The Duke and Duchess of Sussex to Step Back as Senior Royals: January 2020

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by caethi

They are not supported financially. .

Debatable, depending on how you look at Prince Charles paying for them.

[Erin9]

Originally Posted by DuchessMia

I don’t see this is a loss for the Sussexes. Neither seem concerned about status. They get to keep their home. They get to make their own money and live in NA when not visiting the U.K.

This is no where close to the deal they wanted. Per their own website. It’s a loss. And no doubt a financial one. They weren’t volunteering to pay for what they’re now paying for.

They wanted to be out of the U.K. quite a bit of the time. They wanted financial freedom. They got it.

But- really no one was going to stop them from either of those things. HM was not going to force them to live in the UK or keep them from earning money if they wanted to. Which is exactly why the initial statement from HM said those things. She and family was obviously disappointed in their decision, but those weren’t the issues that needed deciding.

The issue was HOW this would work.

I still can’t believe the words “collaborating” with the Queen were on their website.

[ACO]

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen

Unless Henry and Meghan request it, I don't think they will ever lose their HRH. The Queen and Charles just simply wouldn't do it. I think this period until next year is to see if they actually like the situation they've landed themselves in. If they don't, they reverse the clock.

You might be right. It is clearly a test run of sorts. They letting them do what they want but leaving the door open. I guess we shall see how it all plays out.

[poppy7]

Originally Posted by Betsypaige

So Harry and Meghan invest in whatever commercial ventures they like......even if they damage the monarchy, which I'm sure they will. I guess the Queen is willing to take the chance...

No read the statement. Thry can't do that. Part of being in line with the royal family is to not promote or take freebies from any company to promote them.

[ACO]

I also found it interesting she acknowledged the scrutiny. Didn't expect that.

[Helen.CH]

Originally Posted by ACO

I don't think so either. It seems it came down to them wanting to live outside the UK and explore work outside the royal bubble or be senior royals.

They made their choice. Though I am surprised by the whole "revisit in a year" and they are still doing engagements (even if minimum) for the next weeks.

Oh well. It is finally done. I would imagine this time next year they will officially remove the HRH would be my guess.

Please read the official ial Statement, says nothing about being revisited....

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile

They actually wrote “Their Royal Highnesses”?
Someone didn’t read the Queen’s entire statement!

I imagine their foundation and website will be getting renamed.

This "new model", no use of HRHs, doesn't take effect until Spring 2020 when the period of transition is over.

[Alison H]

It's still not clear how they can live in Canada, or anywhere else, without the appropriate residency status.

[duchessrachel]

Originally Posted by poppy7

Interesting. Basically their website is garbage. So they basically got nothing they wanted. Maybe security. And a hybrid went to being nothing at all. No collaboration at all. A lot of these charities won't want them anymore either as the whole point of having a royal patron is the money and publicity that go with it. Which after the I detest has died down will be nothing at all. The Invistus Games will the be one who will want to keep him.

I read that would keep their personal patronages. What are those? Will Meghan keep the theater patronage?

[suztav]

Originally Posted by Helen.CH

Please read the official ial Statement, says nothing about being revisited....

Actually I just heard Keir Simmons in NBC, who was in the Conference Call with Buckjngham Palace, definitely say that it would be revisited in one year.

[Duke of Marmalade]

You want it, you get it. They had to be consequent, otherwise it would have damaged the monarchy even more. But we will see how this works out in mon the to come. This is only the beginning.

[poppy7]

Originally Posted by duchessrachel

I read that would keep their personal patronages. What are those? Will Meghan keep the theater patronage?

It said that. But many won't want them now. Let's be honest.

[Fem]

Originally Posted by duchessrachel

I read that would keep their personal patronages. What are those? Will Meghan keep the theater patronage?

Do you really think they will want her? I mean, it is a bad PR, especially now, but they went from (having as a patron) Her Majesty the Queen to Meghan, Duchess of Sussex. I think there might be quite a few patronages that will drop Harry and Meghan. There is a certain... status, let's say, to the royal part and they no longer can use that.

Also is anyone else confused by the (reported) future titles: Henry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex? It goes against so many rules

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by duchessrachel

I read that would keep their personal patronages. What are those? Will Meghan keep the theater patronage?

So for Henry it's quite a long list. For Meghan it's the following:

-Association of Commonwealth Universities, Patron
-Mayhew, Patron
-The National Theatre, Royal Patron
-The Queen's Commonwealth Trust, Vice President
-Sussex Royal - The Foundation of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, Founder Patron
-Smart Works, Royal Patron

[Erin9]

Originally Posted by Betsypaige

I know it shouldn't feel that way since Harry can still visit, but it feels like father/son/brother won't see each other very often - that breaks my heart.

Probably not. But that was pretty clear imo from the moment they made the announcement. It seemed clear to me most of their time would be in North America regardless. They moved their dogs there. Archie stayed there. Meghan sure didn’t seem to have much desire to be in the U.K.

William and Harry may not want to see much of each other frankly .

[Betsypaige]

Originally Posted by poppy7

No read the statement. Thry can't do that. Part of being in line with the royal family is to not promote or take freebies from any company to promote them.

There are other ways to damage the monarchy than taking handouts....I guess it depends on what ventures they choose.

I'm very glad they won't be using HRH and I'm glad Harry had to give up his military titles. I hope they are happy wherever they settle, but their happiness came at great personal cost to their family. I hope that Harry and William will settle their differences, I hope that father and sons will have time together before they are separated permanently (of course they'll see each other, but its' NOT the same)......I don't mean in official engagements, I mean private time.

[Fem]

Originally Posted by poppy7

No read the statement. Thry can't do that. Part of being in line with the royal family is to not promote or take freebies from any company to promote them.

Actually, there's absolutely nothing in the statement about that. But I wouldn't be surprised if it was mentioned to them privately during these meetings.

[akina21]

Originally Posted by Alison H

It's still not clear how they can live in Canada, or anywhere else, without the appropriate residency status.

They are probably going to move to the USA soon . Meghan and Archie are citizens and Harry is her husband .

[poppy7]

So what does this mean for Eugenie and Beatrice? I can see them quietly taking up more duties. And I can see them going all out for her wedding now. Big PR push. Course the father is an issue.

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by Fem

Also is anyone else confused by the (reported) future titles: Henry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex? It goes against so many rules

Yes and No, I thought that and have asked for clarification from RRs. However The Duke of Windsor was officially The Duke of Windsor, but known as Edward, Duke of Windsor.