It’s Disney. No one should be surprised by this.
This is true.. but the fact that the 'blame' is laid at 'other feet' shows how low this couple have fallen in Public esteem in just FOUR days..
Last edited:
It’s Disney. No one should be surprised by this.
The captions are accurate. I remember the video when it first came out during the summer after the premier, same with her “they don’t make it easy” bs line.What’s interesting about that Disney CEO video floating around is that you can’t even really hear either. You have it captioned but that doesn’t mean that’s what was said. At least some of the media was smart enough to say “allegedly” cause I’m sure they don’t want Disney coming at them. This also was started by a random YouTuber. Will be interesting if they comment.
That said, I don’t see the issue with it. No different than when William said it was his idea to do the Mary Berry special and pitched it to her. Charity acts all around. Just seem some want to be offended to be offended. Networking is the name of the game. You think Earthshots or Invictus got its backing without it too?
Heather, I believe Harry has a close relationship with his father, but...it may not be the same, and that is sad. He’s going to miss the closeness he has with his papa, and down deep, his brother - or what he used to have with William. He’s going to miss out on the blessings of having a large family..,loving aunts, uncles, cousins. So will Archie....in large part because Meghan never had a real family life and doesn’t want him to have it
The captions are accurate. I remember the video when it first came out during the summer after the premier, same with her “they don’t make it easy” bs line.
There are enough copies without the captions where you can hear the words well enough.
The captions are accurate. I remember the video when it first came out during the summer after the premier, same with her “they don’t make it easy” bs line.
There are enough copies without the captions where you can hear the words well enough.
You can hear pretty much the same conversation as the captions stated on this video, if your not too distracted by Beyonce that is ?
For the most part I agree. I do wonder, though, if she doesn't want him to have it or if she just simply doesn't know how to function as a part of a real family and if it's just so foreign to her that she's not sure how to be a part of that. That's a common issue that's often seen in those with severely broken families, children of foster care, etc. Being a part of a family comes with lots of challenges including knowing when to compromise, accepting that it's not always going to be your way, understanding that sometimes traditions that seem odd to you are important to that family, etc.
I do think it's terribly unfortunate that it seems that William's children will really have no relationship with Archie and it saddens me that Harry will no longer be around to have the relationship he once had with the Cambridge children, particularly George, that we're given to understand was at one time very close. Uncles and aunts can be such an incredibly important part of a child's life and so vitally important as a support system. I remember the comment he made at one time about how George and Charlotte was wonderful and he could never wish them away...while I'm sure he still doesn't wish them away it really saddens me that he no longer has that relationship.
My dad just commented this evening that he found it so sad that the didn’t bring Archie over, even for the time Meghan was in the UK, to visit his elderly great grandparents.
I hadn’t really considered that, it would be been nice for them to see him.
Why is it so awful about Disney? If she is doing this for charitable reasons (Elephants without Borders etc) it's not a big deal.
Most everyone here is just assuming the worst about the whole situation. Why don't you all try waiting to see what happens and stop relying on tabloids. You know the same group of folks that lie and make things up and distort as they go? The same ones that have been sued previously and currently being sued.
NONE of these reporters and articles know what's really going on. They aren't there for these supposed conversations. It's well known that the inner circle of the BRF don't talk to the media. The media is laughing all the way to the bank.
I was shocked by this too. I wonder if the family ever gets to see Archie?
The big one I'm wondering about is the actual IG account of SussexRoyal. Wouldn't it stand to reason that if everything posted there about the changes H&M hope to enact were totally out of line, they'd be asked to remove it until things were settled?
In other words, Harry and Meghan would be "professional philanthropists" along with being part time working royals for HM, The Queen and the "Firm".
Regardless of what happens next, these past few days have done irreparable damage that is not to be forgotten any time soon.As for the IG account, as far as we know they've been asked to remove it or edit it and have refused. We just simply don't know. I think they've shown that they're not opposed to defying the wishes or orders of those higher up in the food chain.
