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Old 01-08-2020, 03:58 PM
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Regarding Frogmore Cottage. I assume Harry and Meghan are aware that non-senior royals have to pay rent to live on royal properties. They don't mention that when discussing Frogmore Cottage on their website.
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Old 01-08-2020, 03:59 PM
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News headlines dutch media site nu.nl
https://www.nu.nl/achterklap/6022546...ningshuis.html

hope google translate works
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Old 01-08-2020, 03:59 PM
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I'm terribly disappointed and shocked. I've followed Harry since he was 19. I believe that Meghan was never really accepted by other members of the royal family and overwhelmingly the Tabloid press has been vile to the couple, especially to her. These have been the primary reasons for this decision, I believe. We will see how this work out in practical terms however. I'm glad to see that they will not be abandoning their patronages, for now anyway.
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:00 PM
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I think Meghan is about to discover what Harry should have always known. The House of Windsor survives at any cost. This will blow up. And who knows who the Duke and Duchess of Sussex will be in a weeks time. You have every right to make the decisions you want but are powerless to control other people's reactions to it.
I absolutely fully agree with every single word of this.
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:02 PM
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They seem to think that they will continue carrying out oversees trips representing the Government. Have they not noticed that those trips are only taken by senior members of the family? When for example did Beatrice and Eugenie go on a royal tour in the last few years as 'other royals with financial independence'?
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:02 PM
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probably the most mature, sensible and coherent decision they've taken in a long time. i remain to see how this new structure will work (how exactly will they become financially independent whilst remaining royals and representing the queen? let's remember harry has no degree, and meghan is an ex actress. how will they divide their time between UK/NorthAm? who will pay for their security?) but it seems a step in the right direction if what they want is more privacy (as they claim).

on this: "BREAKING. BBC Understands that no other member of the Royal Family was consulted before Harry and Meghan issued their personal statement tonight, the Palace is understood to be ‘disappointed’." -- i honestly doubt that H&M didn't consult the queen before issuing the statement. it would have been a massive betrayal to the queen to do so and i sincerely hope they haven't. i trust they aren't that reckless.




let's also mention the new site - has anyone seen it?! worth checking it out as i somehow don't think the answers will remain there for too long. it has answers to rather controversial questions such as the ones below, with equally reivindicative answers.

How will The Duke and Duchess of Sussex handle media relations in the future?
What is The Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s stance on media in general?
How was the Official Residence of The Duke and Duchess of Sussex (Frogmore Cottage) funded?
Given their transition into members of the Royal Family with financial independence, will The Duke and Duchess of Sussex maintain their residence at Frogmore Cottage?

even the purpose of the site sounds reivindicative... "Sussexroyal.com was created as a source of factual information regarding the workstreams of The Duke and Duchess of Sussex. "
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:05 PM
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probably the most mature, sensible and coherent decision they've taken in a long time. i remain to see how this new structure will work (how exactly will they become financially independant whilst remaining royals and representing the queen? how will they divide their time between UK/NorthAm? who will pay for their security?) but it seems a step in the right direction if what they want is more privacy (as they claim).

on this: "BREAKING. BBC Understands that no other member of the Royal Family was consulted before Harry and Meghan issued their personal statement tonight, the Palace is understood to be ‘disappointed’." -- i honestly doubt that H&M didn't consult the queen before issuing the statement. it would have been a massive betrayal to the queen to do so and i sincerely hope they haven't. i trust they aren't that reckless.




let's also mention the new site - has anyone seen it?! worth checking it out as i somehow don't think the answers will remain there for too long. it has answers to rather controversial questions such as the ones below, with equally reivindicative answers.

How will The Duke and Duchess of Sussex handle media relations in the future?
What is The Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s stance on media in general?
How was the Official Residence of The Duke and Duchess of Sussex (Frogmore Cottage) funded?
Given their transition into members of the Royal Family with financial independence, will The Duke and Duchess of Sussex maintain their residence at Frogmore Cottage?

even the purpose of the site sounds reivindicative... "Sussexroyal.com was created as a source of factual information regarding the workstreams of The Duke and Duchess of Sussex. "

A lot of your questions have answers on their website.



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Old 01-08-2020, 04:08 PM
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I am thrilled for them. It is clear this has been longed planned and those 6 weeks away was a reflection period for them. Proud of them.
Same here, I am so happy for them. They are not leaving the Royal family. They are just stepping down as senior royals, but will continue their roles in the groups that the queen has assigned them too. Also, I think also, this also helps out Charles in his future role with sliming down the royal family. I also think

With this step I also think that Harry & Meghan can be more in control of what they want to do & Say, without having to check in with other members. I am very happy for them. . Ok now we can get on to blaming everything on Meghan( that TROLL, PM sure is)
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:10 PM
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Regarding Frogmore Cottage. I assume Harry and Meghan are aware that non-senior royals have to pay rent to live on royal properties. They don't mention that when discussing Frogmore Cottage on their website.


That’s a good one.
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:10 PM
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They have put up a Funding Page on their website which frankly makes things even more confusing.



https://sussexroyal.com/funding/

This part of the website intrigues me;



Does anyone know which senior member of the royal family they are referring to?

According to that funding page, they will retain their titles, they will continue to work on behalf of The Queen and during that work they will receive taxpayer funded security. No answer as to who will pay for their security when they undoubtedly fly to the USA and promote The Sussex Foundation on Oprah...


