The Duke and Duchess of Sussex to Step Back as Senior Royals: January 2020

[Somebody]

According to one (probably unreliable) source, Meghan is apparently still interested in British citizenship. In that case she better come back to Britain within a few weeks (given that they also spent some time abroad over the summer - and not counting their official visits) or the count will start again.

[tommy100]

To be honest I hope we can now have a few weeks without hearing so much about the Sussexes, I hope they go to Canada and as talks about the finer details will still be ongoing they keep a low profile.

I'd be amazed (but delighted) if W&H have truly made up if the feud is as bad as reported, or is this a way to cover up the fact its been rubbish all along? Maybe now H&M will be out the country all parties feel its easier to appear friendly with the benefit of thousands of miles between them meaning they are unlikely to have to see each other very often.

I just hope this is the first and last speech Harry makes on the issue and he's not going to trout out the same message each time keeping the story going. Decision made, deal done, speech made now zip it for a bit.

I can't see how Meghan can still get British citizenship if they are going to spend significant time in Canada and possibly USA. The numbers just don't add up.

[soapstar]

I’m honestly surprised that Harry and Meghan thought they could be half in and half out.

Originally Posted by ACO

Dan Wootton has a new “exclusives”

https://twitter.com/danwootton/statu...826323456?s=21

https://twitter.com/danwootton/statu...305013250?s=21

So the once Fab Four have called a truce? But not with Charles. Also HMQ is leaning on Andrew. He on a roll. So many sources chatty.

Harry is upset with Charles, but wants him to fund their lifestyle?

[Queen Claude]

Originally Posted by ACO

Dan Wootton has a new “exclusives”

https://twitter.com/danwootton/statu...826323456?s=21

https://twitter.com/danwootton/statu...305013250?s=21

So the once Fab Four have called a truce? But not with Charles. Also HMQ is leaning on Andrew. He on a roll. So many sources chatty.

The real question in all this is who is Dan Wooton's deep throat??!!

[akina21]

Originally Posted by ACO

Harry said he made the final decision. He confirmed they wanted to serve but without taking public money. He was denied. Likely was told you either full time royal or not one at all. He made his choice.

How nice of him to give up 5 % of his funding while wanting to keep everything else . He really doesn't get it , does he ?.

[acdc1]

Originally Posted by Somebody

According to one (probably unreliable) source, Meghan is apparently still interested in British citizenship. In that case she better come back to Britain within a few weeks (given that they also spent some time abroad over the summer - and not counting their official visits) or the count will start again.

Don’t you have to spend something like 9 months out of the year in the UK to qualify? From what it sounds like, they won’t be spending nearly that much time there, even though they claim that they will split their time between the UK and North America.

I’m very curious where they will end up settling. None of them is a Canadian citizen, but it sounds like that’s where they want to be. The US is always an option since both Meghan and Archie are US citizens.

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by Queen Claude

Yes he would know the history but that does not mean that Harry agreed with the practice and could have considered it an anachronism. I may be wrong about this but when I was rethinking my initial dismissal of Harry not being pleased about the four generations photo, the thought occurred to me that there were no generations pictures taken when Diana was alive. Again I am not 100% sure but I have done a couple google image searches, and other one from William's christening photo which of course Harry did not exist for, I have not come across a generations photos released during Diana's lifetime.

Not before Diana’s death but in a very quick Google search I found a formal photo from 2000 of the Queen Mother, the Queen, Charles & William and from 2003, a formal photo of the Queen, Charles and William.

If the generational photo of the Queen and her three next heirs was an issue for Harry, then he is an idiot.

[ACO]

Originally Posted by Queen Claude

The real question in all this is who is Dan Wooton's deep throat??!!

So many exclusives. Personally I don’t believe it. In all his many many MANY stories, only like one has been close. It was Canada. Others actually went as far as been retracted. So right now I think he just building off the Canada scoop with other nonsense.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by tommy100

To be honest I hope we can now have a few weeks without hearing so much about the Sussexes, I hope they go to Canada and as talks about the finer details will still be ongoing they keep a low profile.

I'd be amazed (but delighted) if W&H have truly made up if the feud is as bad as reported, or is this a way to cover up the fact its been rubbish all along? Maybe now H&M will be out the country all parties feel its easier to appear friendly with the benefit of thousands of miles between them meaning they are unlikely to have to see each other very often.

I just hope this is the first and last speech Harry makes on the issue and he's not going to trout out the same message each time keeping the story going. Decision made, deal done, speech made now zip it for a bit.

I can't see how Meghan can still get British citizenship if they are going to spend significant time in Canada and possibly USA. The numbers just don't add up.

The brothers came with a shared statement about a week ago; so that could be an indication that relations are indeed improving.

[Queen Claude]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

That is odd . It is exactly the opposite of what we were hearing, i.e. that Harry was distancing himself from William and getting closer to Charles .

That is not what we've been hearing in the past few weeks. Harry was seen as the one closer to Charles vis a vis William, but I never thought that adult Harry had a strong bond with Charles. There were reports that Meghan influenced Harry to be closer to Charles, which I can buy into. It seems like whatever closeness that they had has fallen by the wayside. As I mentioned previously, Harry was reportedly not happy that his father sided with the Queen when it came to getting his own court. It seems like the Queen can do no wrong in Harry's eyes, even when she does something that he does not like, but Charles, William and others do not enjoy the same privilege.

