The Duke and Duchess of Sussex: Transition & Future

[evolvingdoors]

Originally Posted by rominet09

I think having worked for them on a CV will powerfully help them to find a good job !

No it won’t, it really really won’t. Meghan, and Harry by connection, are now considered toxic of the highest degree, not to mention the general hostility towards them over their treatment of the queen, Charles and William.
No sane employer would want to get near any one who choose to work for them, they essentially failed their job in making sure they don’t screw up (which they did) they couldn’t even stop Harry and Meghan from publishing that proclamation and that idiotic demand list.

[Osipi]

Actually, I believe it was the staff that worked at the Sussex office in Buckingham Palace that were let go as that office is closing due to Harry and Meghan no longer being a part of or working for the BRF "Firm".

They may still have an office and staff in the UK eventually as I don't believe they're giving up incentives and involvement in working with charities and patronages that they feel close to that were not and are still not part and parcel of what their "official BRF" work was such as Invictus Games, Hubb Kitchen, Smart Works and such. In other words, the personal connections they've already established and will keep.

If I'm remembering right, the Sussexes do still plan to spend part of the year in the UK and aren't abandoning the UK forever and not looking back.

[yvr girl]

Originally Posted by QueenMathilde

I thought they let go of the staff at Frogmore as well? And I also read that they were looking at an 11 million pound house to buy ( or maybe it was dollars) in Canada.

I've seen so much speculation on homes they are looking at. Most of them are ridiculous choices. A lot of them are in the 15 million dollars plus range...many even higher than that. I don't think they could afford a house like that right now.

One was in a trendy neighborhood in Vancouver right on the waterfront. That house is nestled in between 2 beaches. That stretch of water is filled with pleasure craft, paddleboards etc. It wouldn't offer them much privacy.

I think that these stories are pure speculation.

[Betsypaige]

Originally Posted by evolvingdoors

No it won’t, it really really won’t. Meghan, and Harry by connection, are now considered toxic of the highest degree, not to mention the general hostility towards them over their treatment of the queen, Charles and William.
No sane employer would want to get near any one who choose to work for them, they essentially failed their job in making sure they don’t screw up (which they did) they couldn’t even stop Harry and Meghan from publishing that proclamation and that idiotic demand list.

Wait, I don’t know what CV is, but if you’re referring to the employees that were let go, how on earth would anyone blame them for Harry and Meghan’s actions?


TLLK:

I agree as well that this is permanent. I'm sorry for those who left other positions that their time with the Sussexes was short lived, but hopefully they will be able to find employment quickly.

I hope they can find work within the royal family....

I’m pessimistic about Harry ever doing anything much beyond these last couple of events....I’m kind of doubtful now that he’ll show up for even family events, like Trouping the Colour. I know that’s official, but still, it’s the Queen’s birthday event - it’s not like he’d be working. I hope I’m wrong.

[TLLK]

While I too hope that some will be able to find work within the "Firm," some of them left positions with the Royal Foundation and I have to wonder if they might have already been replaced.

[Erin9]

Originally Posted by TLLK

I agree as well that this is permanent. I'm sorry for those who left other positions that their time with the Sussexes was short lived, but hopefully they will be able to find employment quickly.

I am too. What a waste for them. There’s nothing fun about job hunting- especially when you don’t have one.

While this was obviously a practical decision, it makes my sympathy for Meghan and Harry go down further. They could’ve saved a lot of people a lot of trouble- including their family- had they really thought things through from the beginning.

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by Betsypaige

Wait, I don’t know what CV is, but if you’re referring to the employees that were let go, how on earth would anyone blame them for Harry and Meghan’s actions?

A CV is basically a resume, but more detailed.

I agree, the people were employees not minders, it wasn’t their place to make The Sussexes do anything.

[poppy7]

Originally Posted by Osipi

Actually, I believe it was the staff that worked at the Sussex office in Buckingham Palace that were let go as that office is closing due to Harry and Meghan no longer being a part of or working for the BRF "Firm".

They may still have an office and staff in the UK eventually as I don't believe they're giving up incentives and involvement in working with charities and patronages that they feel close to that were not and are still not part and parcel of what their "official BRF" work was such as Invictus Games, Hubb Kitchen, Smart Works and such. In other words, the personal connections they've already established and will keep.

