Princess Caroline and husbands part II - Page 16

Moonmaiden23 · #**301** 06-08-2011, 11:57 AM

"You'll Never" is hardly a biography...it's a book of scandalous anectdotes.

I think with all the huffing and puffing that accompanied the book's publication, if it had been filled with lies the author would have been successfully sued in court.

He/she was NOT...in fact no one ever even filed a suit.

In the US you cannot sue someone over information that is true, no matter how bad it makes you look.

FanofMonaco · #**302** 06-08-2011, 02:59 PM

In the US, you can print lies about a dead person. There is no legal recourse.

Moonmaiden23 · #**303** 06-08-2011, 03:03 PM

It was written in the 80's...Stefano was alive and kicking at that time.

But now I am starting to think I read about him in "You'll Never MAKE LOVE In this Town Again" which I do not think was written while he was alive...hmmm...I need to check this out.

Again, it was just a brief mention and sort of funny. It didn't paint him as a monster or bad guy, just a bit shallow.

American Observer7 · #**304** 08-10-2011, 10:32 PM

Did Princess Caroline have an affair with a good friend's husband and that husband was Prince Ernest of Hanover? If this is true, she has no room to judge Albert nor Stephanie for their love lives or how their children came to be. I say this because I read that Princess was said to be embarrassed by her siblings behaviors.

Nathalie Cox · #**305** 08-10-2011, 11:24 PM

It's been said that Caroline has had an affair with her best friend's husband. That would be Ernst, and the supposed best friend would be Chantal.
However, Chantal was not Caroline's friend, it was Ernst. Caroline met Ernst long time before he got married to Chantal. Caroline was friends with Ernst first, and when he married, she simply had to get along, respectfully, with Chantal.

Of course she has no right to criticize her siblings for scandalous behaviours since she was involved in a quite a few, but it's incorrect to say that she was best friends with Chantal.

AristoCat · #**306** 08-11-2011, 01:36 AM

In regards to Phillippe being a playboy, in the book about Grace written by Robert Lacey, it states that he had investments in several successful businesses, among them a supermarket and real estate, so he lived off of the income from them. It's not that he was idle, or didn't work, he had just succeeded in investments and was living life to the fullest.

azure · #**307** 08-11-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathalie Cox

It's been said that Caroline has had an affair with her best friend's husband. That would be Ernst, and the supposed best friend would be Chantal.
However, Chantal was not Caroline's friend, it was Ernst. Caroline met Ernst long time before he got married to Chantal. Caroline was friends with Ernst first, and when he married, she simply had to get along, respectfully, with Chantal.

Of course she has no right to criticize her siblings for scandalous behaviours since she was involved in a quite a few, but it's incorrect to say that she was best friends with Chantal.

I don't understand the difference. OK, Caroline met Chatntal through Ernst. But both couples (Caro-Stefano / Ernst-Chantal) became very close and Ernst-Chantal were always invited in Monaco and even in special events, like marriage anniversary. Caroline shouldn't behave so badly to Chantal. Of course it was not only her fault. Ernst was responsible too. According to an old greek saying: "what you give you get". Sorry for being hard, but I want to be fair.

Kataryn · #**308** 08-11-2011, 10:04 AM

Probably Chantal, Princess of Hannover is quite happy with her fate - who in fact wants to be married to this train wreck of a man without manners and dignity but with an aggressive streak?

Renata4711 · #**309** 08-11-2011, 10:47 AM

Well said, Kataryn !

Chantal is well shut off him, and so is Caroline.

I wonder, though, whether Caro did it all for the HRH / SAR ?
Is it valuable enough to take such a risk with Ernst?

**Zonk** · #**310** 08-11-2011, 11:46 AM

Since we don't know Caroline's motives for the marriage, separation, et al we should not speculate.

And let's cool it with the nasty comments about Ernst. He might not be everyone's idea of a husband, but he is still someone's son, father, etc. We don't need to comment on his behavior with nasty slurs on character.

Moonmaiden23 · #**311** 08-11-2011, 11:59 AM

Well put Zonk. E-A has a disease that has affected how he behaves towards others, and how he functions in the world.

I am not making excuses for him, he is a grown man and knows what he is and what needs to be done.

But he is probably no better or no worse than many other people who have the same affliction he does... except he is rich and famous and married to a beautiful Princess, and that is what makes him more visible.

