Grace, Caroline, Charlotte, Alexandra. . . it's all in the genes!

rrinvan · Oct 5, 2007

Sorry to deviate from the current discussion, but I am currently watching "Rear Window" on cable and, man, I see Charlotte in Grace. The tilt in the head, the mouth, the regal bearing ... it is striking especially since Charlotte is very Mediterranean and Grace was so patrician.

ilovejoelmadden · Oct 5, 2007

i dont really think that Char looks like Grace,but i do think that she really look like Caroline when she was in the same age like Char rite now

zembla · Oct 5, 2007

Charlotte totally has the same face shape and features of Grace except for the lips. It's a trip to see how much she looks like her grandmother...

iloveroyals · Jan 4, 2008

iloveroyals · Jan 4, 2008

I am trying, but I am not very successful at this. I wanted to show the three generations of the "Kelly girls" in one piece bathing suits, preferably black, which proved impossible, mostly because Charlotte wears mostly bikinis. I also wanted to show if and how their bodies changed in a similar way (the gene thing) but then Charlotte is too young. Here are the pictures, and some comments.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scancharbikini21.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0054carobathinsuit.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0051groupwithcaro.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0047PGblackbathi.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0046PGblueb.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0045caro1415.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0043charrose.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0038carbi.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0037carogracesw.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0017carophil21.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0015caro21grace50blackbathingsu.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0014graceblackbathingsuit.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0014graceblackbathingsuit.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0014caro14half2piece.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0013caro14halfbathandshirt.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0020.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0017graceandstepalb.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0018carog16half.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0019carogracelevine15half.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0021pcbl.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0022dianabl.jpg

Grace in the purple bathing suit : age 45
Grace going down the stairs in a black bathing suit : 1980
Caroline in black bathing suit (cut low in front): age 34
Grace, Caroline (and Philippe), black bathing suits : 1978
Grace with patterned bathing suit : 1972 (can't find it anymore !)
Grace with Stephanie and Albert : circa 1975
Caroline in polka dot bikini the middle of her friends and with her cousin Grace Levine: age 15 and a half

I added one picture of Diana in a black one piece bathing suit for the following reason: it seems that the "aerobic" , working-out generation has really worked on their muscle tone !
Another observation : Caroline at 14 and 15 was taller and bigger boned than other girls her age. I think that is one major difference with her daughter, who is much narrower and smaller-boned. I think they are both gorgeous, but in different ways.
Also, as usual, Caroline always dominates any environment she happens to be in, which is not the case with Charlotte, who blends in more. (I don't mean to say she is any less beautiful, she just is not the Alpha girl her mother always was.)
I couldn't find a lot of pictures of Grace as a young woman in a bathing suit. That's why I put those pictures in the "shorts" category, for she sure didn't wear bikinis, but neither did she wear the modern cut one piece athletic looking bathing suit.

I remember Caroline saying in an interview that her mother wanted her and her siblings to excel in every sport, almost to a professional level. Well, Caroline, it sure paid off for you , for you have an amazing body, all honed and toned by all those sports and all that exercise which is obviously a way of life for you. Mama had it right, even if obviously she chose a different course in life and put that kind of "exercise is a religion" (I am quoting the title of the book Madona's trainer wrote) on the back burner of all her other obligations and interests.

iloveroyals · Jan 5, 2008

I found 2 more I was missing. Caroline in 1991, black bathing suit, after Stefano's death, and Grace in about 1972, in a print motif bathing suit.
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0034caro91.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/louise_030/scan0033grprs.jpg

lashinka2002 · Jan 5, 2008

royrrules said:
Sorry to deviate from the current discussion, but I am currently watching "Rear Window" on cable and, man, I see Charlotte in Grace. The tilt in the head, the mouth, the regal bearing ... it is striking especially since Charlotte is very Mediterranean and Grace was so patrician.

