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Old 02-19-2021, 04:56 PM
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It's the same thing that has been going since last year. TRF being graceful and kind to the Sussexes, emphasizing that they're still a beloved members of the family and the Sussexes being their snarky and entitled selves, because they didn't get completely everything that they wanted. Somehow not surprising to me at all.
Divorce is hard. And I often observe that it is the very partner that sets it in motion who in the end begins to become more reactionary. As the initial devastation was not theirs but rather the dumped but then theirs grows as they observe how they cannot have things the way they imagined. It is painful and essentially is Harry and Meghan saying they wanted to stay married while seeing other people
They had even kitted out their little pied de terre for this to happen. Other partner says no: in or out. They choose out but had use of the holiday villa and home for a while. Then the other partner says time for this to end. We need to move on now.

Basically life is full of compromise and choices and I hope they both grow up enough to see there was no other way to do this. You can't have your cake and eat it even some commentators on TV I see saying how great it would have been to have them half in and out. But how? How would that be managed? They would have had to continue to someone control their every move.

Time to move on. Everyone does eventually.

In fact I think the royals messed up with Diana in allowing her to carry on post divorce and thereby contributing to the eventual tragedy. If they had taken away all the royal stuff. It would have made life easier in the long run.
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Old 02-19-2021, 04:58 PM
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Just a pity they didnt word their statement as eloquently as you put it, Osipi.
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Old 02-19-2021, 05:11 PM
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I think both statements were in haste. All that said it is finally over. Harry and Meghan no longer are working members of the royal family. I agree that they likely won't step foot in the UK at all this year barring a tragedy.

They are all still family but we know family can be complicated. But they have the distance to all start over and now they all officially can. It is a win/win for them all even if there is disappointment from both sides.
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Old 02-19-2021, 05:20 PM
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I would be surprised if Harry isn't in the UK in July for the unveiling of the statue to Diana on the 1st July (assuming that that isn't the time Meghan is having her baby).

I would also expect him, at least, to return for his grandfather's 100th birthday - again unless Meghan is having the baby. To do otherwise would, in my opinion, mean he would never return for any reason.
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Old 02-19-2021, 05:21 PM
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I would be surprised if Harry isn't in the UK in July for the unveiling of the statue to Diana on the 1st July (assuming that that isn't the time Meghan is having her baby).

I would also expect him, at least, to return for his grandfather's 100th birthday - again unless Meghan is having the baby. To do otherwise would, in my opinion, mean he would never return for any reason.
Providing that travel is safe by then.. I hope he'd alos come for Phil' birthday but travel may not be possible..
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Old 02-19-2021, 05:27 PM
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I don't see Harry leaving Meghan and Archie for extended travel. During that time Meghan would likely have just had the baby. And despite the family tone of the statements -- my guess both sides would rather keep their distance from each other for now.
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Old 02-19-2021, 05:29 PM
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I would think very badly of him if he could come home for Philip's birthday and doesnt....
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Old 02-19-2021, 05:31 PM
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Although they have left the firm but still loved family members they have not been very tactful in their statements or the book. I am not sure how you can play happy families after all that.
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Old 02-19-2021, 05:34 PM
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Sky News Breaking twitter account made a mistake, where it put The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge not returning as Senior working royals!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EulsC2LX...pg&name=medium

Sky News Breaking quickly deleted the tweet and published a new one with the correct names, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/sta...37234059870210

This is not the first time that Sky News get the names of the public figures wrong/messed up. Last year, they got Dominic Cummings (then Chief advisor to the Prime Minister) and Dominic Raab (Foreign Secretary) messed up.
Picture of the wrong tweet: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZIIIanW...g&name=900x900
The corrected tweet: https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1266098165431717888
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Old 02-19-2021, 05:37 PM
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I would think very badly of him if he could come home for Philip's birthday and doesnt....
Are they even wanted? I mean really? Who knows how it really is behind the scenes. Besides Harry will likely have a very young baby at home. I don't see many faulting him not attending. But lets see how it all plays out....

I not expecting much travel in 2021 for the Sussexes but we shall see.
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Old 02-19-2021, 05:38 PM
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I'm more annoyed they're giving their interview to Oprah who I can't stand than by their statement. I thought it was pretty innocuous. All they said was that they weren't going to stop supporting their charities no matter if they were the official patron or not. But the Mail Online is sure reading all sorts of insults into it.
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Old 02-19-2021, 05:56 PM
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From what I've read the UK is pretty much closed down. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't go to the UK for either occasions and I wouldn't read that much into it.


I'm more annoyed they're giving their interview to Oprah who I can't stand than by their statement. I thought it was pretty innocuous. All they said was that they weren't going to stop supporting their charities no matter if they were the official patron or not. But the Mail Online is sure reading all sorts of insults into it.
It's not just The Mail spinning out negative stories, even The Times are running with the front page headline "Harry and Meghan hit back at loss of royal roles".
Neil Henderson @hendopolis
TIMES: Harry and Meghan hit back at loss of royal roles #TomorrowsPapersToday
8:53 AM · Feb 20, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/statu...83034433880068

Picture of the front page of The Times: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eunu5R7W...g&name=900x900

The online article does not have the strong heading, but the first sentence did mention that Harry & Meghan were not happy with the decision
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The Duke and Duchess of Sussex hit back with a barbed statement about public service after Buckingham Palace announced this afternoon that they would not be returning as working members of the royal family.
Prince Harry and Meghan to give up all royal titles
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...tles-f0ps7d3p8

Although not in the front page of The Telegraph, Camilla Tominey even went further to suggest that Harry & Meghan did not grasp the concept of public service and were only keen on discussing about themselves rather than with The Royal Family in mind.