As for being professional philanthropists and part-time royals...this is something I've wondered about, too. I don't really think it would work long term but more than that, I really think they've done irreparable damage and harm to their ability to be "successful" royals. They've really blown through a lot of goodwill these last few days and we all know that if royals don't have goodwill on their side they really can't be successful. In the same way that Andrew is no longer "welcome" to do walkabouts and engagements, I think we might see that no matter how much they might "want" to be part-time royals, it'll be hard to perform engagements with so much negativity and irritation direction at them from the public right now after the debacle of the last few days and their handling of it all.
Complete agreement about the irreparable damage. Things will simply never be the same in regard to this particular couple and their relationship with the monarchy, the family, and even the public. Some of their rabid super fans will still be on their side but it's becoming ever clearer that the public, even those who've tried hard to give them the benefit of the doubt, have soured on them.
Huh?!! “Meghan never had much family life”Heather, I believe Harry has a close relationship with his father, but...it may not be the same, and that is sad. He’s going to miss the closeness he has with his papa, and down deep, his brother - or what he used to have with William. He’s going to miss out on the blessings of having a large family..,loving aunts, uncles, cousins. So will Archie....in large part because Meghan never had a real family life and doesn’t want him to have it
For the most part I agree. I do wonder, though, if she doesn't want him to have it or if she just simply doesn't know how to function as a part of a real family and if it's just so foreign to her that she's not sure how to be a part of that. That's a common issue that's often seen in those with severely broken families, children of foster care, etc. Being a part of a family comes with lots of challenges including knowing when to compromise, accepting that it's not always going to be your way, understanding that sometimes traditions that seem odd to you are important to that family, etc.
I do think it's terribly unfortunate that it seems that William's children will really have no relationship with Archie and it saddens me that Harry will no longer be around to have the relationship he once had with the Cambridge children, particularly George, that we're given to understand was at one time very close. Uncles and aunts can be such an incredibly important part of a child's life and so vitally important as a support system. I remember the comment he made at one time about how George and Charlotte were wonderful and he could never wish them away...while I'm sure he still doesn't wish them away it really saddens me that he no longer has that relationship.
Interesting stuff from @valentinelow in The Times tomorrow. The paper reports that Meghan wants out but Harry is torn.
It will be things like that, not seeing Archie during his parents visit to UK, that will hurt HM and Charles the most and we don't know how many other things like that there have been behind the scenes. Just as we don't know how many little things have hurt H&M, given neither seem in a good place in their head atm I would bet a lot of things have been perceived as "slights".
I have a feeling they only get to see him when it provides a convenient photo op for a bit of positive PR. I don't know that, of course, but that's certainly the impression we're left with. Now, they do live in Windsor so maybe they see the Queen more often given proximity, but I have my doubts that Charles/Camilla, William/Kate, Philip, or any of the more extended family like Eugenie, Louise, Edward/Sophie, Peter/Autumn, Mike/Zara, etc. get to see if much, if at all.
Huh?!! “Meghan never had much family life”
We have seen countless pictures of her with hunts, uncles, cousins, grandmothers, and her siblings even, to know she had a fairly large and loving, even adoring, family life growing up (one many can only dream of!!)
By her family own words: she chose to distance and severe ties with all of them! (Likely because they did not fit a narrative and picture she was trying to paint. Her father, for all his flaws and mistakes in regards to the handling the media, was by her own words an incredibly loving and nurturing parent, who helped her in many ways, including financially.
He was tossed out when he no longer fit the narrative. I suspect her mother would not be immune to this appalling behavior should she put a foot wrong or cease to be beneficial to her image, in Meghan eyes.
Meghan has no one to blame but herself for not having a family anymore, she turned on her back on them all! (Some likely for good reason, others.. I am still trying to figure out what the maternal side of her family did wrong. Or her niece whom I suspect she never was truly close to as she made it appear to be on her social media).
