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Old 05-29-2018, 07:38 PM
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Given that they wanted to quit, it makes sense to make it a biennial event instead of a yearly event.
Who wanted to quit?
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Old 05-29-2018, 08:04 PM
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I certainly don't think Harry ever wanted it to end. It's just been a question of sponsorships, who is going to pay for the Games, given that it was only underwritten by the Ministry of Defence for the one year at the beginning. Sadly, the IG arent the sort of thing that bring in huge profits and crowds, so it's always had a shadow over it as far as ongoing costings are concerned.

I do think that bi-annual Games are probably better. This allows interest to grow, gives athletes time to recover between each tournament, and will hopefully give time to get those all important sponsorships on board.
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Old 05-29-2018, 08:15 PM
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Harry also discussed whether there would be enough participants who would be willing to train at a high level given the thought at the time being that the wars were winding down (a good thing). Many of the athletes, though, see IG as a good pre-cursor for the para-olympics, and IG has conducted some interesting research on how this model can help heal mental and physical trauma.

And unfortunately, troops are still getting injured or killed in the various conflicts going on.

So this was in large parts a big experiment that so far keeps paying off not only for the organizers but most importantly for the athletes themselves.

I think trying to do the Games every year doesn't make much sense. They are a massive undertaking and require a lot of planning for the organizers and the athletes.
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Old 05-29-2018, 08:30 PM
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Exactly, there was talk of having a grand finale in London in 2020 to bring the Invictus Games to an end. See for example this article from September 2017 but it looks like that idea has been shut down.
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Old 05-29-2018, 08:52 PM
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I think having it every two years is better. This way the games can actually be grander since they have more prep time. That extra year can make a world of difference. And we have seen what they have done yearly, so just imagine.
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Old 05-29-2018, 09:28 PM
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Exactly, there was talk of having a grand finale in London in 2020 to bring the Invictus Games to an end. See for example this article from September 2017 but it looks like that idea has been shut down.
Ok, I've heard this speculation, but that's hardly wanting to quit. But either way, Harry has always maintain that IG will be around as long as it is needed, but at some point, it will be back in the box when it's no longer needed. Having less injured soldiers is always a good thing.
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Old 06-04-2018, 04:16 AM
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Prince Harry and The Invictus Games: 2014 and 2016-2018

"I am delighted to announce that The Hague is taking up the challenge of hosting the 5th #InvictusGames. The city will soon become the motivation for hundreds of servicemen and women using the Games to inspire their recovery from physical and mental injuries."– The Duke of Sussex

"The Netherlands has supported the #InvictusGames from the very beginning, and I know that everyone there will fully get behind and support the soldiers and veterans who have served their countries so bravely." – The Duke of Sussex

"We have already seen in London, Orlando, and Toronto just how exciting hosting the #InvictusGames can be, and I know this will be an incredible experience for everyone in The Hague @InvictusGamesNL as they embrace the Invictus spirit in 2020." – The Duke of Sussex

Officially announced by KP this morning.

https://twitter.com/kensingtonroyal/...698872832?s=21
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Old 06-04-2018, 06:41 AM
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The Mayor of The Hague, Mrs Pauline Krikke: "[...] Ik weet zeker dat deze veteranen zich in de internationale Stad van Vrede en Recht thuis zullen voelen. Wij als Den Haag zullen hen in ieder geval met open armen ontvangen. Ik dank de Hertog van Sussex en zijn organisatie voor het vertrouwen in Den Haag."

("[...] I am sure that these veterans will feel at home in the international City of Peace and Justice. We, as The Hague, will receive them with open arms. I would like to thank The Duke of Sussex and his organization for the trust in The Hague".
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Old 06-04-2018, 08:59 AM
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So, are the games going to be every 18 months now? This is getting confusing.

All that aside, just want to point out what an inspiration the IG and its competitors are. I got goosebumps just watching that video.
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Old 06-04-2018, 06:42 PM
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So, are the games going to be every 18 months now? This is getting confusing.
It will be a biennial event in the future.
Sydney -2018
The Hague -2020
? -2022
Etc.
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Old 06-04-2018, 07:36 PM
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Ok, I've heard this speculation, but that's hardly wanting to quit. But either way, Harry has always maintain that IG will be around as long as it is needed, but at some point, it will be back in the box when it's no longer needed. Having less injured soldiers is always a good thing.
I agree, however, the IG was created to aid with mental as well as physical disabilities and the greater majority of them are young. They have the rest of their lives to live and that need is not going to go away. PTSD does not just go away and neither does the daily grind that can cause injured servicemen and women to become isolated and disengaged.

I have to admire the strength of will it took to get the IG off the ground and to see that Harry's vision for it is coming true. It will not end just yet and I fervently pray that the Governments of those who have sent their youth to fight will continue to support their Veterans and enable this to continue until it is no longer needed.

Just think how far we have come in recognising the effects of PTSD? In WWI they shot troops for cowardice, in WWII they diagnosed them with shell shock and sent them back to the line, in Vietnam we sent them home, gave them pills and ignored them and, in all the years and conflicts since they were just expected to 'man up' and deal with it.

But with the IG the Vets got to look outward, strive and help each other while their countries both recognised and supported them with more than good wishes. Yes, some theatres of war are winding down . . . . but unfortunately, they always seem to find a new one.
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:58 PM
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The Opening Ceremony is being held on the Opera House forecourt - October 20th.