Kataryn · #**312** 08-11-2011, 01:03 PM

Okay, I take the train wreck back (though pankreatitis does in most case lead to much suffering without hope of a cure). But I stand by the no manners and dignity (his name in the German press is surely well-known and why he is called that way: no way to behave for a HRH! In public! During an art exhibition!) and he has an aggressive streak and has been judged accordingly by German Courts. That is fact, IMHO.

Tosca · #**313** 08-11-2011, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by capri

I don't understand the difference. OK, Caroline met Chatntal through Ernst. But both couples (Caro-Stefano / Ernst-Chantal) became very close and Ernst-Chantal were always invited in Monaco and even in special events, like marriage anniversary. Caroline shouldn't behave so badly to Chantal. Of course it was not only her fault. Ernst was responsible too. According to an old greek saying: "what you give you get". Sorry for being hard, but I want to be fair.

Caroline and Ernst were friends since childhood according to what I read. Long time ago I posted a photo of Caroline and Junot vacationing in Provence with Ernst, shortly after they got married.

azure · #**314** 08-11-2011, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathalie Cox

It's been said that Caroline has had an affair with her best friend's husband. That would be Ernst, and the supposed best friend would be Chantal.
However, Chantal was not Caroline's friend, it was Ernst. Caroline met Ernst long time before he got married to Chantal. Caroline was friends with Ernst first, and when he married, she simply had to get along, respectfully, with Chantal.

Of course she has no right to criticize her siblings for scandalous behaviours since she was involved in a quite a few, but it's incorrect to say that she was best friends with Chantal.

It's not that important to make it clear if Caroline was best friends with Chantal or not or if she met her thanks to Ernst, imho. This doesn't count that much. We don't know if Caro became close friends with Chantal as the time went by. I don't think that it plays any important role for what has been followed.

All this thing with Chantal/Ernst/Caro is a really sensitive issue and i don't want to say more.. Everyone knows he is agressive and spitfire and sot.. If i were Caroline - knowing all those things about him and his past - well, i wouldn't marry him..
At least Chantal is good now, as far as i'm concerned, and that's what matters for me.

azure · #**315** 08-11-2011, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by azure

It's not that important to make it clear if Caroline was best friends with Chantal or not or if she met her thanks to Ernst, imho. This doesn't count that much. We don't know if Caro became close friends with Chantal as the time went by. I don't think that it plays any important role for what has been followed.

All this thing with Chantal/Ernst/Caro is a really sensitive issue and i don't want to say more.. Everyone knows he is agressive and spitfire and sot.. If i were Caroline - knowing all those things about him and his past - well, i wouldn't marry him..
At least Chantal is good now, as far as i'm concerned, and that's what matters for me.

Caroline is also better now. After her separation she seems peaceful and relaxed...

FanofMonaco · #**316** 08-11-2011, 02:51 PM

There are other possibilities. Maybe PE and Chantal had been separated for awhile. Maybe PR pressured PC to marry PE because he is crown royalty. She always said she wasn't interested in marrying a prince. Also that the public didn't know all of the story. We don't know all of the facts.

Nadezhda · #**317** 05-18-2013, 06:56 PM

I think the best husband of Princess Caroline was Ernst of Hanover, Stefano seemed cold and distand. :/

NGalitzine · #**318** 05-18-2013, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nadezhda

I think the best husband of Princess Caroline was Ernst of Hanover, Stefano seemed cold and distand. :/

What makes you think so highly of EA?
Is it his getting so drunk at the pre wedding party of the Prince of Asturias that he was unable to attend the actual wedding or perhaps his peeing on the Turkish pavilion at Expo, or his physical attacks on people, or his holidays to Thailand and Spain with women he is not married to?

princess carmen · #**319** 05-18-2013, 08:08 PM

Stefano and Caroline seemed very much in love and happy. There is a saying the way you get a man is the way you will lose him. Who knows that saying might fit this situation.

capri · #**320** 05-19-2013, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by princess carmen

Stefano and Caroline seemed very much in love and happy. There is a saying the way you get a man is the way you will lose him. Who knows that saying might fit this situation.

According to Stefano, you mean the (not proved) story that when he met Caroline, he had an Italian fiancee?
I also agree that she was very happy with Stefano. He was not distant, but a little shy and low profile.
About EA, you mean his first marriage?
Anyway, it's too pity for Caroline. She didn't deserve this end. In the beggining of her relashionship with EA, she seemed very happy, like regaining her lost happiiness (after Stefano's sudden death).