If I'm remembering right, the Sussexes do still plan to spend part of the year in the UK and aren't abandoning the UK forever and not looking back.

No. They would have worked with the staff of these organisations. They are not their staff...even though Harry set up Invictus. A staff was hired to run it. They don't work for Harry per sae

American media now beginning to 'turn' on Harry and Meghan. And by that I mean just starting to question the narrative they put forward. It's what happens.

[Countessmeout]

Originally Posted by Osipi

Actually, I believe it was the staff that worked at the Sussex office in Buckingham Palace that were let go as that office is closing due to Harry and Meghan no longer being a part of or working for the BRF "Firm".

They may still have an office and staff in the UK eventually as I don't believe they're giving up incentives and involvement in working with charities and patronages that they feel close to that were not and are still not part and parcel of what their "official BRF" work was such as Invictus Games, Hubb Kitchen, Smart Works and such. In other words, the personal connections they've already established and will keep.

If I'm remembering right, the Sussexes do still plan to spend part of the year in the UK and aren't abandoning the UK forever and not looking back.

Besides their commonwealth role, and honorary military, their charity work is the official BRF role. That's part of their official gig.

True, no doubt they will continue with their charities. They have she they will. But in reality that doesn't require a staff. If anything maybe an assistant fir scheduling. Those charities have their isn trained staff.

Patronage wise they are basically the York girls now. They have a small handful of patronages. Like the York girls they don't really need a staff to over see that. They don't need the umbrella of a foundation so no need for foundation staff,

Makes more sense to focus their effort and money on staff for their business and initiatives. That is where they will need the help if any.

[Betsypaige]

Originally Posted by Erin9

I am too. What a waste for them. There’s nothing fun about job hunting- especially when you don’t have one.

While this was obviously a practical decision, it makes my sympathy for Meghan and Harry go down further. They could’ve saved a lot of people a lot of trouble- including their family- had they really thought things through from the beginning.

I was laid off from work last April as my office closed, and I just really found a job a few weeks ago. Rebecca English doesn’t think more than 2 or 3 will be reassigned, so if true, that’s pretty much it for these poor folks who have been - from what I’m reading - incredibly loyal to Harry and Meghan.

I’m afraid I agree with Richard Kay (swipe right to read his editorial), though I won’t lay this all at Meghan’s feet as Harry is clearly very happy to ditch his family and birthright. Yes, I’m aware that this doesn’t mean that he’ll never return, or that he can’t communicate with people via Skype or whatever, but we don’t know that’s the case. I’m personally sad about the whole thing - for Charles, William, etc.. - while at the same time, I don’t give a darn what they do and I’m glad NY papers aren’t reporting on them.

https://twitter.com/re_dailymail/sta...703065601?s=21

Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile

A CV is basically a resume, but more detailed.

I agree, the people were employees not minders, it wasn’t their place to make The Sussexes do anything.

Thank you!

You can’t make adults do anything...the Sussexes staff got shafted.

American media now beginning to 'turn' on Harry and Meghan. And by that I mean just starting to question the narrative they put forward. It's what happens.

Poppy, I’ve read one article bashing Harry and Meghan (but, it’s the NY Post); have you read more?

[Denville]

He will problaby vist frequently to see familybut I don't think he's going to do that much work in the UK. His future is in America/Canada. I think they are stuck with Frogmore as it is not a place that can be easily retned to someone else.. for security reasons. So if H and Meg come back at times it can be opened up forthem.

[Alison H]

They've been told that they've got to pay commercial rent on Frogmore, now that they're no longer working royals. That's going to be a lot of money for somewhere they're only using for a few weeks a year, but I don't know what the alternative is - they can hardly put an ad in the local paper offering it for rent, much as I'm sure loads of people would love the idea! What a waste of a multi-million pound refurbishment.

It's not really practical to spend half the year in one country and half in another, as was originally being suggested. I know some people do, but that's usually retired people trying to avoid bad weather. You can't be running backwards and forwards with a toddler. Once Archie's old enough for school, their travel options are going to be very limited.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Alison H

They've been told that they've got to pay commercial rent on Frogmore, now that they're no longer working royals. That's going to be a lot of money for somewhere they're only using for a few weeks a year, but I don't know what the alternative is - they can hardly put an ad in the local paper offering it for rent, much as I'm sure loads of people would love the idea! What a waste of a multi-million pound refurbishment.