It will be broadcast live across Austalia by the ABC, and live-streamed for the rest of the world.

You may have seen Oprah broadcast from the forecourt - and Mary and Frederik attend a concert there.

The forecourt is often used, but places are being limited to the participants, their families and supporters. (Any remaining space may go to the general public.)
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Old 08-14-2018, 08:20 PM
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Thank you Sun Lion. That will be something to look forward to, and I will be watching. The IG and a tour afterwards. Wonderful.
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Old 08-18-2018, 04:00 AM
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The Invictus flag was flown from the Sydney Harbour Bridge - and other landmarks, schools, military barracks - to raise awarness of the event here in October.

Members of the Australian team did the Bridge Climb.

Some photos and a nice article.

Also, some photos of Mary and Frederik - with Mary's sister and brother-in-law, and friend Amber - doing Bridge Climb.

And some of Pippa and her husband, doing it too.

Maybe Harry and Meghan will have a go when they're here.

(I've done it, it's worth doing. Not hard, but a bit scary when you emerge from under the roadway amongst all the vehicles whizzing past - but totally safe of course.)

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/...def?width=1024

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...af3a746b579161

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YwcTTgaaRg...e+climb..1.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-L8O9dL4Vu4...ge+climb...jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kfZoXLpC7d...e+climb..0.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-z1Yxz_EQHC...idge+climb.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017...6228705865.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017...6229144801.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017...6228160988.jpg

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Old 08-19-2018, 06:54 PM
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A new $2.00 coin should be hitting peoples pockets in Australia about now - 2.3 million are being released - to mark the Invictus Games here.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...w=w225-h300-nc

(A stand was set up where people could trade in their ordinary coins for the Invictus ones, to get them into circulation sooner.)
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Old 08-20-2018, 02:55 AM
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I imagine Harry and Meghan trying to do the bridge climb might be a bit of a security and logistics nightmare. Just trying to accommodate the press alone might result in having to shut down part of the bridge.
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Old 08-20-2018, 03:57 AM
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I imagine Harry and Meghan trying to do the bridge climb might be a bit of a security and logistics nightmare. Just trying to accommodate the press alone might result in having to shut down part of the bridge.
I was thinking they'd do it more as a private experience, than as an opportunity for the media Fros.

But even if it was official, there is an enormous amount of parkland under the bridge approach where photos/videos could be taken from.

A few thousand people could fit in that area - and no traffic involved.

Traffic on the bridge is un-hindered by climbers - climbers go constantly day and night, in large groups.

Busy days can have six or seven groups on the bridge at any one time, groups of twenty or so.

It's been a big business in Sydney for several years now.

(And no more of a security risk than the usual walkabouts amongst members of the public in the street.)

I hope they do a few less traditional things while here.

Bathurst wants them to drive around Mt Panorama - a car racing track. I hope they do.
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Old 08-20-2018, 04:24 AM
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Please note - Mt Panorama is only a car racing track during two weeks of the year - when the bike races and again the car races are on. The rest of the time it is a normal road with normal road rules applying.

I lived in Bathurst for many years and did my driving test there. You always knew you were in with a chance of getting it when the police officer (yes - when I did my test in rural NSW the tests were undertaken by cops not by people from the RTA) asked you to drive up Mt Panorama 'the wrong way' - in other words up through the 'sssss' rather than down them. Hill starts in the 'ssssss' are a lot of fun.

Other than during race week it is a normal two way road with many people living up there along with many businesses. A lot of people, not from Bathurst, think it is a race-track all year round rather than only for two or so weeks a year.
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Old 08-20-2018, 08:56 PM
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An Invictus "Walk and Talk" path is being set up at Manly.

This article has the details. (Certainly a lot of promotion going on here in Oz about the games.) -

https://m.manlyaustralia.com.au/news...walk-and-talk/

Manly was the beach William and Kate visited - and in the seat of who was then the Prime Minister.

Bondi is being touted as where Harry and Meghan will visit - the beach in the seat of the current Prime Minister.

(And I think this will happen, as there has been great rivalry between these two politicians. I can't see the current one not getting the same show out there.)
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Old 08-20-2018, 10:23 PM
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Assuming he is still the PM by then - after the events of this morning he may not even be PM next week.

For anyone who doesn't know the Liberal Party (our party in government federally at the moment) had a leadership vote this morning and the sitting PM won - but 38 members of his own party voted against him and only 45 voted for him. Based on past history the challenger will probably try again in a month or so and will do so with enough votes to oust the sitting PM so it is possible that by the time the Invictus Games begins we will have a different PM to the one we have now.

I notice that the promotion is based in the eastern suburbs of Sydney - don't assume that this promotion is happening across the city. I have seen none where I am and on asking my colleagues and friends none even know what they are let alone that Sydney is hosting them. I do live in a highly multicultural area who don't relate to a lot of the British traditions of Australia anyway which may also affect their lack of knowledge about the Invictus Games.

I know when they are on but not which venues are being used - that isn't being advertised very well and certainly not in my local area which is why I enjoy reading SunLion's posts - so I can find out what is being said in the wealthy parts of Sydney rather than the working class area where I live.
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