I very much agree with you.
I have always though that there were many pieces of Grace in Charlotte....
I think it's one of the reasons why Charlotte is so popular

tan_berry · Jan 5, 2008

Beauty of Monaco women

I think princes Albert and Andreas have the bigger ressemblance with Grace, when they were boys, before adquiring very masculine features. Caroline´s ressemblance with her paternal grandmother is big. The three of them: Grace, Caroline and Charlotte are perfect beauties, but Grace was the most perfect of them.

thekla · Mar 31, 2008

Johnnie said:
Okay gang, I don't mean to start a war here!

After perusing numerous pics of Charlotte over the years, I must say that, while I do find her to be very cute with an exceedingly attractive face, I just don't find her to be as gorgeous/classically beautiful as many think she is.

Again, don't get me wrong here - Charlotte is a very pretty young woman, but....I just don't see how she is ranked as one of Europe's top beauties. Alas, it's all in personal perception, one would suppose.

Who knows, perhaps she will develop more strikingly beautiful features as she matures?

In my opinion, it's Camille - Stephanie's youngest daughter, who is the 'one' to watch for. This little girl is going to be an absolute stunner!

I couldn't agree more! She's not very tall and has not the proportions to make her outstanding (long legs, nice shoulders and chest). Her shape goes more after her paternal grandmather rather than Princess Grace. She definitly will have to watch her weight in her later years.
You're right - Camille will be the stunner - a perfect mixture between Princess Grace and the striking features of Stephanie. Also the only blond of all the female grandchildren.
Compare her to cousin Alexandra and form your opinion - yes there's a justice

sandsla · Apr 1, 2008

Wow, these are some pretty sexist remarks! Unless you look like Barbie with a specified height and body measurement one is unattractive?

I think all three women are beautiful and have their own unique beauty in their own way! As it should be!

Everyone has their own idea of beauty I guess? I think if there is beauty inside it usually shows through to the outside! I believe the reverse is also true!

Cassi · Apr 1, 2008

One week ago, I saw the Grace Kelly photo exhibition. It is in Vienna now. It shows 120 pics of her from childhood to her time as a princess. And it shows a documentary, the one where Lizanne, her sister talks and with many private homevideos from Grace Kelly as a little kid. I never saw it before and it is really interesting. They interviewed as well some ex-colleauges from her Hollywood days. And they all described her as sweet, fun loving but also disciplined and ambitious (in a good way).

After seeing the pics and the film she is IMO the most beautiful woman I ever saw. She was just so perfect, she never looked messy. But I read somewhere she wished to dress as an old bag lady to be in Paris without being noticed. Maybe she was sometimes sick of the perfection and of course of the paparazzis.

Caroline and Charlotte are just another type because they are dark. In their faces you can see some Grace Kelly features. Charlotte is a good mixture of the Grimaldis, the Kellys and the Casiraghi. Her look is really special. She has one of the most interesting and beautiful faces. You just don`t get bored of her face. It is fascinating.

But Grace Kelly was perfect as a whole person. She had a perfect body, face and perfect hair.

Does anyone know how tall she was? (in cm)

zembla · Apr 1, 2008

Charlotte, Caroline and even Stephanie's young daughter all have that Grace face...you can see it in side by side comparisons. Stephanie's daughter in one pic looked a lot like a young Grace.

tan_berry · Apr 1, 2008

sandsla said:
Wow, these are some pretty sexist remarks! Unless you look like Barbie with a specified height and body measurement one is unattractive? I think all three women are beautiful and have their own unique beauty in their own way! As it should be! Everyone has their own idea of beauty I guess? I think if there is beauty inside it usually shows through to the outside! I believe the reverse is also true!

This is an interesting and original idea, really, that external beauty can influence inside beauty. I am not so sure about it like about the reverse. And I think that is the case with Grace and her children and Charlotte. Both outside and inside are luminous. Charlotte, especially, she looks to me like an extremely nice person, not at all arrogant or proud. I also have an idea similar to the one expressed in "Story of Dorian Grey" by Oscar Wilde, that with time flesh and soul become one, soul modifies flesh. In real life that happens without a Faustian pact with Satan: opaque feelings and actions create a disgusting aura in a face over time, like happened to Dorian Grey´s hidden picture.

oxygen · Apr 1, 2008

Cassi said:
Does anyone know how tall she was? (in cm)

