude that she didn't want tyo give up her title as his wife.
Hence no divorce— She’d lose the HRH
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Old 09-09-2020, 01:34 PM
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Hence no divorce— She’d lose the HRH
Personally, I think the losing the HRH title as the reason for not divorcing is utter nonsense.

It isn't even real - there is no royalty in Germany.

It doesn't allow her to outrank Albert or Charlene - Albert is a ruling Sovereign.

It doesn't open any doors for her - since her separation from Ernst she doesn't move in the German/Austrian princely circles any more. She continues to socialise with her longstanding friends from the world of the arts and culture.

Honestly, only she and Ernst plus members of their inner circle know why they don't divorce - people casually assert the title reason as if it is some kind of immutable publicly announced truth. (Like the Chantal Hanover was her best friend myth). I'm more inclined to believe it's for financial reasons - and convenience.

She may be super aware of her rank (and always has been) but she isn't a stupid woman. If it mattered to her as much as some people assert she wouldn't have married Philippe Junot or Stefano Casiraghi or had significant relationships with Robertino Rossellini or Vincent Lindon.

I also happen to believe she was in love with Ernst - the first few years together they seemed very happy.
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Old 09-09-2020, 01:50 PM
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I couldn't have put it better ..thank you. Posters who cite Caroline's attachment to HRH fail to 1) demonstrate how it has benefited her and b) Explain why she didn't care one fig about titles with either of her two previous husbands, or with Roberto Rossellini or Vincent Lindon.

If Caroline was so status conscious why refuse to allow Rainier to settle titles on her three children with Stefano?

Finally, you may not like or approve of Ernst but to decide that Caroline became involved with, subjected herself to ridicule and scandal, and married and bore a child all for a man that she never loved is preposterous, imo.
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If Caroline was so status conscious why refuse to allow Rainier to settle titles on her three children with Stefano?
Interesting! Was there a confirmed offer from Rainier or was it something which was reported but never confirmed?
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Old 09-10-2020, 09:31 AM
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Princess Alexandra of Hannover is and was happy in Monaco.
Actually Alexandra goes to NYU. So she lives in New York City
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Old 09-10-2020, 10:15 AM
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Interesting! Was there a confirmed offer from Rainier or was it something which was reported but never confirmed?
Hmm....not sure how a "confirmed offer" could be verified unless the Palace or Rainier announced it which did not happen. But there were/are numerous media articles reporting that like Princess Anne, Caroline had turned declined the offer of titles for her children, because she wanted to bring them up without the pressure of being "official" members of the Princely Family even though they are all in the Succession.

"I am raising them as Casiraghis and not princes and princesses" is one direct quote from Paris Match that I remember reading.

Even without confirmation from the Palace, it is pretty obvious that Caroline during her young womanhood was never a chaser of status and titles. She would not have married Junot if she had been.
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Old 09-10-2020, 11:25 AM
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Not sure about that, to be honest. Caroline was in a period of immaturity and rebellion when she married Junot - she said that herself. Her attitudes changed considerably after that marriage ended.
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Old 09-10-2020, 04:18 PM
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Not sure about that, to be honest. Caroline was in a period of immaturity and rebellion when she married Junot - she said that herself. Her attitudes changed considerably after that marriage ended.
Well Junot didn't come from a particularly shabby background either.

And her changed more mature attitude didn't stop her from being involved with three more untitled men.

However, I still don't believe she is not divorcing because of her title. She gains nothing from it.
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Old 09-10-2020, 04:26 PM
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Hmm....not sure how a "confirmed offer" could be verified unless the Palace or Rainier announced it which did not happen. But there were/are numerous media articles reporting that like Princess Anne, Caroline had turned declined the offer of titles for her children, because she wanted to bring them up without the pressure of being "official" members of the Princely Family even though they are all in the Succession.

"I am raising them as Casiraghis and not princes and princesses" is one direct quote from Paris Match that I remember reading.
Thanks. Does anybody have a link or source where I could read one of these media reports?
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