The Royal Forums Coat of Arms


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #321  
Old 05-19-2013, 04:50 AM
fandesacs2003's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Athens, Angola
Posts: 5,547
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nadezhda View Post
I think the best husband of Princess Caroline was Ernst of Hanover, Stefano seemed cold and distand. :/
Stefano was THE LOVE of her life. When you see her pictures during this period, she was not only beautiful (which she was of course before and after), but shd had always a kind of "light" around her, coming inside her, which was the proof of an absolute hapiness. I felt an explosion of feelings and adoration coming from her at this period. For she never recovered this "aura" and internal peace, even if she has been happy again. Of course her new husband and her kids gave her wonderful moments in her life, but after Stefano's death, something broke for ever.
Reply With Quote
  #322  
Old 05-20-2013, 10:05 AM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: roma, Italy
Posts: 1,126
The pictures speak for themselves

Reply With Quote
  #323  
Old 05-20-2013, 01:45 PM
Nadezhda's Avatar
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Plovdiv, Bulgaria
Posts: 103
Quote:
Originally Posted by fandesacs2003 View Post
Stefano was THE LOVE of her life. When you see her pictures during this period, she was not only beautiful (which she was of course before and after), but shd had always a kind of "light" around her, coming inside her, which was the proof of an absolute hapiness. I felt an explosion of feelings and adoration coming from her at this period. For she never recovered this "aura" and internal peace, even if she has been happy again. Of course her new husband and her kids gave her wonderful moments in her life, but after Stefano's death, something broke for ever.
I'm not saying the opposite , but I do think that Princess Grace was right when she chose Ernst of Hanover for a husband to Princess Caroline. There was something very blank about Stefano. For me he always seemed to be a cold person, unable to show feelings and he had these indifferent, dead eyes. While at the same Prince Ernst was a warm, radiant person, with a very positive appearance. Princess Alexandra has her dad's positive appearance.
Reply With Quote
  #324  
Old 05-20-2013, 02:09 PM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: roma, Italy
Posts: 1,126
Princess Grace did not know that Ernst would become an alcoholic with all the related problems.
Reply With Quote
  #325  
Old 05-20-2013, 06:21 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto (ON) & London (UK), Canada
Posts: 5,276
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nadezhda View Post
While at the same Prince Ernst was a warm, radiant person, with a very positive appearance. Princess Alexandra has her dad's positive appearance.
What do you find so radiant and positive in EA's appearance? Is it his getting so drunk at the pre wedding party of the Prince of Asturias that he was unable to attend the actual wedding or perhaps his peeing on the Turkish pavilion at Expo, or his physical attacks on people, or his holidays to Thailand and Spain with women he is not married to? For most people these are not traits in a husband they would consider very desirable.
Reply With Quote
  #326  
Old 05-20-2013, 06:34 PM
Ish's Avatar
Ish Ish is offline
Moderator Emeritus
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 4,112
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nadezhda View Post
I'm not saying the opposite , but I do think that Princess Grace was right when she chose Ernst of Hanover for a husband to Princess Caroline. There was something very blank about Stefano. For me he always seemed to be a cold person, unable to show feelings and he had these indifferent, dead eyes. While at the same Prince Ernst was a warm, radiant person, with a very positive appearance. Princess Alexandra has her dad's positive appearance.
In what way did Grace chose Ernst as Caroline's husband? Grace died in 1982, almost 2 decades before Caroline married Ernst.
Reply With Quote
  #327  
Old 05-20-2013, 06:40 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto (ON) & London (UK), Canada
Posts: 5,276
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ish View Post
In what way did Grace chose Ernst as Caroline's husband? Grace died in 1982, almost 2 decades before Caroline married Ernst.
Grace supposedly used to browse the Almanach de Gotha and chose EA as an appropriate candidate for marriage for Caroline. Not sure if Grace ever met him in person.
Reply With Quote
  #328  
Old 05-20-2013, 08:00 PM
fandesacs2003's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Athens, Angola
Posts: 5,547
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ish View Post