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by Pranter

Where has he said he intends to become a celebrity? He just said publically he intends to continue a life of service.


Why don't you just give him a chance to do something before you come down on him and make these sorts of baseless claims.



LaRae

That’s what some people said 11 days ago....

We’ll see- I hope I am happily surprised.

[Erin9]

Originally Posted by Alison H

It's nice to hear Harry talking tonight about how he loves the UK and acknowledges all the affection and support that he's had over the years.

It’s nice, but I wouldn’t have expected anything less honestly. I’m sure it was sincere. It was also good PR, which he needs.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by acdc1

Don’t you have to spend something like 9 months out of the year in the UK to qualify? From what it sounds like, they won’t be spending nearly that much time there, even though they claim that they will split their time between the UK and North America.

I’m very curious where they will end up settling. None of them is a Canadian citizen, but it sounds like that’s where they want to be. The US is always an option since both Meghan and Archie are US citizens.

Exactly, and not for one year but for 3 years in a row. So, unless their home base is the UK and they only spend a few months in North America (or anywhere else) it is not feasible.

I also wonder what will happen to Meghan's British immigration status if she no longer lives in the UK and is no longer a working member of the royal family. On what basis would she be allowed to stay in the UK (is being married to a Brit sufficient?) and if so, under which conditions.

[ACO]

Originally Posted by Erin9

It’s nice, but I wouldn’t have expected anything less honestly. I’m sure it was sincere. It was also good PR, which he needs.

He was speaking to his Sentebale family. I’m not surprised they were who he opened up too. He also very smart knowing every press will it. This with Sentebale attached. He was able to tell his POV while giving a lot of attention to a cause he loves. Clever.

[Betsypaige]

Originally Posted by Queen Claude

That is not what we've been hearing in the past few weeks. Harry was seen as the one closer to Charles vis a vis William, but I never thought that adult Harry had a strong bond with Charles. There were reports that Meghan influenced Harry to be closer to Charles, which I can buy into. It seems like whatever closeness that they had has fallen by the wayside. As I mentioned previously, Harry was reportedly not happy that his father sided with the Queen when it came to getting his own court. It seems like the Queen can do no wrong in Harry's eyes, even when she does something that he does not like, but Charles, William and others do not enjoy the same privilege.

Exactly. Here is Camilla Tominey's Spectator article..

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2020/01/...-and-his-sons/

I DO disagree that Harry and Charles weren't close, though - with help, apparently from Meghan. It appears that Charles' relationship with his sons goes through ups and downs - and yes, believe that they don't always respect him. Anyway, I think once he walked Meghan down the aisle, things changed - we've heard him refer to "pa" more than once.

The problem does apparently stem from that "Windsor court" issue......why there is such a lack of trust with Charles and Camilla, I don't know. It's been reported that Harry has felt pushed out. All I know is that it's really incredibly sad. I don't like seeing these up and downs - I wish that Charles and his boys could be close. I HOPE that Charles and Harry somehow manage to heal their rift.

Harry is upset with Charles, but wants him to fund their lifestyle?

That bothers me also.

[Pranter]

Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile

That’s what some people said 11 days ago....

We’ll see- I hope I am happily surprised.

Even if the worst happens and we see him hawking milk what difference will it make? They have given up the government funds, they aren't going to use their HRH. Can't have it both ways, they weren't allowed to do a hybrid type of structure...so if you cut them loose then can't say too much about what they do to stay funded.


LaRae

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by soapstar

I’m honestly surprised that Harry and Meghan thought they could be half in and half out.




Harry is upset with Charles, but wants him to fund their lifestyle?

Good point-He's angry with his father for saying no to what they wanted, like a rival court, but he needs dad’s money to live in the style to which he is accustomed.

[Betsypaige]

Oh, and if it's "now or never" for Harry and William because Harry is moving away, how is it "now or never" for he and his father?

[Queen Claude]

Originally Posted by ACO

So many exclusives. Personally I don’t believe it. In all his many many MANY stories, only like one has been close. It was Canada. Others actually went as far as been retracted. So right now I think he just building off the Canada scoop with other nonsense.

I remember him having to retract one of his stories (was it the car park story?), but I think that his overall hit ratio is pretty decent. When he broke the story about the tiara which got the ball rolling on the negative Meghan stories, he was over-the-top with his negative view of Meghan and my take away is that you have to read his stuff with a critical eye, but I for one think that he has good sources. Bear in mind that a top-notch source may feed false information in order to further their own agenda.

[Queen Claude]

Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile

Not before Diana’s death but in a very quick Google search I found a formal photo from 2000 of the Queen Mother, the Queen, Charles & William and from 2003, a formal photo of the Queen, Charles and William.

If the generational photo of the Queen and her three next heirs was an issue for Harry, then he is an idiot.

Yep I came across the same photos in my Google search. My original comment was that, other than William's christening photos, that no generational photos were released in Diana's lifetime, and apparently your search seems to confirm my search.