They really are, attempting badly, to have the best of both worlds. It's absolutely ridiculous, and embarrassing.

If they want "that" life, then give up this one. To keep their titles, the security, the benefits and still want the peace, quiet and the life that Vancouver Island offered them, it's just not going to happen. What was the point of handing over patronages, applying for British Citizenship, marrying a british royal, for you to turn around and want none of it? I've said this since they married, I know Henry has spoken of his lack of desire to be a part of the British Royal Family before Meghan so it's simple. Leave.

They can do so much for the British Royal Family, and they were doing so last year, I gave them some time to settle in and find their feet and by the end of the year they were both, as a couple getting there.

I would be absolutely fine with this announcement, if they'd given up their titles at the same time.
I have to completely agree with you.

I'm actually shocked about all of this. Your statement is on target Lumutqueen. Why did they take Frogmore Cottage, take on patronages, do royal tours and let the Queen give them titles (other than the one he already had). Such a slap in the face to the Queen, POW and DOC, in fact the whole working royal family. If they want financial independence, then they need to renounce their titles and start working. Such a sad day. I thought that Harry was such a great representative for the family, especially on tours, kicking back and have a bit of fun. (before Meghan). I don't see this ending well for him.
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A lot of your questions have answers on their website.



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I'm not sure HM and the POW agree with those answers or with how the Sussexes seem to think things will go....
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:10 PM
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I think Meghan is about to discover what Harry should have always known. The House of Windsor survives at any cost. This will blow up. And who knows who the Duke and Duchess of Sussex will be in a weeks time. You have every right to make the decisions you want but are powerless to control other people's reactions to it.
This. Being royal by default includes being noteworthy and/or famous. You cannot marry into an entity that is part family business, part a historic and enduring part of the British state, and part a glamourous magazine selling behemoth and think that you have significant leverage in decision making due to your celebrity status as the wife of a prince.
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:11 PM
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The BRF are “hurt” by these maverick actions:

https://twitter.com/jonnydymond/stat...066905091?s=21
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:11 PM
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I'm terribly disappointed and shocked. I've followed Harry since he was 19. I believe that Meghan was never really accepted by other members of the royal family .
Yes blame it on those bloody Windsors.
Already heard that song circa 1995.
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The BRF are “hurt” by these maverick actions:

https://twitter.com/jonnydymond/stat...066905091?s=21
So that is. ...
Don't speak about respect after that.
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:12 PM
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@MaxFosterCNN Mood not good in the palaces. ‘Dissapointed’ is the word I am hearing. Not even The Queen was consulted. Unprecedented probably.

I really don't think they expected them to "step away" and especially not like this.
That is so disrespectful. The Queen’s father probably died young in large part because of the stresses the Kingship put on him. The Queen herself sacrificed family time with Charles and Anne because duty came first - even though it must have killed her. Now Harry essentially skips out on his duties and responsibilities, leaving everyone else to pick up the slack, and he did so without consulting the Queen and obviously his father. It feels like he’s rejecting everything his family stands for, and that’s heartbreaking
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:14 PM
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Wecome home Meghan and Harry, yikes!
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:14 PM
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They seem to think that they will continue carrying out oversees trips representing the Government. Have they not noticed that those trips are only taken by senior members of the family? When for example did Beatrice and Eugenie go on a royal tour in the last few years as 'other royals with financial independence'?
That is exactly what I said. Either they live in a fantasy world or they think so highly of themselves that they imagine they can have the cake and eat it. I guess they also think they can go on with their own “ progressive” agenda on climate change, women empowerment or whatever without consulting BP, CH or indeed the British government and still pose as official representatives of the Crown while doing so .
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:15 PM
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Same here, I am so happy for them. They are not leaving the Royal family. They are just stepping down as senior royals, but will continue their roles in the groups that the queen has assigned them too. Also, I think also, this also helps out Charles in his future role with sliming down the royal family. I also think

With this step I also think that Harry & Meghan can be more in control of what they want to do & Say, without having to check in with other members. I am very happy for them. . Ok now we can get on to blaming everything on Meghan( that TROLL, PM sure is)
I don't blame Meghan. But. How? Any of it? Your royal or your not? Beatrice and Eugenie's charitable endeavours are very a la de famille.

I just want to know how? And who will care? They are supported because they are royal. They, neither or them, have kudos enough to support charities alone. They are the monarchy.
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:15 PM
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What a disappointment. See Edward the seventh. Diana would be shocked at her son’s decision to not support her other son, I assume as any mother. See Her quotes on preserving the monarchy for her son . Once the titles are stripped as well as the security, he will certainly have enough to live on from the legacies from his mother and grandmother. But it will never be enough, see Sarah, Ferguson. What a childish, selfish decision and it feel for his grandparents who have given all to duty
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:16 PM
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If true, and I stress IF, then it is if nothing else a wholly unprofessional way to act. Imagine announcing you are resigning from your job online without telling your boss first. Its just not how people behave never mind when that boss is your grandmother and you're working for a family firm. It certainly plays up to a narrative the media have tried to push of them being difficult and uncooperative with an eye on catching the headlines and that it letting themselves down.
Yes, this - and it’s also tragic for the family. I said it before, but it feels like he’s rejecting his family. I want to add that the Queen and Charles have welcomed Meghan into the fold, and Charles especially has a good relationship with her. You’d think just for that alone that Harry would have thought twice about this. I’m afraid that he’s acting a bit like a certain notorious royal (NOT in the most egregious ways, of course).
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