EXPRESS: Queen to tell Harry true cost of freedom #TomorrowsPapersToday
Seeing kids for positive PR. Hasn’t that mostly been the cast of this family anyways? I mean not until recently we rarely saw the Cambridges kids. We have seen more of Archie in these 8 months than we saw of his cousins at this age.
I’m sure, like with all of them, he will be shown when appropriate.
They have been interviewed by the press, and seeing that she chose to treat them like strangers and cut any relationship with them (to the point they were not even invited to the wedding) why back in her 20’s for no obvious reason...Well honestly this is news to me as I’m only familiar with the Cold War between her, her father, etc...
They have been interviewed by the press, and seeing that she chose to treat them like strangers and cut any relationship with them (to the point they were not even invited to the wedding) why back in her 20’s for no obvious reason...
That always was an eye raising thing for me, I have family members I have not seen in over a decade, I do not have much relationship with my cousins (I will admit as much) as we live very different lives (they have become quite religious I am as secular as a Jew can be and have always been very career oriented). But they would most certainly be invited to my wedding (especially if I was marrying in a huge lavish 600 ppl ceremony- hack i’d pay for their flights and accommodations! to have them there. Hell i’d Invite my mother cousin who I have no seen since I was a young child).
Family is messy, and loving, can be hell to navigate but the reward is amazing - consider these words form a woman who spend 6 years of her life apart from her family, including during the holidays, because she lived in a different continent (by my own choosing).
You can be career oriented and still have time for family.
I have a lot to say about her father, and her treatment of him since she met Harry let alone the wedding.I don't know what went on between Meghan and her siblings, if they were close once and she cut them out, etc.. However, based on the DM article written by a former friend and business associate, Meghan does seem to be the kind of person to cut someone out of her life if she thinks she has reason to, even if that reason is unreasonable to us. She seems to be soft on the outside, but inside she's steel. That said, her father is extremely problematic...
I defended her for a long time, but I can't anymore. She seems to be putting pressure on Harry, she's run away to Canada and she's ok (bad on Harry as well) with letting their mouthpiece reporter insinuate that they might blackmail the BRF. I'm done with her - and I hope that if Harry doesn't want everything that she does, that he has the gumption to stand up to her.
I have no doubt for many reasons Charles does want Harry and Meghan to walk away from the table relatively happy- or at least satisfied. And I fully understand that- as a future monarch, father and grandfather- he wants a good relationship with them. It benefits no one if this ends in anger. And, yes, I could see William being tougher.
But Charles still has to take into account public opinion, the will of governments involved, and any other reality that he can’t control. As BP said- this is a complicated situation. It’s not just- how much is Charles willing to give.
On the other, I think they're still a family and clearly some of them are very comfortable with each other and that doesn't happen when you only see each other on rare occasions for a PR purpose. I'm thinking specifically of the Cambridge kids with Anne's grandchildren. It's quite clear that they spend time with each other away from the cameras and public events and that absolutely translates over to their comfort with each other in those public situations.
As for Archie, we may have seen lots of him in pictures provided by his parents but other than the pictures of him meeting the Queen and Prince Philip and his christening pictures featuring the immediate family sans children, we haven't ever seen him with any family member. .
I do not hate her, I just see her for what she truly is.That’s your family though. Meghan’s toxic relationship with herd has been hashed out many times. She barely seen most these people since she was a teenager. They all admit it. Her father is a different story. And the man even now still running to the press.
Families dynamics are tricky but what is healthy for once might not be for another.
Comments like this is just ridiculous. You hate Meghan, that’s clear, but saying she needs to lose custody of her son? Seriously? No one knows these people.
They have Savannah, Isla, Mia and Lena and of course Arthur. And more in the future no doubt. They will be fine. It's Archie I feel for. It is quite bizarre when you think about it. His,grandfather will be King and he may not know him.