It's not really practical to spend half the year in one country and half in another, as was originally being suggested. I know some people do, but that's usually retired people trying to avoid bad weather. You can't be running backwards and forwards with a toddler. Once Archie's old enough for school, their travel options are going to be very limited.

yes that's the problem. with some royal houses/apartmetns they can be rented out to suitable people who can pay a high rent.. (and some are given as low rentals to former staff). but I think because of where Frogmore Is situatied its not easy to put the house to another use with someone renting it. I agree its not practical to sepnd half the year in the UK nad the rest away, as they seem to have orginally believed they would do. If they were leading a quiet retired life.. maybe but even if they were doing that, they have a small child and it would be difficult to keep ferrying him back and forth.
and if they are trying to earn money, they will be busy, they wil probably be traveling a lot within the American landmass and that will be enough for them with Archie to consider, without taking a long trip to the UK and spending a period of time there. SO I think the UK charities will become a back number and perhaps have to be dropped. I would say that apart from the problems of their commercial work, that was another reason why they queen said they could not be half and halfers.. She problaby foresaw that it would be too difficult to come to the UK for a couple fo months, do royal work here and then be back in the USA for engagemetns or speaking tours there.. thtat maybe it wuodl end by one of them having to drop of the royal stuff (most problably Meghan) and stay in Canada with Archie and it just wouldn't work..
And even with a small number of charities, I think its going to be diffuclt and in a few yaers, if they stay there the charities will have to be dropped.

[Hallo girl]

I am now beginning to wonder about the whole time frame scenario. One of the staff only joined last August, why would they employ somebody only to sack him in January. The former ambassador was only given the job a few weeks ago.
It does appear discussions to leave had been ongoing for some time so it would suggest they were employing people at the same time as they were discussing leaving. Why employ these people only to sack them.
Does this suggest the original plan was to to retain the staff here

[Denville]

they orginally intended to be half and half, so perhaps they were going to keep them on full time and they'd liaise with them when they were in the UK...

[Hallo girl]

Originally Posted by Denville

they orginally intended to be half and half, so perhaps they were going to keep them on full time and they'd liaise with them when they were in the UK...

IMO it demonstrates they had made decisions without really considering the impact, could this be why the talks had been going on in the background for some time, what they wanted was not going to work for the palace.

Also how can you pay somebody a salary for them only to be really employed for half a year. I wonder if anybody was given the opportunity to go with them.

[Betsypaige]

It just strikes me as odd that they’d originally planned to stay half the time in the UK when they thought they could be part-time Royals, but once it was decided that that couldn’t work, that plan went out the window. Why? There was no reason to leave the UK just because they weren’t going to be working Royals. It kind of looks like they were upset that they didn’t get what they wanted, so they split

[wyevale]

That's going to be a lot of money for somewhere they're only using for a few weeks a year, but I don't know what the alternative is

An Hotel ? There are many in London, more than used to accommodating guests requiring high levels of Security/privacy/comfort.
That would play FAR better with a British Public that feels deeply 'used' and 'led up the garden path', by this couple, altho' I doubt they factor that into their decision making now..

[muriel]

Originally Posted by Alison H

They've been told that they've got to pay commercial rent on Frogmore, now that they're no longer working royals. That's going to be a lot of money for somewhere they're only using for a few weeks a year, but I don't know what the alternative is - they can hardly put an ad in the local paper offering it for rent, much as I'm sure loads of people would love the idea! What a waste of a multi-million pound refurbishment.

It's not really practical to spend half the year in one country and half in another, as was originally being suggested. I know some people do, but that's usually retired people trying to avoid bad weather. You can't be running backwards and forwards with a toddler. Once Archie's old enough for school, their travel options are going to be very limited.

I have no doubt that any costs associated with FC will be funded by Charles, as is the lifestyle of H&M.

[Pranter]

They may not buy a house in Canada for awhile...they can rent indefinately. Might take a bit to find something that will work for their situation.


I'm thinking we may see them for the CW Services and Beatrice's wedding (along with a couple more things).

Charles funds the households of both his children..and really that is his business. Many parents around the world (regardless of income) help support their children/grandchildren.


LaRae