In what way did Grace chose Ernst as Caroline's husband? Grace died in 1982, almost 2 decades before Caroline married Ernst.
Caroline knew Ernst since her 17ies, when she was living in London for her A levels. EA was livig in London also. They have met and being in commun cercles at this time. The rumor says that he was already attracted by her. So Pcs Grace, choose him (IF she did so) not really from a book, but among her daughter's cercle. He was not an uknown from a book!
And do not forget that very soon Philippe Junot arrived.. and Grace quickly abandoned her royal dreams.
Reply With Quote
  #329  
Old 05-21-2013, 09:57 AM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: roma, Italy
Posts: 1,126
Reply With Quote
  #330  
Old 05-21-2013, 07:53 PM
Nadezhda's Avatar
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Plovdiv, Bulgaria
Posts: 103
Reply With Quote
  #331  
Old 05-21-2013, 09:16 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Spring Hill, United States
Posts: 3,010
Very touching and nice to see Caroline and Ernst August seemed to be very attracted to one another, not just the sordid mess that exists today.
Reply With Quote
  #332  
Old 05-22-2013, 01:07 AM
fandesacs2003's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Athens, Angola
Posts: 5,547
Quote:
Originally Posted by COUNTESS View Post
Very touching and nice to see Caroline and Ernst August seemed to be very attracted to one another, not just the sordid mess that exists today.
Absolutely. An attraction existing for more than 25 years, destroyed by a bad habit.
Contrary to the most of the posters of TRF i personally believe than EA was a gond guy and husband, with a bad habit.
Reply With Quote
  #333  
Old 03-31-2015, 03:20 PM
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Springfield, United States
Posts: 141
If there is another thread better suited to this question, please re-direct.


I wonder why Caroline remains married to Ernst. Divorce/annulment is not something she avoided in the past. Since she's been separated for many years, what is the purpose of remaining married. Is it financial? Does she receive income from him. Or will she receive an inheritance on his death if they are still married? I've read he is very wealthy. I suppose due to real estate or investments. For that matter, where does the revenue supporting her, Stephanie and all of their children come from? I know Charlotte has income from her affiliation with {Gucci?} and Tatiana comes from a very wealth family, but have read nothing about how the other kids support themselves. Do they all receive income from the principality or do any of them actually have jobs?
Reply With Quote
  #334  
Old 03-31-2015, 03:22 PM
Lee-Z's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Heerlen, Netherlands
Posts: 3,523
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocketmom View Post
If there is another thread better suited to this question, please re-direct.


I wonder why Caroline remains married to Ernst. Divorce/annulment is not something she avoided in the past. Since she's been separated for many years, what is the purpose of remaining married. Is it financial? Does she receive income from him. Or will she receive an inheritance on his death if they are still married? I've read he is very wealthy. I suppose due to real estate or investments. For that matter, where does the revenue supporting her, Stephanie and all of their children come from? I know Charlotte has income from her affiliation with {Gucci?} and Tatiana comes from a very wealth family, but have read nothing about how the other kids support themselves. Do they all receive income from the principality or do any of them actually have jobs?
Don't know the answer, but another possibility to stay married is the title...isn't she a "Royal Highness" now instead of a "Serene Highness"?
Reply With Quote
  #335  
Old 03-31-2015, 03:30 PM
Moonmaiden23's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Los Angeles, United States
Posts: 12,352
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocketmom View Post
If there is another thread better suited to this question, please re-direct.


I wonder why Caroline remains married to Ernst. Divorce/annulment is not something she avoided in the past. Since she's been separated for many years, what is the purpose of remaining married. Is it financial? Does she receive income from him. Or will she receive an inheritance on his death if they are still married? I've read he is very wealthy. I suppose due to real estate or investments. For that matter, where does the revenue supporting her, Stephanie and all of their children come from? I know Charlotte has income from her affiliation with {Gucci?} and Tatiana comes from a very wealth family, but have read nothing about how the other kids support themselves. Do they all receive income from the principality or do any of them actually have jobs?
When Rainier III died, he left all three of his children extremely wealthy. The "poorest" of them is Princess Stephanie who is worth a mere 10-20 million compared to Albert and Caroline who both rumored to be billionaires.

The finances of the Grimaldi is pretty much secret except for one undeniable fact...they are among the wealthiest families in Europe. I assume that the Casiraghis live off of trust funds established for them.