I remember reading in biographies that she was around 170 cm.

sandsla · Apr 1, 2008

tan_berry said:
This is an interesting and original idea, really, that the external beauty can influence the inside beauty. I am not so sure about it like about the reverse. And I think that is the case with Grace and her children and Charlotte. Both the outside and the inside are luminous. Charlotte, especially, she looks to me like an extremely nice person, not at all arrogant or proud. I also have an idea similar to the one expressed in the "Story of Dorian Grey" by Oscar Wilde, that with time the flesh and the soul become one, the soul modifies the flesh. In real life that happens without the Faustian pact, opaque feelings and actions create a disgusting aura in a face over time, like happened to the hidden picture of Dorian Grey.

Perhaps I worded that badly, but I thought it was obvious what I meant, if you're ugly on the inside no matter how you look on the outside your true character & personality well show through! -- And that has away of diminishing anyone's physical attractiveness (IMO). That is why I think some people have IT, and others don't!

(sorry for the confusion in the wording)

giov · Apr 2, 2008

sandsla said:
Perhaps I worded that badly, but I thought it was obvious what I meant, if you're ugly on the inside no matter how you look on the outside your true character & personality well show through!

I do agree about the true character & personality, but unfortunately there are so many "devil people", with "angel" faces, who can hide their true character for long time.
Obviously that's not Charlotte's case. I do agree she looks nice and I think she is really nice.

poppy7 · Apr 2, 2008

thekla said:
I couldn't agree more! She's not very tall and has not the proportions to make her outstanding (long legs, nice shoulders and chest). Her shape goes more after her paternal grandmather rather than Princess Grace. She definitly will have to watch her weight in her later years.
You're right - Camille will be the stunner - a perfect mixture between Princess Grace and the striking features of Stephanie. Also the only blond of all the female grandchildren.
Compare her to cousin Alexandra and form your opinion - yes there's a justice

How mean spirited of you. Camille and Alexandra are little girls, and it is cruel to compare their appearance, in such a cruel fashion. Charlotte is a very goodlooking girl, and seeing as body type, and weight, usually come from the mother's side, I presume she will take after Princess Caroline, as she gets older. To make such comments on her legs, shoulders, and chest is just plain rude. I mean it is those kind of comments that make our world into the beauty obsessed culture it is. If a girl like Charlotte can be picked apart, in such a degrading fashion, what hope is there for most of us 'average joes' in the world, and as if being blond is important, Grace herself helped her blondness along, as she got older, with a little help from the dye bottle.

coco · Apr 4, 2008

thekla said:
I couldn't agree more! She's not very tall and has not the proportions to make her outstanding (long legs, nice shoulders and chest). Her shape goes more after her paternal grandmather rather than Princess Grace. She definitly will have to watch her weight in her later years.
You're right - Camille will be the stunner - a perfect mixture between Princess Grace and the striking features of Stephanie. Also the only blond of all the female grandchildren.
Compare her to cousin Alexandra and form your opinion - yes there's a justice

I agree that Charlotte has not the perfekt body but she is definitely a very unique and beatiful lady. Nobody's perfect.
About Camille. I also agree that she could become the stunner in a few years. But at the moment it is her and not Charlotte who has to watch her weight.
Charlotte had a few ups and downs with her weight in the last years. I remember some rumors in a magazine that she is pregnant when she was 18 in 2005. At the age of 17 she was pretty thin. But she was never overweight. But Camille is overweight at the moment, look in the Steph and family threats.
I think Camille looks a lot like her mother but not like Grace.
Charlotte looks like Caroline and sometimes they both look a bit like Grace.
And Pierre looks alot like his father!

Lozange · Apr 4, 2008

Coming of age

All these girls are still so young and yet opinions are formed already. I don't think a woman in her 20's is even fully developed. They are still untouched by life, have no gravity, barely any maturity. With time, we'll see who becomes most interesting, but it's too early to tell. Charlotte has great style, but her mother is also very style-conscious. Stephanie's daughter will have to define her own in my opinion.

reg709 · Apr 11, 2008

Vera Friedel said:
Yes I agree either.
Charlotte took some " blondiness" from her dad Stefano so her complexion is fairer and her hair is lighter than Caroline's.