Prince Harry and Meghan don't seem to understand what public service actually is
The royals have tried to hold a national conversation – but the Sussexes seem to have largely been in conversation with themselves
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-fa...box=1613757839

Chris Ship gave his analysis as to why The Sussexes appeared to be upset and upset based on their statement. He also mentioned that the interview with Oprah did not help the situation either, in fact kind of make things worse.

The true story of what happened between the Queen and the Sussexes this week
https://www.itv.com/news/2021-02-19/...exes-this-week

I agree with previous posters that the statement released by the Sussexes is passive-aggressive and appear to be very angry with The Queen and Palace's decision.
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Old 02-19-2021, 06:03 PM
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I'm not surprised with the tone of their statement, Harry and Meghan has been passive-aggressive towards the BRF for over a year now.
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Old 02-19-2021, 06:13 PM
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Definitely sounds like a parting shot at Her Majesty, I can only think of her sadness as she likely wishes she didn't approve of this wedding.

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You guys act like The Queen wrote that statement. I suspect it was the usual employees who have caused issues in the past. It is just more of the same.
The Queen would 100 % read a statement before it is released. Her Majesty is not a fool.

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He is one plane crash away from becoming the heir; while I very much hope not to see it happen, it is a small but real possibility. That's why I think it is quite problematic.

The royal family also clearly expressed their disappointment (as they've done consistently, while also always including a phrase about them remaining beloved family members).
This is important to note that the Queen herself was not top 3 in line and she is Queen, so you never know. No one knows what will happen. Considering all the Royal duties overseas - he is a plane crash as said above from being king.
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Old 02-19-2021, 06:28 PM
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The Queen would 100 % read a statement before it is released. Her Majesty is not a fool.
Ok then ppl need to stop reading into BOTH statements that either side was being snarky, throwing shade or whatever you want to call it. There is no reason for The Queen or The Sussexes to snipe about this decision.


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Old 02-19-2021, 06:28 PM
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This is important to note that the Queen herself was not top 3 in line and she is Queen, so you never know. No one knows what will happen. Considering all the Royal duties overseas - he is a plane crash as said above from being king.
She was third in line to the throne the day she was born behind uncle and father. And despite how we exclaim she wasnt born to be Queen...she was the eldest child of the second in line and the heir was not showing any indication of settling down. It was unlikely but it was not beyond realms of possibility.

I think Harry in all likelihood is hopefully highly unlikely. And in any case George will be 18 in 10 years.
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Old 02-19-2021, 06:32 PM
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Not surprising and good that the decision is made and public (and indeed i wouldn't be surprised if it had to do with the announced interview that this has been published now)

H&M can go their own way (am going to ignore the snarky remark..if they are snarky in said interview, i'll reconsider )

i'm just disappointed for QEII thinking her life as a "senior royal" (heir to the throne) started when one family member chose his own preferences over the life in service to the country that imo the Queen herself so obviously values, and now, won't say "ends", is rounded of by another family member doing the same.
Ofcourse it's great that the family members can make their own choices if they want, and i'm pretty sure that HM would be the last person to want someone to feel sorry for her, but i do a bit...
Queen Elizabeth would have been Queen anyway. If Edward VIII had stayed on the throne,he had no children after he and Wallis married. I doubt he would have married anyone else at that point. She would have had a longer wait perhaps since he died in 1972 but she still would have been monarch. Harry is so far down the line of succession and has no chance of being a monarch.
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Old 02-19-2021, 06:33 PM
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The Queen would 100 % read a statement before it is released. Her Majesty is not a fool.
You are absolutely correct, the Queen would have had to approve every word of that statement before it was released.
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Old 02-19-2021, 06:35 PM
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I'm not surprised with the tone of their statement, Harry and Meghan has been passive-aggressive towards the BRF for over a year now.
Harry and Meghan may very well have a staffer or consultant who pushed for this aggressive parting statement. I suppose I am just hoping that the Sussexes are kinder and more prudent that the statement implies.

I do think that the loss of royal patronages and honorary positions was inevitable once the multi-million-dollar Netflix deal was in place. Boundaries would get very blurry if the Sussex Netflix content included anything having to do with their Royal public service interests or activities.
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Old 02-19-2021, 06:46 PM
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Ok then ppl need to stop reading into BOTH statements that either side was being snarky, throwing shade or whatever you want to call it. There is no reason for The Queen or The Sussexes to snipe about this decision.


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I don't think anyone is reading into either statement. If you aren't reading snark or shade into the Sussex statement- and certainly you are entitled not to, and to share that you don't, and no one questions that- you stand almost alone, as mainstream media the world over has been taken aback at the tone.

People are just calling a spade a spade this time, Pranter.
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