Andrea is of course married to Tatiana, who inherited at least a billion dollars from the estates of her late grandfather and her father.
__________________
"Be who God intended you to be, and you will set the world on fire" St. Catherine of Siena

"If your dreams don't scare you, they are not big enough" Sir Sidney Poitier
1927-2022
Reply With Quote
  #336  
Old 03-31-2015, 06:52 PM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Midwest, United States
Posts: 1,458
I think she was pressured by Rainier to marry Ernst because of the title. It may be the first time the Grimaldis married a direct decendent of a king. In this case 2 kings. She doesn't need the money.
Reply With Quote
  #337  
Old 03-31-2015, 08:34 PM
Moonmaiden23's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Los Angeles, United States
Posts: 12,352
I remember the Caroline/August affair. No pressure from Rainier was needed. Caroline was head over heels, crazy in love with him from snapshots taken of them canoodling on Caroline's yacht by paparazzi. She had to have him. It was no different than all her other romantic involvements...her heart overruled her judgment.

In the early months of their involvement she was radiant. The fact that he was a mega wealthy Royal Highness and a Hanover was icing on the cake for both herself and Rainier. The fact that he was the man her late mother had always wanted for her probably didn't hurt either.
__________________
"Be who God intended you to be, and you will set the world on fire" St. Catherine of Siena

"If your dreams don't scare you, they are not big enough" Sir Sidney Poitier
1927-2022
Reply With Quote
  #338  
Old 04-01-2015, 09:40 AM
fandesacs2003's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Athens, Angola
Posts: 5,547
Quote:
Originally Posted by FanofMonaco View Post
I think she was pressured by Rainier to marry Ernst because of the title. It may be the first time the Grimaldis married a direct decendent of a king. In this case 2 kings. She doesn't need the money.
Pcs Caroline has never acted pressured, especially by her father who adored her, and of course not at the aga of 41. If there could have been a pressure in her life it could have been by Pcs Grace when Caroline was a teen or a young lady. Certainly not at the age she wed Pcs EA. She simly wanted to marry him and she did it.
Reply With Quote
  #339  
Old 04-01-2015, 11:42 AM
Duchessmary's Avatar
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: San Diego, United States
Posts: 1,448
She was also pregnant, which was a deciding factor, no doubt.
Reply With Quote
  #340  
Old 04-01-2015, 12:00 PM
Ish's Avatar
Ish Ish is offline
Moderator Emeritus
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 4,112
Quote:
Originally Posted by FanofMonaco View Post
I think she was pressured by Rainier to marry Ernst because of the title. It may be the first time the Grimaldis married a direct decendent of a king. In this case 2 kings. She doesn't need the money.
Princess Florestine of Monaco married Wilhelm, 1st Duke of Urach, who was a direct descendant of Frederick William I of Prussia and his wife Princess Sophie Dorothea of Great Britain, daughter of George I.

The Grimaldis themselves are descended from Frederick II of Denmark through their descent from Johan William Friso, Prince of Orange. Caroline's marriage was not the first time the Grimaldis, themselves direct descendants of kings, married other direct descendants of kings.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Order of Precedence 1: Ending 2022 james British Royals 1233 08-26-2022 05:39 PM
Biography of Princess Caroline Julia Princess Caroline and Family 33 09-18-2008 10:37 PM
Grimaldi Family - Biography tbhrc Princely Family of Monaco 39 05-13-2006 05:21 AM
Princess Caroline and husbands letizia Princess Caroline and Family 394 04-17-2006 04:35 PM




Popular Tags
#alnahyan #baby #rashidmrm baptism british christenings co-regency commonwealth countries crest crown princess victoria defunct thrones dna duchess of edinburgh edward vii fabio bevilacqua fallen empires fallen kingdom fashion suggestions fifa women's world cup football france godfather grand duke henri hollywood hotel room for sale house of gonzaga international events iran jewellery jewels king king carl xvi gustaf king charles king george list of rulers new zealand; cyclone gabrielle order of the redeemer overseas tours pahlavi pamela hicks persia preferences prince & princess of wales prince christian princeharry princess alexia of the netherlands princess catharina amalia princess ingrid alexandra princess of wales queen queen alexandra queen camilla queen elizabeth ii queen elizabeth ii style ray mill romanov claimant royal christenings royals royal without thrones schleswig-holstein shah reza silk soccer state visit state visit to germany tiaras uk; kenya; state visit; website william woven


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:55 PM.

Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2023
Jelsoft Enterprises