All of the Kelly's were blondes as well. Charlotte was a platinum blonde when she was a toddler where Caroline was not.

Vera Friedel · Apr 12, 2008

I have never got all the fuss over Charlotte. She has a beautiful face indeed but mom Caroline at her age was far more beautiful and interesting.
Caroline has always had that " exotic" and " intriguing "flavor that Charlotte seems to lack . SHe looks a lot like dad Stefano, she's his spitting image. Look at this picture of little Char with daddy, Stefano is * similar* to Charlotte. Same features, same facial mimic. I see no Grace in Char.

http://worldroots.com/brigitte/royal/gifs4/charcasiraghi36.jpg

poppy7 · Apr 12, 2008

Vera Friedel said:
I have never got all the fuss over Charlotte. She has a beautiful face indeed but mom Caroline at her age was far more beautiful and interesting.
Caroline has always had that " exotic" and " intriguing "flavor that Charlotte seems to lack . SHe looks a lot like dad Stefano, she's his spitting image. Look at this picture of little Char with daddy, Stefano is * similar* to Charlotte. Same features, same facial mimic. I see no Grace in Char.

http://worldroots.com/brigitte/royal/gifs4/charcasiraghi36.jpg

I see Stefano in Charlotte, but she is most definately more like Caroline, but not as dark and med. looking. Sometimes I do see Stefano (especially in some facial expressions), and sometimes I see Grace (more so than in Caroline). I bet if you died Charlotte's hair blond, and actually gave her a 1950's style, she would look alot like Grace. Caroline doesn't have her grandmothers (P. Charlotte) bone structure either, she has the eyes and the colouring, but the cheek bones are different, the jaw line, the nose. I don't know where Caroline and Charlotte got their cheekbones (and don't remember seeing a picture of Grace where anthing as define), but it wasn't from Princess Charlotte. Charlotte looks less like Princess Charlotte than Caroline does also, the eyes are different, and she has none of her features, more of a 'look' if you get me, that is similar.

When she was younger, Charlotte looked alot like Grace, and I am beginning to see the resemblance again, as she enters her twenties, and she is beginning to look less and less like Caroline at the same age, although there is no getting away from the strong resemblance. I wonder if it will be reversed for Alexandra, as in she will get more and more like her mother a she gets older. Who knows.

Vera Friedel · Apr 12, 2008

Stefano's mom Fernanda must have been a very beautiful woman in her youth.

rrinvan · Apr 13, 2008

poppy7 said:
I see Stefano in Charlotte, but she is most definately more like Caroline, but not as dark and med. looking. Sometimes I do see Stefano (especially in some facial expressions), and sometimes I see Grace (more so than in Caroline). I bet if you died Charlotte's hair blond, and actually gave her a 1950's style, she would look alot like Grace. Caroline doesn't have her grandmothers (P. Charlotte) bone structure either, she has the eyes and the colouring, but the cheek bones are different, the jaw line, the nose. I don't know where Caroline and Charlotte got their cheekbones (and don't remember seeing a picture of Grace where anthing as define), but it wasn't from Princess Charlotte. Charlotte looks less like Princess Charlotte than Caroline does also, the eyes are different, and she has none of her features, more of a 'look' if you get me, that is similar.

When she was younger, Charlotte looked alot like Grace, and I am beginning to see the resemblance again, as she enters her twenties, and she is beginning to look less and less like Caroline at the same age, although there is no getting away from the strong resemblance. I wonder if it will be reversed for Alexandra, as in she will get more and more like her mother a she gets older. Who knows.

When you watch Grace Kelly films, esp Rear Window and To Catch A Thief, you would see where Caroline and Charlotte inherited their bone structure. Grace's face may be more square, but the cheekbones, the jaw, the neck she bequeathed to her girls.

However, if you see pictures of Grace's elder sister Peggy in her younger years, her bone structure resembles Caroline's. In other words, the structured face is a Kelly gene.

tan_berry · Apr 13, 2008

Charlotte looks sweeter than Caroline. She did not grow up being a princess and the daughter of Grace Kelly, a fairy tale princess. It seems to me, too, that she is a more serene person than her mother, less rebel. I have read that she blends in easier than Caroline. Most of you do not remember, but Caroline had all the paparazzi of the world after her since she was very young. What they did later after Diana, they did first with Caroline. Too much for an immature person.

poppy7 · Apr 23, 2008

I have to pop by and say, I saw the Grace Kelly biography thingy today, and oh my god is Charlotte the absolute spit of Grace when she was in her early twenties. It is uncanny, I always thought Charlotte looked a bit like Grace, but I always saw more Caroline, but goodness,I really could not believe it. There was one picture of Grace, and she looked practically identical to one I saw of Charlotte at the recent Rose Ball. Except when Charlotte is doing the stereotypical French girl pouting/sulking thing, I really thing most of her facial expressions (including the scrunching of the face in concentration), and all of her bone structure is Grace (her cheek bones are more sculpted and she has a softer jawline, making her face feel less 'flat', if you get me, in profile). I was nearly knocked for six.

P.s Camille looks really like Lizanne Kelly.

moby · Apr 24, 2008

I'm also one of those people who couldn't see the Grace-Charlotte similarity, until I saw a footage of Grace on TV. The similarity is remarkable, I wasn't even looking for a it between them but it's there. I can't quite put my finger on how they do look alike. Maybe it's the facial expressions. It's a lot more noticeable when Grace smiles, her eyes totally remind me of Charlotte. I also notice that still photos of Grace can't quite convey these similarities.

poppy7 · Apr 28, 2008

You know it is freaking me out a bit. I never thought they looked that a like; I thought there was a passing resemblance but that's it. They really really look a like. I think I never saw it before because Charlotte, of course, looks very modern, and her hair usually isn't fixed, and her make - ups not perfect etc. but when she fixes her hair, and is all dressed up they look the image of one another but with slight differences (Charlotte's lips are bigger, her jawline's softer etc) and different colouring. Even their expressions are similar. I saw one picture of Grace when she was around 22, looking very casual and with her hair in a ponytail, and smiling, and I swear if you weren't paying attention you'd think it was Charlotte. I always thought she was so like Caroline, but lately, in the last year or so, I have seen other gene's kicking in, but seriously I didn't think they'd be Grace's, as quite honestly I never thought her daughters or granddaughters looked that like her. Boy was I wrong. I think the problem is too, that we don't really know what Grace looked like as a teen and when she was in her early twenties. I mean there are quite a number of childhood pictures around, but not so many when she was a teenager.

I have also noticed that while, at one stage, in nearly every picture Charlotte looked like Caroline. They were practically clones (through Charlotte's early teen years), this is no longer the case, and now it is more a case of me seeing the odd picture and going, oh she looks really like her mother there. Idon't know when this changed. I really am shocked. Charlotte. alomg with Camille is definately a Kelly girl.

summer723 · Oct 11, 2008

iloveroyals said:
Lucia Rose, thanks for the profiles.
I have posted my Grace Levine pictures in the Grace Levine thread. I'll have to go back and see if I posted all the ones I have.
I am out of town and don't have pictures with me, but as soon as I get home, I want to post a picture of Grace Kelly with Ava Gardner in Mogambo. It struck me, out of the blue, that Caroline looks like Ava Gardner, dark, indominable, domineering (I don't mean it in a mean way) to a meeker looking Grace (she was the "good girl" in the movie.) And as I have written before, when Caroline and Grace are together, it always seems as if Caroline is the dominant one. More about this later.

what is this thread called. i have been looking for pictures of grace levine and havent been able to find many and i would love to see more pictures of her she is very beautiful

iloveroyals · Oct 11, 2008

summer723 said:
what is this thread called. i have been looking for pictures of grace levine and havent been able to find many and i would love to see more pictures of her she is very beautiful

If you're looking for pictures of Grace Levine, look in "Princely Family of Monaco", the "Grace Levine" thread, bottom of page 4.

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